"Cinematic Device" In The Alien Franchise"

Good Morning everyone, my latest "Rant"...Enjoy.

Nobody wants to read my rant...that might make me write a whole new one...lol...

please semone tell me you agree or disagree lmfao

bunch of dead beats...lol...I suck...

I still think you're cool :)

I agree Sparty. Sound makes a huge difference. Watch Jurassic Park with the surround system maxxed out. When the T-Rex breaks out of the fence, you'll swear he's in the kitchen! LOL Sound editing varies greatly. Even the Prometheus trailer is SO different from one version (English, Spanish, Russian, whatever) to another. like it's for different movies... One of the biggest reasons I like the theater experience is the sound. With 3D being part of the medium now, I hope to have my senses dazzled- even if the movie is lacking. How else could I have made it through Transformers 3????

I'll be there for ya! I totally agree with you. However you failed to mention the common thread of all of the movies. A creature so disturbing it created a franchise. And in 1978 caused this 9 year old (at the time) to have trouble going to sleep!!!

Hey man sorry I'm late. Parker breaking wind - the sound mix in the beginning of that scene has always seemed "off" to me, and I never heard a fart before. I've got a pretty good surround sound system, sad thing is my wife and kids aren't too hip on the alien series, Sci-fi, or anyting too violent so I'm pretty much relegated to sitting in my office watching what I like to watch with headphones on. As far as the Cinematic Devices in all the Alien films, heres what I take away from them in terms of feelings.. Alien: Claustrophobia Aliens: Panic Alien 3: Isolation Alien Resurrection: That's just gross man... My guess for Prometheus: Epic - big spaces and big ideas But the art direction in Alien can never be topped, it was as close to perfect as you could get at that time, and it still holds up today. Sane people just don't come up with stuff like that.

Tx you guys, I am feeing the love again...hahahahahaha.....I'm nuthin' but a stinking good for nothin' Prometheus Junkie !!! & I need my Fix !!!

i watched it and didnt hear a fart noise on it what u on mate

This always amazes me when people claim it isn't there because it 100% POSITIVELY WITHOUT ANY DOUBT IS CLEARLY WHAT HE DOES, HE SAYS THE COFFEE "IS THE ONLY THING GOOD ON THIS SHIP" AS HE LEANS OVER AND DOES A VERY PRONOUNCED "ONE CHEEK SNEAK' {you can visually see him leaning over to do it without any sound turned on also}AND UNTIL EVERYONE GETS THIS I AM GOING TO KEEP RAMING IT DOWN PEOPLES THROATS...IN A NICE WAY..PLEASE EXCUSE MY CAPS i AM NOT SWEARING...DAMN THING HAS A MIND OF IT'S OWN...ITS NOT A JOKE I DID NOT MAKE IT UP IT IS 100% CLEARLY WHAT HE DOES, AND LOL, RIDLEY DELIBERATLY LEFT IT IN THE FILM. YOU PEOPLE NEED TO GET IT BECAUSE IT IS FACT ! Seriously I think it is the ALL TIME SINGLE MOST MISUNDERSTOOD MOMENT IN THE ENTIRE ALIEN FRANCHISE!!!

I hope the space jockey race communicates in fart noises.

HAHAHAHA..fart noises...awesome! Their names are Bart and Tart from Auroa, ill....

har har har...you need a Big Red & Blue Suit & Cape With a Giant "D" on the front it for Superman of "DENIAL" lmfao !!!

How did this thread spin into the Fart debate? LOL Thought we were talking Cinematic Device?? Although if were are on the Fart subject, I didn't hear it. But then again I did not hear each crew member crap their pants as they encountered the Alien, but I am betting they did! HAHA

hehehehe its my fault and something i cannot for the life of me ever let go of or slide if you will because it is FACT and I want all those that havent relaized this for themselves the same way I did to marvel in the fact that Ridley Scott DELIBERATELY left this little gem in his film. EDIT: I also think the post I made is pretty good if you do not mind my sayng so myself and would welcome anybodys thoughts on it.

Ah, the phantom Parker fart! A most elusive bit of flatulence.

very well put.

