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Hi all Been thinking about the film title "Prometheus" and the obvious conection with Greek mythology....Prometheous stole from the Gods and was punished by having his liver eaten by an eagle. He was then healed so that it could be eaten again and again and again. What if the Space Jockey is being used to host and give birth to the chest bursters and then healed to do it again and again? What if the humans take technology from the 'Gods' and are then punished / killed and healed ?

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I would not say that David is in that Chair, whats odd is the Bald Person walking to the Chair has a Suit that looks very Organic and nothing like the Crews, it apears that a being with simular/same suit terrifies Shaw in one scene as she is on the floor. At the begining of the Trailer their is a Pale Bald Being, who looks very Human Looking, i think this is the same being that we see in other scenes and the Space Jockey.

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with regards to the whole Gods idea, i think this movie is hinting at the whole Ancient Astronaught Idea of Creation. That is that these are not Gods as per say, but a Advanced Space Traveling Race of Giant Humans. i.e Titans, Anunaki, Nephlim. The Movie shows that Star Chart apeared in many Ancient Civiliations, inc Egyption, Summarian etc. The Movie shows a Summerian Tablet and Egyptian one. If you look at the actual Summarian and Egyptian Tablets that depict the Gods giving Man some Technology you will notice that these Gods look just like Man only about double the height say 10-12ft. Now looking at that, and then what Prometheus actually is (Titan God who created Man and Gave us our First peice of Technology) you can see somewhat how the Movies Story ties in with those ideas. Hence they went to seek our Creation/Begining tag line.

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Hey CanadaPhil, It's funny how one can post from thread to thread, and hearing other's theories completely changes our original theories. You are right, we HAVE harnessed the power to create beings artificially. Perhaps we didn't steal their secret, but in our evolution we figured part of it out, creating life, even if it's artificial. We obviously at this point haven't figured out how to do it on a molecular level. According to the trailer though, humans have had interactions with these beings before because of the wall paintings depicting giant beings pointing to the stars. So, if the jockeys did create us, I don't think it was by accident. But perhaps we weren't meant to get that far. When we arrive, they probably ARE shocked. They know that they will be punished for creating us, and we in turn will be punished. And, if the Xenos are the fail safe, maybe they think that they can somehow unleash them on humanity, destroy their human creation to get back in their Gods favor?
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On to the whole Punishment.... Maybe the Space Jockey/s where in some kind of hibernation, and woken by the Promethues Crew? I dont by that. I also dont buy the Space Jockeys wishing to Destroy us because thats what their plans was... unless they are as above hibernating? I would assume that the Crew find by using the clues from Ancient Star Maps, a World that the Space Jockeys either inhabit or colonized or maybe use as a Laboratory or Warehouse. They enter and they then start to find and mess about with stuff that the Space Jockeys do not want Mankind to know, the Organisms in those Pods could be a Bio Weapon or something that can be used to create/manipulate life. This is knowledge and Technology the Space Jockeys can not allow to get into our hands, or the Space Jockeys Little Secret they dont want man kind to know about. They could destroy Prometheus, but then Earth would know already about the clues that led Prometheus Mission, For Example we could fail with a Probe to say the Moon Europa, that does not meen we would never send another out in future. So the Jockeys know that Mankind could potentially send more missions to their System and so when the cats out of the bag its time to wipe out and start again. So say simular to say if we was talking about a Real God or Aliens looking at Mankind after we made Nukes and thinking simular to (oh the childs found the box of matches) that Humans should be wipped out as they have a powerfull Weapon they should never have had.

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I think that the SJ in the image for this forum isnt an SJ at all i think is one of the crew after a change. The body seems too small in relation to the head compared to the suits in the corridor ( the one with Shaw in the foreground ) and also there are almost no correlation's to the original mummified one in Alien, the arms seem way too short. The shoulder seems a little like the human space suits and also the clip of the mutated crew member jumping off the ATV onto another of the crew shows him in an all brown coloured suit....at least it looks a lot more brown than blue.
