Ridley Scott Ends 33+ year debate over Derelict & Eggs !
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Spartacus
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please hit the link above it will take you to the thread "NightRiderLoveProvider" made today and then click on his link at the top or copy and paste it to see the interview and see and hear the reveal about halfway though it.
In the interview link above from that thread earlier today Ridley Scott ended a 33+ year debate on how the eggs got below the Derelict and How the Jockey died.
He said the Eggs were Cargo, The Derelict did not crash it was forced to Land because one of the cargo eggs, yes he said definitively the Eggs were Cargo and one of the eggs let loose a creature that developed inside that ship and killed him, The Jockey from within..
Completely and 100% definitely ending a 33+ year debate over it all !!!
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abordoliApril 25, 2012
I believe that the alien that got the SJ died not long after. The queen in the movie Aliens originated from the infestation caused by Newt's dad (well Burke's irresponsible request to have it checked without giving any warning of potential bio-organism danger).

mlb127April 25, 2012
Very cool!!So of course,the next question/mystery is what happened to the initial creature that came out of the SJ? Also,is it the Queen in Aliens?
CBT1979April 25, 2012
Good. Because i never liked the
Idea that the egg chamber would
Not be part of the derelict.
somehow the SJ was unaware
and got infected by one facehugger
And died through the chest bursting.
I can only imagine that that alien
must have been bigger than the
Ones using human to breed.

SpartacusApril 25, 2012
and thus the size of the hole on the side of the hull! "SnorkelBottom" is going to freak out !!!

shambsApril 25, 2012
WOW! Finally an official response from the hand of Ridley, thanks for posting it Spartacus!
and I hope to see this xeno / jockey is Prometheus, would be truly EPIC!!!

FrantzApril 25, 2012
however now he have to show that .... otherwise remain a Ridley speculation made after the movie . Prometheus witll give us the facts too ? We will see ... he said too much to leave unanswered questions ...

SpartacusApril 25, 2012
I watched the interview but it was "NightRiderLoveProvider" that gave us all the link I just watched the interview thoroughly and noticed what everyone else apparently did not in that thread.
It's about halfway through!
And he clearly ended the debate forever!!!
KUDOS "LOVEPROVIDER" !!!
abordoliApril 25, 2012
This has been my stance ever since I first saw it. I'm glad I was on the right side of the debate. The only thing I didn't know for sure was whether it was "crash" or "forced-landing" not knowing how much abuse the derelict could take in said situation.

SvanyaApril 25, 2012
FINALLY.. Goddamn that man took his sweet freaken' time to fix some loose ends... Also, good to know the SJ sent the distress signal.
*(Oh and look at the red suit in the background! :P)
Bishop is Bae <3

SpartacusApril 25, 2012
the whole thing is so wonderful to finally know for sure. I am glowing with Joy.


SpartacusApril 25, 2012
i am so happy I am ready to embrace the fact that he implied indirectly that there are more than one derelict ship!
I may have been wrong about there being only one and I don't care I am so happy !!!
[b]wrong wrong wrong spartacus Hooray[/b] !!!
sukkalApril 25, 2012
I’m glad this is the case because it syncs with the reality of the the way the space was designed and the "moisture barrier"/"warning system" in which the laser light is a factor in 1979. Someone had said earlier that Ridley referred to the eggs as "cargo" in a making-of video. I'm very pleased that this is the backstory. It also points to the Engineers as "fallible," which I find very refreshing.
It seems possible to me that the SJ might have know that s/he had been impregnated and was rushing somewhere to seek a remedy as well.
Does anyone recall if Kane completely remembered what had happened to him in terms of his having been used by the face hugger? Is it possible (or even canonical) that the hugger secreted something that affected his short term memory so that he may simply be disoriented after the hugger crawled off and unaware that there was a xeno embryo inside him? Certainly Ash knew. But, did Ash ask Kane outright if he remembered anything? I've ordered that blu-ray, but it won't be here until 01 May.
artyohApril 25, 2012
Yeah, I figured the huge space was [i]supposed[/i] to be part of the ship, because it had repeating structural elements....... but where they entered at the center of the "croissant," also never seemed to jive with the directon in which the space curves around to the right, [i]then back to the left[/i] in background. It always seemed to me, it should only have curved back and to the right........but then again, all that empty hollow space also doesn't jive with the apparent configuration of the "croissant" in "Prometheus."

SpartacusApril 25, 2012
No, Kane never did, all we got from him was that he remembered..."Some Horrible dream about smothering"

SpartacusApril 25, 2012
@sukkal
I bumped this topic so you could reply easier!
I answered your question I think.

craigamoreApril 25, 2012
I'm glad to see you're not so horrifed by that two ship concept anymore Spartacus...you were very Hulk like in your anger...

