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MemberOvomorphApril 08, 2012lol...this topic has been done to death I know, but here is my explanation, and I think the only one which makes closest sense...
firstly had David Fincher simply excluded the egg and just had the facehugger the whole series would have been more canon
but basically, the egg IS in the landing gear, it's inside looking out...The EEV does have the Sulaco branding on it too
The egg was laid by the queen Alien..basically there always is an emergency egg lodged close to the sphincter, separate from the egg sack and it contains a super face hugger
The super face hugger can impregnate multiple hosts, and choose when to lay the queen egg
there you go, problem solved
April 08, 2012
I always thought it was because the Queen was stowed away on it, however I watched Aliens 2 nights ago and she was only on the outside of the ship, hiding in the landing gear, and not in the ship.
Honestly, it seems like there were so many cuts and re-writes done to the Alien 3 script and movie that I think it was an oversight. The way it was cut made it seem like Bishop might have placed it there when he was "delayed", sadly. I love Bishop. :(
Wat
April 08, 2012
LOLZ!... Yes a magical egg it was. Perhaps it was Easter in space.
Way back in the 80's when I first saw Aliens at the theater, I had originally thought that they were going to show in a third movie that Bishop was in fact really UP TO NO GOOD!....
But obviously, that didnt really turn out to be the case.... Or did it? They did have another sinister Bishop show up at the end of Alien3.
April 09, 2012
You all seem to have overlooked the fact that there were in fact 2 eggs not one. One for Rippers facehead and one for the poor dog.
How would Bishop have got to the eggs in the first place? And how do you stop them opening? I can't imagine being able to pick one up and walk around with it.
The Queen must have had a couple hidden up her bum or summit.
April 09, 2012
This is rumor control, here are the facts...
There was no egg in the landing gear of the drop-ship.
In Alien 3, there was one egg lodged between the ceiling and wall near the cryo-tubes onboard the Sulaco, with a second one lodged in a similar position inside the EEV.
The facehugger in question is actually called the "Royal Facehugger" (see below). This special facehugger was originally intended to be used to implant its embryo inside Ripley, its armour plating adding further protection to the precious Queen Alien embryo carried within. A dead Royal facehugger can be seen in the Assembly cut of Alien 3, picked up by one of the inmates after they transport the Ox into the abattoir. Also because of the two eggs we can firmly say this facehugger can only implant one embryo, a Queen embryo.
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April 09, 2012
I didn't say it was an explanation of how they got there, just the facts of where the eggs were and the facts about the Royal Facehugger.
Take into account Alien 3 went through numerous rewrites before David Fincher was brought on as Director, despite the fact that the sets had already been built and the release date set. Then when Fincher came on board, his first ever film, he had to write the script incorporating existing sets, cast, and creature effects. And then when he had finished the Brandywine guys (David Giler, Gordon Carroll and Walter Hill) took half of everything Fincher had done, reshot it and rewrote the script Fincher had managed to come up before releasing it.
How the eggs got on board the Sulaco and the EEV were overlooked, so that the Brandywine guys could turn a quick profit, milking the franchise for every penny it was worth, just like they did with Alien Resurrection, AVP and AVPR.
April 09, 2012
If I may comment.....Snorkelbottom's point, I believe (could be wrong), is that there is no logical explanation for the eggs being on board the Sulaco as they are.....
The final sequence of 'Aliens' with the queen shows not one single opportunity for to lay one, let alone two eggs, and plant them on the interior wall of the cryo-chamber or whatever room that is.....from moment one, she descends from the landing gear, rips Bishop in half, chases Ripley, shifts focus to Newt and chases her, shifts back to Ripley and engages in the fight that ultimately kills her......
....the thing is, the way it turns out, the opening sequence of 'Alien 3' is one of the most glaring sequel to sequel continuity errors in cinematic history, WITH NO LOGICAL EXPLANATION.