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I actually seeing the whole thing diffently now. I feel the Jockey's are literally SLAVES and almost powerless against these ruthless "blue meanie" humanoid Gods. And I dont think the SJ's are long dead as some have said or are in stasis. It looks like they are still alive and well on the God World (not sure what to call it) and still doing their bidding. The decapitated one (executed??) looks like a VERY fresh kill by something obviously able to kick its ass without too much effort... But NOT an Alien. Im also thinking that maybe our particular human form is NOT MEANT to be on any other world but the God World? and that something was stolen by the Jockey's from the "Blue Meanies" and deposited on Earth to evolve over the course of what.. I guess 50,000 ish years? (Not sure about that... When does everyone think that "man" with the pale skin & blue arm veins shown in the trailer was first deposited on Earth??) I think "early man" as our science knows us goes back 100,000 years, but the pale guy certainly doesn't look like "early man" as we believe he was? But what exactly was the purpose in the SJ doing this as obviously they would have had to bide their time for thousands of milenia wouldnt they?? Are we meant to have been a means to eventually HELP the SJ to free themselves from the "Blue Meanies"?? with the star map guiding us to their real location once we advanced ourselves enough?? LOLZ.. anyway, but yeah, the imminent arrival of the Prometheus (Im assuming that the ENGINEERS were obviously advanced enough to scan and see them coming some time before the actual touch down) sets off an orgy of slaughter and butchering of the SJ's by the ENGINEERS... ie: the tag line about "Finding some very uncivilized behavior". About the "Ancient Astronaut" idea... Wow, a story like this must be like PORNOGRAPHY to that WEIRDO HAIR Guy on History Channel's "Ancient Aliens". Hahaha. Man that weirdo hair guy frightens me!!
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A movie like this must seem like hardcore pornography to that "WEIRDO HAIRDO" Guy on History Channel's "Ancient Aliens" Hey, wait a minute... While the hell is Ancient Aliens on the HISTORY CHANNEL?? Good grief.
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I'm not even going to attempt to guess at the whole story line of the Space Jockeys. Dan O'Bannon was the only guy that could give us some insight to them, and that's [i]if[/i] he had ever thought about it to begin with! I'll let Ridley run with it... Anything else is just fans letting their imaginations get away from themselves, which could ultimately lead to major disappointment in the story that's about to be presented to them. I'm walking into that theater with a clean slate and letting Mr. Scott take me for a ride in a universe I sincerely love!
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Genesis 6:4 - There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown. John 3:16 - For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. The Olympians are the secret inner circle of Freemasonry who are building a new hybrid man by combining ancient Alien(Annunaki and Nephilim) DNA with Human DNA. They are the secret society within the false secret society of Freemasonry which knows not of the inner circle yet unknowingly protects and shields it. The secret is the process of fully activating the DNA of humans with the DNA of the ancient aliens described in Genesis 6:4 to become mighty immortal men of renown. The real Masonic craft is genetic engineering and knowledge of the ancient aliens who dominated the Earth in those days. Their resurrection through man is coming and they will ally themselves with an alien species to dominate and exploit the world to the end.
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Y'know i was watching the trailer earlier the space jockey...rises up in his chair....and what appears to be a set of ribs close around him.... Now say for instance for whatever reason it was actually one of our mutated crew that was actually in that chair.....then that leaves the enigma of....how did they appear that they were exploded outwards..in Alien...and how come (and im supprised no one has asked this question yet?) There was corrossion from acid i.e alien blood.... It can't be that a chestbuster escaped, because how do you explain the blood/acid corrosion? Im thinking we have the creature the ancestor of the alien.....and the jockey in the chair.... shoots a gun of some kind from what appears to be the ribs ...hit the aliens grandaddy..and melts a big hole in the floor obviously the jocvkey is stuck their then......what do you think?
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Interesting.
