Xenomorph Origin....

Correction: Our creation

I would think it would be the other way around, especially if they are going off those old Summarian texts and such.

Do elaborate

According to the tale of the Annunaki, we were created by alien experimentation's to be slaves and work for them, then they transported us to this planet and left us here because the grew to dislike us. It's a long story to elaborate too much on.

Also this is the first line in the description of the movie on imdb. "A team of explorers discover a clue to the origins of mankind on Earth" http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1446714/

Might have been created by some unknown enemies of the Space Jockey race, maybe a rival faction within the Space Jockey culture.

Lol.... Oh ok, well I'm referring to source material that's canon to 'Prometheus'. My question is solely based on the foundation of the 'Alien' films. Any spinoff novelizations fall under the exact same category that the AvP films do....they're irrelevant. I can assure you that if you're using any other 'Alien' story besides the original 1979 film and maybe even Cameron's 'Aliens', you're gonna be extremely confused as well as disappointed. This is why I posted this question in the 'Talk Prometheus' section.....But interesting take you have, none the less... But I would like someone's ideas based on 'Prometheus' being only connected to 'Alien'

Also, being that the title is 'Prometheus', I'm sure we do something with their technology that we're not supposed to....like make a biological weapon that even we can't control....all speculation of course

I'm not using other alien stories, this is from real texts that go along with those 'symbols and tablets' they are finding. I don't know which direction he is going to take this movie but I promise they didn't make the xenomorph. The Xenomorph was created by the race they are going to encounter in the movie, so they were basically created by other aliens as a bio-weapon. That is why when they come out of a human they look more human, or like in alien three when it came out of the dog it looked like a dog. They're made to copy their host so they can become the perfect weapon to kill it. The movies the queen was in were not directed by Ridley and she was just thrown in to explain how they are born...however its not the real case.

Whoa, ok..... where do i start XenomorphX.... first of all, you make some pretty bold & definitive statements with some (and god bless you for it) contradictions. You 'down talk' the addition of the 'Queen Alien' due to it not being spawned from the mind of Ridley BUT you use Alien 3 as a reference to strengthen your argument about the Xenomorph life cyle and host mimicry with your 'dog alien' comment..... Heads up: Alien 3 was directed by (barely) David Fincher .... There's is absolutely nothing to actually suggest that the Xenomorph is a weapon, besides fan fiction and spin-off novelizations....and of course those aren't canon to 'Prometheus'......but you know that. Now, I'm not even disputing the possibility of the Xenomporph being a weapon of sorts, but if it was genetically created by someone, then it can (and most probably) has a life cycle, like any other biological entity..... weapon or not. The 'Alien Queen' is logical....and an excellent addition to the Alien universe, if i might add. And what 'symbols and tablets' are you talking about?... Are you able to translate something the rest of us can't in the trailers of 'Prometheus'? ... What I'm saying is, please don't assume.... I started this discussion to get some educated input..... You're kinda pulling ideas out of your butt and stating them as fact... The 'Prick' in me kind of hopes this movie disappoints you, due to your close mindedness.....but i welcome ideas from you that are based on things you ACTUALLY see in trailers and previous films than where ever you're geting them.

@AlsoKnownAsNate That us doing something we are not suposed to is something i also touched upon, as if the Space Jockeys wanted Earth wiped out before we got there, why wait for us to find them. My thought is just as you said and maybe simular to what happened in Ghost Busters.. by that i mean the Ghostbusters kept all those Ghosts in the Containment Tank, then that Walter Peck who knows nothing of the consequences of the Containment Tank decides to medle about with stuff he knows nothing about and turns it off unleashing all the Ghosts on New York. Thus Mankind comes across the Tech of the Space Jockey and messes about and maybe steals stuff they it beyond their understanding and opens Pandoras Box with untold consequences and thus we must be punished.

