Ramming or trying to Escape

Here is why... [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v234/LT.HIGHTIMES/A1aaims.png[/img]

looks to me like Promo is Speeding at the Derelict !!! Deliberately !!!

Well we know that Promo definatley drops "something" before impact....this is how Vickers and Shaw end up running away from the impacted and now rolling SJ ship.

The Prometheus is definitely giving chase, but the good capt. looks rather more surprised than determined, in the shot just before impact. Maybe the SJ ship just keeps right on coming, instead of taking evasive measures.

I didnt say she was in the escape pod.....i just included her in the running away thing. Why couldnt they just step sideways anyway? Why run away in the direction of a rolling huge ship that could flatten them.........its the stuff of cartoons lol

.....as is the fact that the gigantic SJ ship doesn't crumple up like an aluminum can when it impacts the ground.

Janek's facial expression is one of pants shitting terror, not bravery, fighting spirit, or determination. Looks like he's seeing something of unspeakable horror for the first time.

Janek's face appears to be screaming in a "scared to death" and "let's do this" way.-(to me anyway). The possible decision to ram the alien ship to stop it coupled with the thought of " this is it, i'm going to die right now.)

Ive never seen the point of giving your life to save others.........i mean whats in it for Janek?

@Wirm My point with saying that is, it may not be the scene where he's crashing the ship. It may be a scene of him seeing some monster or someone getting destroyed in some horrifying manner.

@Wirrn: Brilliant observation. That is one main discrepancy that isn't explained and keeps bothering me: Vickers stands next to Janek in the scene where he becomes determined to ram, we presume she runs down the hall, rips off her suit in prep for putting on space-suit? Next she's desparately getting into escape shuttle chamber? Next, shuttle is dropped off. Seconds later, it looks like Prometheus rams derelict. Explosion Derelict begins to descend. And Shaw AND (????) Vickers suddenly on the ground running together? How can that be? If Vickers joined her, at least you'd think she'd scoop up Shaw from off the ground with the shuttle...not go for a jog next to her under the falling derelict...

For all the threads that have mentioned this sequence, I'm only wondering why it seems to be the given understanding that the alien ship is headed to Earth and with cruel intentions. This seems to parallel an equal assumption by the Prometheus crew (or at least Shaw), but isn't it possible that this is a big mistake? Just one of many things they are terribly wrong about? I'd guess that as a possibility, but mostly because I think hubris/assumption, and tragedy all seem to dovetail one another. Not sure about this guess, but maybe this act of seeming heroism happens very early in the film, and sets the stage for everything that comes after. (It would certainly explain some of why they put it right out there in the trailer, yeah?)

For all the threads that have mentioned this sequence, I'm only wondering why it seems to be the given understanding that the alien ship is headed to Earth and with cruel intentions. This seems to parallel an equal assumption by the Prometheus crew (or at least Shaw), but isn't it possible that this is a big mistake? Just one of many things they are terribly wrong about? I'd guess that as a possibility, but mostly because I think hubris/assumption, and tragedy all seem to dovetail one another. Not sure about this guess, but maybe this act of seeming heroism happens very early in the film, and sets the stage for everything that comes after. (It would certainly explain some of why they put it right out there in the trailer, yeah?)

The red lights tell a story. What kind of circumstance would trigger them to go off? Self-destruct? Yes. Proximity warning? Yes. Forced ramming? Uh...hmm. Maybe. But I've never seen that before. And it looks as though Janek hasn't either! I don't know what to make of that scene. [quote]Janek's facial expression is one of pants shitting terror[/quote] Good description! LOL

ye mark crawleys right i think the somthing that u c dropped is the escape pods and thats how they end up running from the crashing derrelict and hello everyone im new cant beleive the buzz about this film ridley either makes world beaters or the complete opposite in terms of films ive just got a feelin that this films gonna b talked about for a long time cant wait

One thing that is not clear about the pod sequence is whether they are ejected separately from the ship or whether the pod simply something the bridge crew jump into that is then secured INSIDE THAT SHUTTLE/EEV? that is seen leaving the Prometheus? Lots of misdirection in these jump-cut trailers. 3/4 of all of "assumptions" are going to turn out to be completely false in 2 months.

well if you look at the spoiler on IMDB, it says that a crew of scientists are stranded on a alien planet looking for clues about the orgins of mankind on Earth. Now whether the Prometheus runs into derelict or vice versa....we just know at this point that they collide and the derelict crashes. Prometheus appears to explode in the sky. I am inclined to think judging by the Capt's face that he is intentionally guiding the Prometheus to intersect the derelict. I am also thinking that this happens closer to beginning of the fim than the end - maybe somewhere in the middle? So it appears as if there is some sort of colony is already established on the moon/planetoid/planet by the Weyland Corp in which the derelict crashes and is not found again until Nostromo founders on it years from this point. So, begs the question, did Weyland's company clean up or destroy the remnants of the colony and the Prometheus since Nostromo does not recognize LV426? If that were the case, why wouldn't they have salvaged what was in the derelict before Nostromo got there? If Ridley is staying true to the storylines, why didn't any of the crew pick up that this was an established planet that had gone through terraforming or had been visited previously by the company? Why no one had picked up on any wreckage of the Prometheus? Perehaps these are questions that will be answered in the sequel to Prometheus and the prequel to Alien.

it may be my OCD but i dont think the captains "close up" and the ramming of the ships (be it on purpose or not) are in the same scene. if they are, there is a major change in lighting, mood, backdrop, so on. it isnt just his reaction that seems out of place to me, but the picture of him standing in the cockpit as opposed to his open mouthed picture with all of the lighting and other subtle changes seems off to me to be the same scene. i know in movies now a-days they take huge breaks in between scenes and even film scenes out of order so obvious changes in a single scene are pretty common, it is very hard to try and get everything the way it was the last time they were filming. if it ISNT one of those simple filming mistakes i would say the captains reaction shot and the standing picture with the space jockey ship in the sky are very different scenes in the movie.

funny thing about the person (Sparticus) who posted the image of the Prometheus speeding toward the derelict....I thought the derelict was flying in the upright position - not flat in the sky...which would exlain then that when it falls from the sky, it begins rolling on the ground. Is this an actual screen grab? Never saw that image before. Where'd you get it?

Ive never seen the point of giving your life to save others.........i mean whats in it for Janek? Well according to Shaw, if he doesn't do something rash, then there will not be a Earth to go back to. Make perfect sense! And he isn't saving a few lives, it is suggested by otheres here that he is in fact saving Earth by sacrificing not only himself, but the rest of the team since there will be no way off the planet without the Prometheus. Hell if it were me, I'd program the Prometheus to interesect the derelect then jump into an escape pod myself!... that is if I had time to program the Prometheus.