Even the suggestion that Bishop somehow smuggled the eggs on board, there's then, no reason for him to one, pick up Ripley and Hicks and take her to the air processor, and two, no reason for him to come back for her and Newt....Ripley's a liability at that point and it doesn't follow common sense, especially concerning Bishop's knowledge of everything she's done to that point to wipe out the species....past and present.
April 09, 2012
I think it is important because a plothole that size would disqualify the movie from being cannon...you can't introduce magical eggs and expect it to be a part of the series...due to this I think the Alien saga ended at Aliens, as much as I like Alien 3
I have researched this for a while, and it seems no one bothered to explain it, not even the writers...if I did my job that lazily I'd be sacked
@Snorkel I never knew they essentially stole Finchers script and shots...bastards
April 09, 2012
The Xen queen must have laid the egg right as she was getting of the dropship, which is before she does battle with Ripley in a power loader. Kind of like slight of hand but with egg laying.
April 09, 2012
@craig exactly...the thing is like I said, had they simply not shown eggs, and had just the facehuggers instead, you could argue they hitched a ride with the queen and then hid..would still be sht but would make more sense
this would also tie in with the sound of a facehugger scurrying around at the end credits of Aliens
Bishop did not have time to take eggs back..too long a journey to make that round trip
April 09, 2012
@Craigamore...
Further, to the no LOGICAL explanation idea, there are literally dozens of things in Aliens that have no logical explanation.
Now dont get me wrong. I like Aliens.. But I consider it a popcorn fluff piece. Something to enjoy with a group and laugh along with... YES laugh folks... It was more a action-comedy that a serious movie. But thats fine, it worked for what it was.
To get a little off topic, for me, the most ridiculous stretches in logic in Aliens are the completely inept military tactics. Just completely bizarre. No modern army on Earth would ever conduct operations like that.
Sure.. I get it.. It was Cameron's only way of setting up the subplots of the Marine survivors being marrooned with essentially no backup and having to call down another ship via remote since the ship dosen't have its own commanding officer, first officer, engineers, maintenance crews, weapons loaders, fuelers, etc. etc. etc.
Its utterly absurd that any competent officer is going to leave a nuclear armed capital ship virtually CREWLESS orbiting in space.
Can anyone Imagine Obama having sent in the Bin Laden team as 1 SQUAD, in 1 SHIP, with virtually no backup monitoring the entire situation, with a other aircraft hovering on station if required for immediate evac... JUST LIKE WAS REQUIRED in that REAL LIFE situation.
Cameron may have given a lot of thought to his concept of the Alien life cycle, but the military concepts in Aliens were a f-ingg joke!
April 09, 2012
@Snorkelbottom.. I never said the egg was in the landing gear. I said the Queen could not have laid it because she was hiding in the landing gear not on the ship. I also said there were so many edits done to the movie and script that the story was garbled and messed up. What ended up happening was that it looked like Bishop was the culprit after Alien 3 was released because of all the stupid re-writes and editing. O_O
Wat
April 09, 2012
@Snorkelbottom; Oops my bad. I assumed you were directing the question at me because I spoke about the landing gear and a lot of what you covered as well. :P
Also, here is a link that explores the subject: [url= I assumed you were directing the question at me]Egg on the Sulaco[/url]
Wat
April 09, 2012
With regards to the Derelict,
I say the last thing the dead Jockey did before waiting to die was PUT THEM THERE, or the guys he signaled form his race came and put them there...the more I think about it, the more I think they were PLACED there to protect the Derelict from intruders!!!
As for the Sulaco,
I say Burke put it there!!! He was clearly holding out after dropping the 2 facehuggers on Newt and Ripley, in the part of the ship closest to the entrance to the Sulaco, and if you recall when he went back in there, he got killed by a XENOMORPH, but from behind him, meaning that thing was coming at him from the direction of the entrance to the Sulaco.
Maybe that Xenomorph Put it There People.
That seems like the most plausible thing actually!