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Why would a technologically advanced race bother erecting a huge representation of a human face abord their spacecraft? That seems more like the act of an individual with an unhealthy obsession (grudge?) than part of any rational plan. Assuming the space jockey isn't just sneaking around unnoticed for the first half of the movie, it must have long dormant periods or something like that. Something happened on Earth that it isn't happy about, but it's only active for short periods separated by ages of inactivity. It's had to resort to laying a trap using the bio/genetic engineering skills in evidence in the construction of the ship itself. But it hasn't had any human specimens to work with, so the biological weapon it came up with is iterative - it doesn't achieve its most destructive form until after it encounters and adapts to its host.
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Slowboat...I think it's more likely the monolithic head is of our Blue guy's race...i.e...the SpaceJockies...... [img]http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l546/aliennaire/Prometheus/blue_guy1.jpg[/img] [img]http://www1.picturepush.com/photo/a/7324079/img/prometheus/baldman.png[/img] [img]http://www.cinemablend.com/images/news/28139/5_High_Res_Images_From_Ridley_Scott_Prometheus_What_Up_With_The_Giant_Head_1322757945.jpg[/img] See the resemblance....?
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Don't mind me while I double up this post... As a weapon of revenge, the xenomorph is too virulent. Look at the close calls the various crews have had throughout the franchise - and that's with some of them actively trying to return it to Earth. Clearly, a human crew can't be relied upon to carry the xenomorph back to their home planet. The Space Jockey waits to be found, either to obtain specimens, or to learn Earth's location, or both... but it must ultimately make the delivery itself.
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Good call, craigamore. Now you've got me wondering why such a scientifically-savvy franchise would incorporate a fully humanoid non-human.
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I'm reserving my judgement for after I see it....there's no way to qualify this idea's quality or the film's for that matter until I see it.
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No it couldn't be ..it must be that the seeding of the human race was meant for later use by the Xenoforms ,mto be harnessed at alter time in the future to be crossbred, but the Xenophorms discovered by the SJ must have threatened that from happening , as it was a life form created by the SJ for some thre purpose that evolved into something unforeseen on that planet , something unforeseen and frightening, perhaps on the planet inhabited by the Xenophorms some meteor or other disaster altered the species that became dominantnp on that planet and when the SJ came back to the planet to check on the seeding it discovered something completely different than what it intended when it seeded various different planets ... So the Xenophorms that unfortunately by some freak ecological or galactic disaster ( meteor, radiation, causing its evolytion asndominant species) became the dominant species not only need a host but also want to establish their dominance on all planets and wipe out the seeding of humanoid life forms establshed by the Space Jockey ~~~ Space Jockey probably looking to wipe out their "mistake" -- the Xenoforms but was attacked and destroyed , hence the distress warning message from the first Alien film to stay away....it's a story of evolution "what if" competing with a more powerful intelligent life form
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[size=100][/size] All of you are forgetting a crucial part of the Prometheus mythology Prometheus was a Titan, one of the precursors of the Olympians. Prometheus took pity on the primitive humans and stole "Fire" from the Olympians and gave it to the humans. As a result, he was punished. Trailer says that same writing was found in ancient ruins around the world. This most likely implies that whatever extraterrestrial came to Earth, gave us "fire"; technology, intelligence, wisdom, logic etc. However, as a result of this, something happened to the extraterrestrial "Prometheus"s and led to their downfall.
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I'm now thinking, based on the flying saucer and veiny guy in the trailer, that there's no such thing as the Space Jockey "race" - just one human who in ancient times was abducted by or infiltrated an alien ship and acquired/was infected with advanced biotechnology. He became godlike in his intelligence and physical prowess, grew the derelict spaceship, and single-handedly built all of human civilization, ruling over us as something more than human but not quite a god. The xenomorph is either a well-intentioned project to bring the rest of us to his level gone horribly wrong, or his attempt to transform humanity into an unstoppable invasion force with which to dominate the galaxy. Either way, when the alien race dropped in to check on Earth centuries later, they were not super pumped about his actions, and imprisoned him on the planet he chose as a base of operations/staging area for invasion. Ancient humans were never aware of his diabolical plans for them, and thought he was just a really cool guy, a Titan, who brought them civilization and technology. They thought it was a great injustice that the gods stepped in to punish him, and they left lots of positive reviews on cave walls and temples, not to mention starting the oral history of the Prometheus myth.