@XenomorphX I understand what your saying, and end of the day most people are speculating about all sorts and not just you with the whole Summarian/Anunaki context. FACTS 1) Shaw and Holloway find Cave Drawings in France that bear resemblance to others Artifacts and Markings on Ancient Civilisations inc Sumerian, Egyption, Mayan etc etc. This is all in the Trailer (now thats not to say those cultures all have that Star Chart in real life). 2) Movie is Prometheus and one tag line is we set out to uncover the truth of our begining. Well Prometheus is a Greek Titan who is said to have greated Man and gave us our first Technology that being Fire without other Gods/Titans permision. These are facts about or from the movie, i think all you have done XenomorphX is looked at what the suposed real ideas behind the real Ancient Civilisations and anyone who cares to check will see that for example Greeks, Egyptians and Sumerian beleafs are all simular all based on Gods who came from the Stars who created Man, who apear as Mankind does only Larger in size and portrayed as devine but also has more than one deity. i.e not ONE GOD CREATOR Now the movie is basing the Story off findings linked to those Ancient Civilisations (with a bit of fiction thrown in, i.e the exact Star Maps in each Culture). When you then compare that to what we have seen of what apears to be Space Jockey/Blue Man. who apear to be a Large Humaniod Race so advanced they would be like Gods, on a Star System that the Cave Drawings etc etc leads to. Then there are many similarities. And thus your point in my oppinion and i recon in many others on here is valid. In the context of the movie, and findings on Cave Walls and connection in movie of Ancient Civilsations and the Greek Titan Prometheus then actualy looking in depth at some of those Civilsations really worshiped the connection with Space Jockey is very close. Off course Space Jockey is not real is a fiction its a film, the Sumarian Anunaki, Greek Titans, Egyptian Gods again all could be nothing more than Myth as we have not come across in real life any 100% proof to prove to everyone any of them actually existed and the same goes for the Bible and its take on the Story.

Hold on one darn cotton pickin minute there lol.......all of a sudden people are saying that we DO know who created the Xenomorph? When was this and how did i miss it.....have i been in hypersleep? I thought it was one of the big unanswered questions? Did i miss something?

I think it is entirely possible that humans create the Xeno or a t least its predeccessor. Lets say the expedition arrives, stumbles upon things they have no comprehension of thus mutating several of the crew. Seeing the power of this, Weyland makes his presence known and demands that the secrets of the Engineers be given to man. The engineers refuse, barely acknowledging humanity as sentient beings. Weylands hubris leads to confrontation, several more crew member deaths, and the remaining crew head back to the ship. Having ordered David to steal an ampule, Weyland instructs him to use it on Shaws "baby" to create a biological weapon (proto xeno) to use against the Engineers. This doesn't work as planned and the Engineers decide to unleash our creation on Earth as punishment for our hubris. The xeno we know and love though doesn't exist until the SJ is infected.

Nate, I'm not trying to argue with you but am stating things that I have heard from others. As for the Annunaki thing, BigDave said it all. It's just something you will have to do your own research on if you are curious about those tablets. I assure you this movie will not disappoint me because unlike so many others I am not expecting any certain thing to happen. I'm interested in the adventure and what it will have to bring and what new things it will have to offer. You seem to have the closed mind if you cannot accept what I am saying, what I have heard from others. I'm not disclosing your ideas at all and I accept them too. Never did I say one was right, and one was completely wrong. But I do believe they are more likely a bio-weapon..perhaps created by the SpaceJockey, I don't know. But I find it very rude and disrespectful to say you hope I don't enjoy the movie as I would never wish that upon you.. People who are expecting xenomorphs may be disappointed, because he most likely will not have them in this movie, or the star of it. This idea is something he has been wanting to do since the Alien series only the fans at the time kind of hindered it because they just wanted more 'Alien'. I'm accepting this fact...and I have no problem with seeing some new and different aliens incorporated.

@Mark Cawley I dont think anyone really is claiming 100% they know who created the Xeno's people are just looking at clues and comming up with ideas some could be close to the truth some not and we will never know untill we watch the Movie. For all we know the movie could be about the Blue Man and he creates the Smurfs who then create the Xenos ;) We just dont know. From what Ridley has hinted we will find out who/What the Space Jockey are and see Clues as to a connection with the Alien as in we will see its DNA that means either a Organism based on same DNA or a earlier Evolution which just dont know and we dont know for sure even it if will aknowlegde who creates the Xeno or even who creates the Organisms in this movie. The theory that the Xeno could have occuried because of our influence somehow after landing on that planet is interesting, but we wont know whats the real deal untill we have seen the Movie.