CypherApril 25, 2012
Time to watch the original. Again :-P
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SpartacusApril 25, 2012
Me too man, Me too...
SING IT RINGO !!!
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SpartacusApril 25, 2012
[quote]I'm glad to see you're not so horrifed by that two ship concept anymore Spartacus...you were very Hulk like in your anger...[/quote]
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What bothered me about it is that that ship IMO is so Incredibly Unique that this sullies the uniqueness...never the less, it is Ridley's Piece to play with not mine and I have to accept it now! All the same I am sure he found a way to make that work...it's just that for 33+ years that Ship has been like a LOVER of mine. It is like finding out the Girl you thought was one of kind is actually a
Frikkin' LOL...[b]"REPLICANT"[/b]

craigamoreApril 25, 2012
I get that...with all this new info and especially the skull dome shot, I couldn't me more excited...again...
GuestApril 25, 2012
Nice to see Ridley talking one on one, opening up somewhat, although I still have reservations about facts after the fact. I'm more inclined to take the film as it was when I saw it, but I can understand reasons why he has brought this out now.
artyohApril 25, 2012
Spartacus, I'd been wondering why you seemed so bummed out by the "2 ships" eventuality, and now I finally get it. You wanted it to be a one-off......probably because the original design [i]is[/i] so original, and well,........[i]alien[/i]. I can understand why that bothered you.
Revisiting what were once intriguing unknowns, runs the risk of eliminating them......but I imagine that for every mystery explained, at least a couple of new questions will be raised. There's no need to dot every i or cross every last t of expositional plausibility, when you're dealing with what could easily appear to us, just like magic.
Actually, we've already seen an example of that in the scene where the SJ ship slams into the ground, but doesn't essentially disintegrate into bits and pieces. There's absolutely no way we could build anything that large capable of surviving such an impact and remaining intact.

SpartacusApril 25, 2012
so very well said Artyoh, I could not agree any more than I do, the obsession has allowed my Ego and my love of this franchise and Scott & Giger and the late great Dan O'Bannon to run rampant with innuendo and speculation and hopes of these little details panning out exactly the way My Ego and I want them to be and because you guys are all so smart and call everyone on everything speculative and therefore am learning to keep myself in better check and just appreciate that is happening at all, because it truly is Their Gift, to us all, for our love and appreciation of the Franchise and the Film that started all of this. And it is Their Baby, not mime, best thing for me, Is to strap myself in and just enjoy the ride!!!

SpartacusApril 25, 2012
you were always on top of things Big "N" ! and It's Awesome to see you on so late at night!
NeurionApril 25, 2012
Thanks Spatacus!
I admire your passion. I remember the first time I read and responded to one of your posts on this site. Ahhhhh...only 43 day to go. Goodtimes!
~N
NeurionApril 25, 2012
@Spartacus
Check out my most recent topic, and tell me what you think...even if you think it's lame.
Thanks,
~N

SpartacusApril 25, 2012
remind what I was ranting about LOL....Tx Neurion, was hoping you could write a little something about yourself in your personal profile page so I could learn more about how that mind of yours works without you knowing about it, LOL!!!

Kane77April 26, 2012
ok, then Scott just has to explain HOW this huge rooms fit into the original derelict...
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belladonnaApril 26, 2012
i have 3 answers for this that no one can ever argue with, choose one or all.
1. a wizard did it.
2. star trek time space fluctuation, no more explanation necessary.
3. the space ship has a portal to the creepy ghetto south side of Narnia.
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centrosphereApril 26, 2012
I´m with artyoh and Kane77 on this.
Scott´s talk now is an adjustment to the needs of the new story he wants to tell. There is no way the huge egg´s chamber could be part of the derelict (I proved that in an early post using the measurements someone calculated about the Derelict and egg´s chamber sizes), and we know that it was there only because the Fox´s suits redlighted the "pyramid" scenario from O´Bannon script.

GavinApril 26, 2012
correction there is no natural way the chamber is part of the Derelict, unnaturally on the other hand its very possible... just like the TARDIS in Doctor Who.

belladonnaApril 26, 2012
i hope that means you are on my side here snorkel
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centrosphereApril 26, 2012
Snorkelbottom,
I do agree, but observe that nothing in "Alien" mithology give hints of this kind of technology happening. This would be a huge departure of the "canon", since the "Alien" franchise happens to be very "naturalistic" in style.

GavinApril 26, 2012
of course BD, Ridley says - its a bomber carrying a cargo of eggs, one of which hatches and hugs the SJ pilot, forcing him to land and send out a distress call - therefore it is.
We have our official confirmation of events, end of story.

belladonnaApril 26, 2012
sooo.... does that mean
1. wizard
2. star trek
3. narnai
or
4. you cant agree with one to make the reply as unfunny as possible
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GavinApril 26, 2012
Naturalistic in style, dont think so...
Bio-mechanic, host eliminating aliens.
FTL travel with no time dilation.
Synthetics mistaken for humans.
acid for blood.
No heat effect upon entering a planets atmosphere.
...the list goes on. Ridley has given us the facts, just like he did with the suit (eliminating arguments about fossilization, though they still continue), for those that have trouble with those facts just fill in the gaps with whatever theory you want.
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