scene with space jockey is what ties it in to Alien in last 8 minutes

You may be on to something there,blake_84.Last year RS said there will be NO XENO in Prometheus.But,then he said we would see "ALIEN DNA". I assumed him to mean outright,no Xeno,Chestburster,Facehugger or egg. But,now I'm not so sure.I would think he has to throw something nice to ALIEN fans in this film...more than just the SJ.

actually that arm does not look like the one from the SJ shown above! The one where the snail or whatever slips inside looks clearly human technology.

That's one of the human space suits.

im not so sure its human suit. i mean, im only 18 and im doing this in my english class period..lol..but its shown in the imax trailer right after the sj, the skin is blue, and the gloves match.

Yes thats def a human suit. i have heard from people in the know that its the same SJ and he is actually attacked by another yet unseen creature called The Deacon by crew, he forces his way INTO the SJ chest, not out as we have been led to be believe, thats what they tell me anyway.

i think the blue dude is actually the space jockey. who kills a good number of the crew or does whatever main plot device. then gets in his suit for liftoff or whatever and this gets in [img] http://www.geekrest.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/prometheus_movie_space_jockey_suit.jpg [/img]

and as you see, the human suits dont match

Look at the suit gloves on any of the other stills, they all have the three silver studs on them.

@Mr.Ventham: was this brought up then? for ridley scott to introduce a new character and screw up what we've known is...not likely

Here we go again - another Alien wanabe prequel lover looking for a face hugger or chest burster and somehow hoping the movie gets rewritten to have more Alien BS in it. Maybe a queen or a giant SJ with a facehugger getting infected and then we have our tie in to Alien. Give it up folks this is not an ALien movie.

Deja vu

[url=http://www.heyuguys.co.uk/2012/04/04/fantastic-batch-of-16-new-images-released-for-prometheus/]Your text to link here...[/url] look at the shot of Charlize holding the flamethrower, bottom left, thats the same suit arm you`re talking about with the hexagonal studs....I really doubt its the SJ.

I think RS stating that this isn't a prequel is nothing more than a red herring. of course it's a prequel and we all know where it's going to lead. if RS says the last 7-8 minutes tie into Alien then we're bound to get a glimpse of some sort of xenomorph, whether it's a queen alien or not. I don't really care if we get to see the classic alien, so long as we get an idea of their origin

@dopelganger: it isnt what i want, its what fits and makes sense with the variables. what is your theory then?

Actually according to a lot of reports the last 10 minutes were a closed set, the editor of the trailer didn't have them and the special effects people are only getting bits and pieces of it to work with so they don't even have the full story. So that scene is before the last 10 minutes. It is probably right before the jockey ship takes off and the prometheus rams it.

@Mr.Ventham you say something forces it's way in when cleary it appears the SJ's suit has burst from the inside out...... Who are these people in the know???

Ridley has constantly said the last 8 minutes is going to explain something in Alien. This is what we are discussing, what that could be. I am sure the movie is going to have it's own story and until seen is hard to discuss. Why can't we discuss what that tie in might be though? What makes some of you so angry about all this?

There are a lot more creatures in this than we have been shown yet, No the orig Alien/Facehugger dont appear but i do think we can say what does are their grandparents. that makes it an Alien Movie in my book but I may be alone there. also blake_84 take a closer look at the top edges on the glove or gaunlet and then compare them to the one Noomi is wearing in the photo you posted....if that doesnt convince you its a human suit being invaded then nothing will. the timing of its appearance in the teaser shouldnt be taken literally.

Don't feed the troll

@Mr.ventham: i see it now. im on a droid so i didnt before. as far as theories i cant help but shake that the big blue guy is the space jockey and he rapes shaw, lettin off some new DNA thing (facehugger) which sort of resembles space jockeys face for some reason.

Man, the space jockey room in Prometheus looks like shit compared to the one in Alien lol. That first picture is a beaut.

maybe the chair transitions to a higher level or spins like other captians chairs. the star chamber picture does match up to the chamber in alien. plus i cant figure out how "its changing" fits it, possibly to the head

@biomechanic and everyone else I think this issue keeps popping up because of different definitions of "prequel." The purpose of the movie isn't to explain what happened in Alien, which is how Lindeloff and Scott define prequel, that's why they're saying it's not a prequel. However, it will give us an idea of what might have caused the evidence found in Alien. That's basically what Ridley has said. He also said it barely has Alien DNA in it. Anyway I am personally more interested in the new story as opposed to the old one, but it will be interesting to see how they do it. I think it's going to be a far less interesting part of the story when compared to the path of the larger story and the questions it leaves us with. Even if it doesn't give us a concrete answer concerning the original SJ and derelict, I think most of us will be more interested in the questions relating to the new story.

It'll be a trilogy Prometheus, Prometheus II and Alien

@blake_84...i doubt the SJ rapes anyone. i will agree however that Ive noticed that, from what I could see, the "chair room" in the prometheus trailer doesnt fit the one from alien to a T. and again, the SJ seen in the prometheus trailer's seems smaller sitting in the chair than the one they find in alien. its a forgone conclusion that its not the same ship, right? if we're assuming that it crashes back down on the same planet this movie takes place on, unlesss it takes back off, the derelict in alien is a different ship...where that ship comes from is the mystery, correct?