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My take on it is that our civilisation has finally reached a level that is too advanced for the Space Jockey's liking. We have become too advanced, and after thousands of years are now a direct threat to their God-like status and their "#1 position" in the universe. The cave paintings were a litmus test for us - once our civilisation could intepret them and have the ability to visit, that was the 'trigger point' to put in place its eradication program for us. Our ability to terraform, to produce artificial life, to travel/navigate through space - as Weyland said "we are the Gods now" - and the SJ's don't like that one bit. So following Prometheus' arrival and nosing around, the SJ's make a bee-line for Earth with a bioweapon cache (virus, mutagens, xenomorphs etc) specifically tailored to wipe us out, whilst the SJ's clean up later and pick the carcass of what is left of our civilisation (biodiversity, natural resources, infrastructure etc.) Scott has hinted that he has a rough script/storyboard for Part II, so this film doesn't necessarily have to explain anything about the ship on LV-426. This is not an Alien prequel, it simply provides the setting for how the SJ's and their penchant for bioweaponry fits in.
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'A king has is Kingdom, and then he dies' - the king =Peter Weyland /the kingdom = Weyland Corp. The SJs could just be a race of Genetic Engineers. They travel the galaxy collecting DNA samples from several alien races they come in contact with and catalloging them. When the Prometheus crew goes inside the 'temple' they find many chambers, each containing several ampules on the floor. Each chamber has a representation of the alien race it belongs to (a human face carved in stone represents the human race and so on) and the ampules probably work as cryogenic storage units used to preserve the DNA samples retrieved from each race. Each chamber appears hermetically sealed at first, maybe the humans should only be allowed inside their own chamber but the 'temple' seems abandoned and the Engineers race long gone (extinct?) maybe something malfunctions and they're granted access to the other chambers and decide to take samples with them. Then the myth of Prometheus kicks in - Peter Weyland, who we can assume takes part in the expedition - becomes infected by one of the samples (voluntarily?) and begins to mutate/evolve into the veiny guy we see in the trailer (becomes a Titan); as the Titan of Myth he tries to steal the alien technology and the dna samples (Fire) to give them to humanity (in this case to Weyland corp) by taking the alien ship to earth by himself . By then he would most probably have turned against the rest of the Prometheus crew and decided to leave them behind. The crew, trying to prevent what they think could cause an extintion event, sacrifice themselves and the prometheus ship to try and stop Weyland as he takes off in the alien ship by crashing into it. In my opinion this could be the main plot of the film with a little "Alien Dna" thrown into the mix as stated by Riddley Scott. Riddley mentioned something about crossbreeding - IMO a member of the crew who also happens to be Shaw's love interest gets infected by alien dna and in turn infects Shaw through sexual intercourse. As a result Shaw gives birth to a alien/human hybrid, a mix of human dna and what we can call "xenomorphic" dna in its pure form. This hybris looks very much like a 'face hugger' - maybe the first one. Wouldn't it be a clever twist if the 'Xenomorphs' happen to be a entirely new species spawned from the mix of Human/alien dna? A genetic accident gone wrong (the Titan's punishment by the Gods).
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I think the Space Jockey is a biomechanical interface suit that connects the Engineer to the ship. What if the scene we are shown is reversed footage? The "telescope" comes out of the floor, the big Engineer guy sits in it, and then the suit then forms around him - interfacing him with the ship.