@XenomorphX, if your using 'BigDave' as back up for what you're trying to prove, I think you need to re-read what he wrote. He's on the write track...you're stating opinion/ speculation as fact.... No disrespect, but you're extremely vague with your evidence toward your extremely bold and definitive statements.... Even, 'Mark Cawley' is wondering why the use of such definitive reference to the origin of the Xenomorph. @Time23, I think you're on to something......

@XenomorphX, if your using 'BigDave' as back up for what you're trying to prove, I think you need to re-read what he wrote. He's on the write track...you're stating opinion/ speculation as fact.... No disrespect, but you're extremely vague with your evidence toward your extremely bold and definitive statements.... Even, 'Mark Cawley' is wondering why the use of such definitive reference to the origin of the Xenomorph. @Time23, I think you're on to something......

So is the implication then that the so called Xeno Mural is not an image of a xeno at all? Or is it a blueprint for the future creation of a xeno? I don't know, I have no reason to think the xenos don't already exist during Prometheus. And if they already exist, the SJs or whoever may be harvesting them, their eggs, or that liquid they secrete that seems to be able to build structures and organic constructs. It's also been said elsewhere that what we really steal is the star map coordinates to unknown regions of the universe, and that the SJs see us (our hubris and destructive/exploitive nature specifically) as a threat, a parasite that will spread to through out the universe.

I think the 'xeno mural' on the ceiling is more of a biotech version of cryo-sleep for the Space Jockey ....

First of all it is never directly said that the space jockeys/engineers created us intenionally.. its more implied that the broken down dna evovled overtime. The film prometheus gives hints to the creation of the xenomorph we see in the Alien franchise. When the humans first come upon the room of ampules, there is a scene in which it shows you a close up of a step being taken, follow by tiny worms when the foot is removed. insignifcant? highly unlikely as we see not much further on those same little worms in goo. later on we see snake/worm like creatures. these creatures closely resemble a chest burster. they also have the acid properties later found in the xenomorphs. We also see one of these creatures enter the body of Fifield who later comes back as a mutated/evolved form. we also later see a squid like creature which would become somewhat of a precursor to a facehugger which attaches itself to the Engineer. and finally at the end we see the begins of what a xenomorph will be. so those were the clues so who created the xenomorph...... based on those clues... the creature that bursts out of the engineers chest would no doubt eventually encounted the snake/worm like creatures, who are faster and more agile... and just like it entered the body of Hifield, it would also enter the pre-xenomorph creature not killing it, but mutating and evolving it.. this would explain how the eventual xenomorph creature is agile and fast aswell as explain how its blood is acidic and how its head becomes more elongated, it would also explain the reason why the facehuggers and chestbursters also look like a combination of the two precursor creatures we see in prometheus aswell as, why the xenomorph lays eggs, as the snake/worm like creatures would have laid eggs. this is possibly why evertime a facehugger latches on to a certain host, the resulting alien that eventuates from the victim takes on traits of the host. its a result of the initial reaction we see in prometheus caused by the goo this whole theory could also suggest how a possible sequel and possible link to the Alien movie could be done, as we see at the end of Prometheus Shaw travels to the Engineer homeplanet... Based on the hostility shown by the Engineer that was woken from stasis we can assume Shaw would be killed when she reached their planet and The Engineers would likely return to LV-223 to determine the events that took place. they would also discover the pre-xenomorph which has now evolved into the xenomorph we all know. True to form one would find an egg, the egg would hatch, an engineer would get face hugged, an alien would result and reign chaos. The Engineers would then collect the eggs, put them into stasis, and fight off all remaining xenomorphs, and nuke the base to make certain they are all wiped out. we could assume only one engineer survives, jumps into the pilot seat to plot a course for home, feels his chest sarting to hurt, sets off the distress signal and then crash lands on LV-426 where 30 years later in the year 2122 the nostromo picks up the signal and the events of Alien start.