Logic says the crew can't have anything to do with Alien

TheNextLV426
MemberOvomorphApril 16, 20121661 Views22 RepliesThe crew can't be responsible for the LV-426 crash.
Prometheus is set 30 years prior to Alien as we know, but Zeta Reticuli II, the star cluster where LV-426 is apparently, is around 40 light years away.
That means, the signal wouldn't have reached Earth for another 10 years after the Nostromo. Its highly unlikely that company scientists would have discovered it immediately, instead it would have taken a few years to find it.
So the derelict on LV-426 must have happened at least 10 - 20 years before Prometheus
April 16, 2012
It's the Nostromo that pics up the signal while flying by right? not earth.
At the same time there seems to be communication between Nostromo and earth (via mother). if there is FTL travel for ships, looks like there is faster tarvel of messages. then it's possible
April 16, 2012
Where is the damage on the derelict in LV426 when (going by the trailer) Prometheus is rammed into the derelict? There is clear damaged in the trailer as the derelict falls burning from the sky (right in the centre of the U shape)
And yet there is no signs of any damage on the derelict on LV426 (Alien) in the area it was rammed, which to me might suggest that there is a bit of worm hole jumping going on in the new film or that there is more than one derelict !
April 16, 2012
Shinobi the company actually knew about the signal before the Nostromo even left mate as thats why the science officer was replaced with Ash 2 weeks prior to its launch.
April 16, 2012
we are drawing conclusions not on facts but over speculations ... i think we have to wait the movie for some answers
April 16, 2012
@pulseriffle - I'll accept parked.
@ShinobiX9X - as pulseriffle points out, the movie has undertones of exactly what does the company know already.
If they have already decoded the signal then it must have been sent at least 40 years prior
April 16, 2012
I dont agree with the Parked...
Ridley did say it was parked recently but i dont think it was a planned parking more like a emergency landing or crash landing.
Like if a Plane had some kind of Problem and had to land but was no where near a Airport and thus the pilot had to land the plane in a field.
So its not a crash, but its by no means a planed or plane sailing landing either.
Unless the ship did land/park for some reason and then after it landed something went arong and a Xeno got lose etc.
R.I.P Sox 01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017
April 16, 2012
As far as the crew having anything to do with Alien, we dont know.
If the Derelict on LV426 is not the same one in Prometheus, maybe its there after, before or around the same time. Thus maybe it never left LV223 but was heading towards it.
Then yes the crew would have nothing to do with Alien or the Xeno.
But Ridley did say this movie tells of how "Mommy meets Daddy" now what can that mean?
I think maybe the Shaw Baby has a lot to do with how the Xenos was created, but thats just speculation by me.
Then again Ridley has said this movies last 8 minutes will link derectly to Alien and so will somehow explain but maybe not in detail how, why and when the Derelict on LV426 got there.
They only said we will see a direct link to Alien in the last 8 minutes and that does indeed mean that its not necessarily the events of the crew or what happens on LV223 have a direct link to Alien.
R.I.P Sox 01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017
April 16, 2012
Haha classic @parked ... who the hell would WANT to park on that shitty, stormy crap of a planet anyhow? ... not a normal person with an intact ship I'd bet ... I'd like to go with emergency landing at least ... being as crashed is now out of the window ...
April 16, 2012
@TheNextLV426
Your set of assumptions may be invalid.
The System is at a distance of 40 LY, but they cover the distance in 2-3 years: evidently, by whatever means, they have mastered travel at Super-Light speeds.
It might be fair to conclude that a race, who can do that, might also be able to master Super-Lightspeed communications, if only for the benefit of the story - as that would wash out any discrepancy issue.
I don't see any mystery.
@BigDave
You seem to be talking yourself in circles, without the need to do so?:
If the Director has indicated that the Derelict vehicle, "Parked", there is only one meaning and it is straightforward: the correct, and only, interpretation of, "Parked", is that the vehicle was intentionally and deliberately, with full knowledge and control, brought to rest.
There is no room in that usage, at all, for, "crash landing", nor, "emergency landing", nor any other kind of fantasy scenario, because those scenarios have their own terms.
"Parked", means, "Parked".
To suggest otherwise, is to suggest the Director doesn't really know what he means, himself - which seems an odd suggestion to make.
April 16, 2012
I am positive there are several Industrial Working Man Hamsters in this thing as well...[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v234/LT.HIGHTIMES/1a1hampster.jpg[/img]
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April 16, 2012
@Gemini,
They were headed for LV-711 for some drinks and snacks but ran out of fuel and coasted to a stop on LV-426, just shy of their destination.
There's apparently no way to say "Get out and push" in the SJ language, so there the spaceship lay until that fateful day in 2179.
April 16, 2012
Yeah, but logic would also say that Kim Kardassian is at best, barely qualified to work as a clerk in a shoe store.
Yet she has 100 Million dollars!...
and counting.
April 16, 2012
If Weyland knew in advance that there was an warning signal from Zeta Reticuli, the "Prometheus" most likely would be weaponized.
So the warning signal must have beggining after (or during) "Prometheus" events.
Besides that: if "superluminal" communications are allowed, why in the hell the Nostromo crew didn´t send any alert to Earth about their sorry situation after the xeno got in? Proof of it is that they took 50 years to rescue Ripley (I know, this in the premise that "Aliens" is canon).
April 16, 2012
@allinamberclad
true the SJs could have mastered FTL communication but one would assume that you would need dedicated hardware to receive the transmission rather than a standard radio which would obey the laws of physics.
It they go down that route then it sounds like lazy writing.