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Consider this: SJs (Engineers) - a higly evolved race of alien beings (scientists/geneticists) who collect DNA samples of alien species from throughout the galaxy and store them in chambers located in this planetoid. One chamber for each species. Each chamber has a representation of the species it belongs to, hence the Human-like face carved in stone. When prometheus crew arrives the facilities have long been abandoned by SJs due to biohazard danger (outbreak?), explains mummified remains seen in trailer (engineers that died from infection from one of the dna samples?) Prometheus crew unaware of the fact, become infected as well with different results. One mutates into veiny guy (guess is P. weyland). He has his own agenda, tries to take alien ship to earth (the Titan stealing fire from the Gods to give it to humanity). The rest of the crew try to stop him, crash Prometheus against alien ship as it takes off. Shaw gets infected by her partner (crossbreeding), gives birth to human/alien hybrid (first face hugger?) Face hugger impregnates another member of crew, first Xeno queen is born, lays its eggs inside the crashed alien ship.
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1. They find the temple with the cylinders. 2. They get "infected" by some DNA-changing Substance 3. Shaw gets "pregnant" by her friend (who has unfortunatelly also been infected) 4. The "baby" is born but is somekind of "wired octopus-beeing" 5. The octopus changes into engineer 6. The species died long ago, but "waited" for hosts to come to bring them back to life 7. now they are back to life, and humans are hunted as there can only be "one god" voila - maybe, maybe not. Maybe its much simpler than this...
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What I think is that this follows close to the story of newt in the book series and the comics and I mean that as in the elephantine race or "space jockeys" are Terra formers of dead planets so a bit god like. If anyone has read the books they know that earth is dead and another elephantine tells newt he plans to Terra form earth into a living planet again but I digress, I think the goo is the Terra forming stuff and thats why the humans want it more to the point Wayland wants it but as always something goes wrong alien appears reeks havoc and the elephantine in prometheus become the the very same one in alien one and the crew dont make it and Wayland covers it up and later sticks a colony there so he can get his wish. Samples and live specimens, anyone else thinking the same?
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Here's another theory: -SJs true purpose is to colonize other planets capable of sustaining life. -To this purpose they created a bio-weapon (the xenos) to be deployed on inhabited worlds and wipe out the indigenous species. -After the species are wiped out they terraform those planets to suit their needs. - Prometheus crew finds out about this and tries to prevent earth from suffering the same fate. In the first ‘ Alien’ Kane finds a chamber inside the derelict ship where hundreds of eggs are kept in storage, therefore the eggs are part of the ship's cargo and were being transported somewhere. There’s a thin mist covering the eggs that reacts to Kane when crossed , kind of like a security system. The eggs appear preserved and the huggers inside dormant. When Kane touches one of the eggs he starts some kind of reaction, the egg opens and the hugger attacks Kane. It's like the eggs ‘activate’ when they come in contact with other life forms. It’s safe to assume they pose a threat even to the SJ’s themselves, hence this “containment” area with the security measures in place. The derelict ship was probably en route to another world when something went wrong that caused it to crash land on LV-426. In could be a different ship/planet/SJ than the ones in Prometheus. LV-426 is a barren rock compared to this planet - Ash even refers to its atmosphere as ‘primordial’ – with severe weather patterns and probably uninhabitable.
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The problem with that last theory is that THIS is NOT the same ship that we see in Alien. There is a definite difference in the "Star Chamber" layout. I think the eggs in the first film were not supposed to be there. They infected the Humanoid, burst out of his chest and the Space Jockey suit he was interfaced with, and then laid those eggs. The Aliens as we know them are the product of the Humanoids and the Alien DNA, and then a human with the Humanoid/Alien DNA. But if the Alien DNA infects us directly ... the outcome would be a lesser form of the Aliens.