@yhms: i do believe that the sj rapes shaw i dont think thats the real sj face. if you look slow mo at the imax trailer the suit seems to be moving and shifiting around him. the helmet clamping on him on the chair. i think thatd make sense for shaw getting preg. and starting that DNA chain

They're are 5 temples and possibly 5 ships on LV-223. The one we see crashing doesn't look like the derelict from Alien BUT the ship seen in the IMAX trailer underground and a few other shots looks pretty damn spot on.

@CantSpaceJockTheRock Actually, I'm pretty sure Ridley said sequels would not be prequels to Alien. They would delve deeper into the new story and answer the larger questions that are left unanswered at the end of this movie. I think this is as close as we're going to get to a prequel to Alien. From what I understand, Alien is a small branch of a much larger, more important (in Ridley's opinion), and more interesting story.

its definately a human suit, whether or not its a human inside the suit is a different story.

@dopelganger Off course this movie is not going to be based on Alien, not directly not every aspect, its going to give a back ground story to the Bio Mechanical Space Jockeys, and the kinds of Technology they have and Gene Manipulation/bio Forming. A sequence of events could lead to how the Xeno well the progenitor to the Xeno was created. Ridley said that the movie will link to Alien well it will have links to the events at the start of Alien but not be a film directly about Xenos. He said there would be no Xeno, by that he could mean we would not see the fully formed Xeno Organism. [img]http://collider.com/wp-content/image-base/Movies/A/Alien/alien_xenomorph_02.jpg[/img] We most likely will not even see the Face Hugger from Alien, and maybe not even the Eggs (however i think that we could see them as the suprise that will please Alien fans at the end). As i have said Ridley and co have mentioned a few things recently. 1) The last 12-8 minutes will tie in with Alien 2) We will see in those last moments definate Alien DNA by that i think they will show something that will we will make a direct connection with Alien Xeno Cycle. 3) The movie will be about how the Mommy meets Daddy. 4) That when you see any Rolling Stones Concert you would expect them to play a certain hit record even as just a encore. That tells me while we have all these differnt Alien Organisms we seen in Trailers and we may be able to see some traces of DNA, we will see at the end of the movie a Organism or something that is directly linked to Alien. But it wont be a fully formed Xeno.

As far as the scene with the tear in the suit and the Eel like creature getting inside. The colour is the same as the Space Jockey, and if what you say is correct that would explain how something chest bursted out of the Jockey in Alien. However where would Shaws Baby Squid fit in with this? Is the creation of the Xeno as simple as Worm infects Space Jockey? And changes them different to they do with us? Nope i would say that scene is a crewmember and my money is on Fifield. [img]http://www.prometheus-movie.com/uploads/prometheus_newhd_1.jpg[/img] Look at the Elbow joint on Vickers Suit... Whats more is look at the fingers in that scene where the Organism gets into the tear, look at the glove that goes to cover up the tear.... now look at Fifields Gloves in this picture. [img]http://www.heyuguys.co.uk/images/2012/04/Prometheus-13.jpg[/img] Now look finally at this image... [img]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-3RITbewXRgM/Tu-jUGTbZaI/AAAAAAAAARY/GEwYZ3AvWzQ/s1600/prometheus_teaser_17.jpg[/img] I am going for that the above image occurs right after the part when that Organism gets inside the tear. Note the Space Suit in that image looks darker because the scene is darker.

The arm is smoking too like after an acid attack. I didn't think it was human, but the glove looks like it is trying to stop the pink penis. So, it does look like a human being infected. There is also the unexplained scene with the crew member raising their arms as they enter the hangar. It was like, no I am not dangerous. I expect all hell to break loose after this person is allowed on board. Also, there is a scene with all three vehicles returning to the ship. Maybe someone was left for dead and returns as a Trojan horse. There is also the comment of one actress dying 28 minutes into the film. She says tall guys in bone suits terrorize the crew on their ship. This may be a red herring because the ship looks torn apart, and that may be too soon for it to happen in the movie. That said, I saw a picture of an open SJ suit and a blue guy walking to it. They were about the same size. It may have been a photoshop by a fan though. Also, in the link to pictures shown earlier, a crew member is on the Prometheus and the caption says it is Guy Pierce. It resembles him a lot, but it is hard to tell. At any rate, it isn't an old Wayland and it isn't the Wayland from the TED talks. Has Wayland been resurrected into an android?

@bigdave yea that would make sense. I forgot about that picture at the bottom. It just might be burning him. You can see brain, and skull.

@thefacehead, I know what you mean they do state in the orig that the bones look bent outwards which is why when my friend told me the Sj is attacjed by another creature called the Deacon ( due to its Mitre like head which it uses to force its way into his chest, they all seem to derive from squid or octopi in base appearance ) I had to get him to repeat it. perhaps the theory that this isnt the same Sj as the orig may have some weight . I dont expect to see any Facehuggers in this so what I have heard maybe the Deacon is the Prototype Facehugger?. I know Trolls are going to say I aint a Troll. I know guys in the Physical FX Department as well as people at MPC. I only pass on what I have heard as it seems to be a free for all regarding what theories people believe or not, i trust the guy enough to pass on what I have heard as fact in the hope people will find it interesting. I enjoy the speculation as mad as some of the suggestions are, we shall find out soon enough if I have been lied to. ;-)