@Spartacus - I am a self-described audiophile who got his start in audio. I started bootlegging Rolling Stones concerts in the 90s, moved on to sound for band demos, then my own studio, so forth. I collect vinyl hence my screenname which I use all over the place. You are DEAD ON about surround sound. I have a 37" LED LCD tv and 5.1 that is properly calibrated to the room. It is a JOY to have friends over and watch a good movie. Usually we get remarks about it, but the funny thing is that some nice Polk or Yamahas, a Denon amp and a solid tv can deliver such a great cinematic experience that I hardly feel the need to go to the theater. Additionally, I love mixing in 5.1... It is very rare that a client actually needs it, but its a blast as long as they don't want some unrealistic 'in the middle of the band' type mix. It has to be direction. Another point, it is fantastic for gaming. Playing Skyrim or Mass Effect is just a plain joy in 5.1. Gorgeous scores, you hear enemies infront/behind/sides/way off in the distance, so forth.. Fully immersive. Alien, IMHO, does not have the best sound quality from a technical standpoint, but it still has a certain charm about it. I love the dynamic range. When Ripley and Parker are fighting the range from whisper to beligerent is massive. Most movies simply cripple the loudness (Michael Bay) to the point that it no longer matters whether anyone is shouting, firing a weapon or farting, every single sound is blazingly loud. Even worse with music these days. I dig your rant but I do have to disagree with you on something... Ressurection sucks. I re-watched the film about a month ago, and I hate it now more than ever. I remember seeing it in the theater and thinking 'this isn't furthering the film, and the hybrid should have been designed by Giger'. The smiling aliens in the swimming scene SUCK. Then again... the directing style is so terrible that it overshadows good FX. So I recant... the FX are overall solid, but the way they are used destroys anything inherently 'good' about them.

If an Alien farts in space, do the other Aliens laugh at him.

[quote]flacnvinyl Member Send PM › Posted Mar-16-2012 8:46 PM | Moderate @Spartacus - I am a self-described audiophile who got his start in audio. I started bootlegging Rolling Stones concerts in the 90s, moved on to sound for band demos, then my own studio, so forth. I collect vinyl hence my screenname which I use all over the place. You are DEAD ON about surround sound. I have a 37" LED LCD tv and 5.1 that is properly calibrated to the room. It is a JOY to have friends over and watch a good movie. Usually we get remarks about it, but the funny thing is that some nice Polk or Yamahas, a Denon amp and a solid tv can deliver such a great cinematic experience that I hardly feel the need to go to the theater. Additionally, I love mixing in 5.1... It is very rare that a client actually needs it, but its a blast as long as they don't want some unrealistic 'in the middle of the band' type mix. It has to be direction. Another point, it is fantastic for gaming. Playing Skyrim or Mass Effect is just a plain joy in 5.1. Gorgeous scores, you hear enemies infront/behind/sides/way off in the distance, so forth.. Fully immersive. Alien, IMHO, does not have the best sound quality from a technical standpoint, but it still has a certain charm about it. I love the dynamic range. When Ripley and Parker are fighting the range from whisper to beligerent is massive. Most movies simply cripple the loudness (Michael Bay) to the point that it no longer matters whether anyone is shouting, firing a weapon or farting, every single sound is blazingly loud. Even worse with music these days. I dig your rant but I do have to disagree with you on something... Ressurection sucks. I re-watched the film about a month ago, and I hate it now more than ever. I remember seeing it in the theater and thinking 'this isn't furthering the film, and the hybrid should have been designed by Giger'. The smiling aliens in the swimming scene SUCK. Then again... the directing style is so terrible that it overshadows good FX. So I recant... the FX are overall solid, but the way they are used destroys anything inherently 'good' about them.[/quote] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Sorry I missed this post due to the situation I mentioned yesterday but in response I LOVE what you wrote here "Flac". I understand your position on "REZ" but I will always maintain that there were some tings in it we all loved, albeit few and far between, like "The Betty", "Solid Laser Poured Cube Scotch", and "guns up your sleeves"...but never the less there were some good things in it we liked even though overall it's not such a reputable film and let's face it, it's got some really bad moments in it. I defend it though because never the less it was a "Whopping Financial Success" {Made initial profit of 80 mill I believe}and actually contributed to all us being here today. I absolutely Hated that Creature though and so I do agree with a lot of the venom for it. Sound can make such a Huge Difference in how film is perceived and if you do not believe that just look at the proof I provided everyone about this...and how it was perceived...more than 3/4's of THIS COMMUNITY STILL DOES NOT even REALIZE THAT PARKER 100% farts loudly and deliberately while drinking his coffee and asking Dallas if he minds if he finishes it...3/4's of the people here man, STILL HAVEN;T NOTICED IT...AND RIDLEY 100% OBVIOUSLY LEFT THAT IN THE FILM DELIBERATELY...IT'S SO VERY FRUSTRATING TO ME, AND YET SO FRIKKIN' HYSTERICAL !

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