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well, as the alien spaceship in the trailer will be shot by prometheus and crashes onto a planet (LV..?), it's kind of logic that - from the alien planet, someone flies away with the alien spaceship - towards earth?? - if target is earth, someone wants to stop this - prometheus follows the ship and distroys it on LV.. So to the timeline... - humans combine information of wallpaintings all over the world to find the destination of their gods/makers - humans go there because of curiosity and higher goals of weyland corporation like power, technology, knowledge - there they find the temple with the ampules and do some research - as they arrive, they are beeing infected and "change" to something, maybe the Alien Civilisation is gone long time ago and the temple was there to "wait" for some created civilization to come, get infected and the alien race grows again? - as there comes to a conflict (obviously... this is a scifi-action-thriller..hehe) vickers fraction wants to steal technology for weyland interests - mutated crew member (who is now the Spacejokey) wants revenge and navigates starship of aliens towards earth to destroy mankind - prometheus follows and destroys alien starhip - on the lonely planet, after some time alien bursts through chest of space jokey and puts the eggs into the chamber we know from alien 1 -
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With the film's details on the down-low, I don't like to speculate too much as to how Scott is going to situate the race of the Space Jockey within the context of this new story that has been described as, "containing Alien's DNA, so to speak." I'm guessing this alien race somehow had to do with the development of the Xenomorphs, seeing as how it's warning beacon was being sent out to Nostromo in Alien. If I'm correct, the distress beacon was actually a warning heeding nearby ships to NOT land. Of course, the Nostromo decrypts this message far too late. I'm really excited. From the trailer, there's obviously going to be some epic reveals, especially concerning the human race's establishment as a species. I've always loved the Space Jockey: the idea that we were not the first to discover the terrors of the Xenomorphs has always peaked my curiosity. Also, the fact that the Space Jockey is being called "Engineer" makes me think that this race, or sect of race, may specifically be bio-engineers of either the human race or the Xenomorphs. Select shots from the trailer reveal egg chambers that look like science labs: more refined, cylindrically shaped test-tube-like structures serve as the Xenomorph eggs, someone is shown fiddling with what looks like Xenomorph saliva or natal fluid, someone is heard screaming CUT IT OFFFF!, a woman is shown struggling in front of a mirror with what appears to be interior physical pain. All of this is pointing to something important involving the Xenomorphs. What it is, I don't know. But I can't wait to find out. Thank you Mr. Scott for taking this step and expanding upon the Alien universe in an inventive and innovative manner...that is something hard to find in this era of rehashes, remakes, prequels, and sequels.
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If you could create life, why would you care? The assumption of good and evil is something that man kind has created. It some ancient texts there is no hell and no devil only a "god".
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[b]The Origins Of The Space Jockey Race[/b] [url=http://www.prometheus-movie.com/community/forums/topic/2432]TheSpaceJockeyRace[/url]
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I think everybody is WAY off base here...it is quite clear from everything we have been permitted to glean from the facts AS PRESENTED by Mr. Scott and Co. that what follows is undeniably the "bones" of the Prometheus movie: The Space Jockey is the one God, Jehovah. After crapping out the human race, he punishes HIMSELF by having Cartman eat his liver everyday for eternity...but he leaves himself an avenue of escape by planting star charts on earth so one day David the Android butler can find the Primal Goo and use it to stop Cartman (and possibly Butters) and save the universe. There. Now nobody has to see the film. And you can all remember how good Alien was...and how good the script was...old alien gets nailed by the hostiles and sends off a warning, etc...
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Ok so I haven't read through the other posts yet but wanted to contribute my thoughts before they were skewed by others perception. I have been a huge fan of the aliens saga (particularly the colonial marines and that ironically was a driving force for me to join the USMC,... Also coincidently the roles cast for those characters came out of the novel starship troopers which was much better than the movies portrayal.) Anyway,... Needless to say i was intrigued with the mythology aspect brought up in the beginning of this topic. Mythology is based on real world perception and typically he re-telling of epic deeds or catastrophic events to retain oral records. Based on the trailer and subsequent truth about the nature of the chest busters it is my thought that the space jockeys or engineers were onviouse remnants of an advanced space fairing race. The aliens themselves would appear to be a sort of biological weapon that is used by these space jockeys to control their dominance of other sentient life. It would appear from the trailers that once an advanced civilization is detected by the space jockeys they unleash the alien swarm to decimate the population. The survivors of these past attacks must have used the cave pictographs to establish a record of what had happened to them. It could be theorized that once the population was suffcieny decimated the race of space jockeys would then use the conqoured world for material resources. Except it would appear as if they eventually accidentally lost control of their super bio weapon and it caused their downfall,...
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New Spin-off...Greek mythology (I am Greek..not that I hold any copyrights:) ) suggests that Prometheus (actually Prometheus in Greek comes from the word Prometheia=Supply, so Prmetheus is the Supplier ...the one who brings things to somebody else), so Prometheus then is a supposedly human of good intentions, trying to steal a technology from Gods who, for some reason in this myth appear to be distant and uncaring for the humans. There is also a feeling of distinct creation levels...what I imply is that the feeling of ancient Greek history is that Gods were not loving creators and fathers of the human race...Well , they schemed like humans, they had passions like humans, they plotted they hated etc. And the clear distinction is : Gods and Mortals...A God would never refer to a human with the words "my child" or so... but rather as "You mortal!How do you dare talk to me". You get the picture.So poor Prometheus dares to steal a very useful techonlogy that would help the human race from what appear to be cruel and ingnorant to human needs Gods. Forget the basic Christian principle of Love here. So in this view, we must think of the Promethues Gods the same...uncaring, hard, selfish, and ones who enjoy their powers for themselves and for creating creatures not out of love but out of their need to manipulate them to get to their goals. So if...and I say if Space Jockeys are the modern Prometheus then two things might be happening: first they are either creation of the Gods like us humans, who accidentaly fell into the same trap of the Gods, long before us, and they let the pictograms to warn us, not to go there,and they did so, like Prometheus, when they discoverd that the nature of the Gods in malevolent. And it appears that they do this out of love for other intelligent species, creations of the same Gods as well. It's just that we have misinterpreted the pictogram message. Needless to say that they discovered first what we are going to see in this movie, meaning the alien DNA, grey matter whatsoever, that seems to be the key weapon of the Gods for "crowd-manipulation". Case two: They are direct "sons", creations of the Gods, who worked in the business of creating new worlds, so they knew the know-hows of creating life with the use of grey matter etc. And maybe they worked as slaves for the Gods. They knew the malevolent nature of their Gods but wouldn't or couldn't do anything about this. But as soon as they realized how the Gods manipulated everything to their best interest maybe one or some of them became concious enough to go against them, and since they were more sensitive to the creation chain they tried to steal the secret, so they could stop creating new slaves or helpless puppets and victims for the Gods (they could even have wanted them for food!), thus letting their selves exposed to the wrath of these Gods...sacrificing in a way themselves for us!. Maybe even invited us there to give us this secret to fight against the Gods as the Space Jockey race must have already been beaten. As for the original Aliens,...maybe this was the product of the grey matter and the malevolent nature of the Gods combined to create the weapon of choice for destroying worlds. Now, maybe that's just a cheap excuse why these creatures are always so hard to kill on screen and on PS3.:) (That was just for fun). Ok I stop somewhere about here and I hope you liked it and haven't gotten too much tired while doing so. Best regards. I would be glad to have any feedback from you. In two months we will know!
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after reading many posts on this site i can see many people who are going to be very disappointed when this film comes out.because expectations are so high that people forget that its just a film,and as a film it has to follow a certain path a tried tested formula.i for one hope that it will be a great movie,up there with alien which as you know was also a film that followed a basic formula and bare bones plot...but for the love of god please please please keep james cameron away from any sequel as in my opinion he started the rot of the franchise, ruined the look of the alien and turned it into some kind of easily killed bug
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hm. After reading that i agree, but have a feeling the Space Jok will be helples and i'll feel sorry fr him T_T lol
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new theory for the plot I thought I'd put out there after reading a few. The space jockeys technology clearly looks like its based on bio technology. The ships look organic and the chair grows into its occupant amongst a few uses of bio technology (not to mention several other bits of evidence in the trailers). There ships also look alot like an alien hive on the inside. Maybe under space jockey control, xenomorphs can be directed to build their hives into space jocky ships and structures. So Aliens are kind of like the SJ slave work force. Secondly maybe the space jockeys are originally evolved from a virus or bacteria (kind of x-files similar plot I know), the black ooze found in the pods in chamber with the big head. This ooze/virus infects other races and mutates them into space jockeys. A race that uses other races like that to reproduce would have no trouble with using other organic life as a kind of resource to build up their spaceships. Plus we know they are old (LV-426 space jocky was fossilised). Bacteria is one of the first forms of life. Imagine how much it could have evolved if we're talking on the cosmic scale with billions of years. So anyways I see it as something kind of like intergalatic farming for them. They leave clues on primitive worlds to wait for the population size to get advanced enough and big enough to reach a dormant SJ ship. The human crew's curiosity leads them to being infected by the SJ virus/DNA and becoming a space jockey themselves. The space jockey goes back to earth to "farm" us like a good alien farmer culling his herd. Some humans are infected to reproduce space jockeys. others are infected by aliens who make more ships under SJ control to spread to other worlds and repeat the process. Other thought that popped into my head. The space jockey suit also looks organic in nature. if the SJ use other species to reproduce and grow their technology maybe one guy gets infected and slowly turned into an organic SJ space suit, while another gets infected and turned into a just a space jockey (the blue head guy in the trailer), hence some differences seen in the clips of mutated crew members. Thoughts and opinions on this would be muchly appreciated fellow film geeks.
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Hi all, Having seen 4 pics showing David7/8 at the consoles and the Blue Man i imagine that David has come across the Map Room, activated the green orb and when he leaves it activates a sarcoffigus and awaken said blue man who then operates the console bringing up the jockey seat which has suit already built in that then envelopes him. This bears in mind that most pilots of aircraft have oxygen masks fitted above them for emergencies and that it being a space vehicle that environmental protection is paramount. Also the cryo containers have on three of them a hole similar to acid burn just at chest height but not the third which blue man exits, are they contaminated with a xeno type form, indeed there is all likely hood that Blue/Jockey's are the creators of genetic bio lifeforms that not only creates life but solid matter hence bio formations on ship
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I bought the new issue of EMPIRE magazine; awesome holographic cover and great coverage of Prometheus. The cast give their perspective on the movie and Sir Ridley Scott answers all the questions you could ever ask! Definitely worth the cash: http://www.empireonline.com/magazine/
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I honestly believe you guys are fooling yourself's. Please be respectful to the minds involved into this story... Ridley Scott and H.R. Giger...Both where and are wonderful Artist.... Alien was the outcome.. not the vision.... Proto Xenomophs would be a correct guess...But also Understanding Giger's views in Bio Mechanics...its was his mind alone that brought what you see today... Ridley Scott has found a story that Honers Giger...and to bring his creation to life... As for the space Jocky its nothing more then a Space Suit...and clearly by the trailer alone you see someone changing not into but trying to exscape his own death.... Xenomorph simply wasnt just sitting inside but changing the DNA ..what your seeing is Gestation... So....Every King Die's, and this one escapes death, and threw biotech, and careful planning calls out for new DNA, and Gets his wish, But How dose one excape Death By becomming something New... Remember if Ripley was never cloned we wouldnt know they have genetic Memory..... Bottom Line is sometime's it takes more then running from death, and you dont always get what your looking for but in the end some Kings where better off dead, Becuase its takes a Queen to Rule...Yes that was a hint...Word Play in front of you the Whole Time....Good Luck Fans

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