human already on the planet

Now what makes you theorize that there is human already on the planet, exactly?

What if the guy in the second image is also a SJ and we don't have much footage to verify differences/similarities?

@abordoli... "if these holograms are in fact logs stumbled across by David and friends, that there was, and maybe still is, a human on the planet, and had already had an incident" if the holograms are a LOG, than its a record of something that already happened. thats what we've theorized the presence of the holograms to be (majority anyhow). the "where were they going" when you see them running suggests it.

Yep...a hologram log of sorts....and yep again on people, lots of people...humans taken there willingly, treated with benevolence...many ages lived there in a lush world..when the Baldies appeared to die, many structures were built around the high tech artifacts left behind...probably explained by the writings David is reading.

I'm open to speculation. It is possible there might have been a diferent expedition to the planet [great for a hidden plot within the plot].

i think people just need to sit tight, wind each other up (gently), and wait. 23 days now, am going to have the day off and go to the fist available showing :-)

maybe its not a hologram at all, or a made up log, maybe its technology we kow nothing about, like how he gets around the ship so fast? no one knows.

Logic says its a SJ, probably from the same shot as they run past David .....look at the size of them compared to the tunnel

@NoxWord... clearly we dont have "much" footage. what "do" you see? something running by itself, that in no way, other than being a hologram, looks like the images of the SJ's. at least i dont see any similarities. are you saying it "does" look like a SJ, or just asking me why i think it doesnt? i mentioned it in the other thread, but i cant capture it, but it looks reminiscent of the shot from Davids POV of crew members running in front of him. im speculating. tell me where im wrong and ill listen.

@Windood...clearly we wont figure out whats behind this movie till we see it, but we're going to speculate, thats just how it is man. @JP...logic says everything but that to me. theres three of them in the other shot, there running rigid while this guy is leaning into it like a person would who's really digging deep, and they dont seem the same size to me.

I see several Jockeys depicted running in that log

Pretty sure it's one of the blue guys. Same build, bare hands, I can make out some of the costume details. People adopt different running alignment depending on their purpose, emotional state. Someone scrambling to get the hell out of some bad situation doesn't run like they would if they were just tyring to get some where on time. The guys in the SJ suits look they are wearing baggier suits than the form fitting outfit of the other guy, but that could just be because of the low image resolution. Not a human, unless someone on a previous crew was a bodybuilder.

man, i'm all alone on this huh. take a look at the shot of Shaw (at least thats what I assume) standing in front of the Juggernaut as its standing upright either taking off or crashing (if its crashing she's being awfully calm). the build of the suit is very similar...46 seconds in. [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=AXLzJhZa8PY#t=45s]Your text to link here...[/url]

and i should have worded my hypothesis differently...it looks like one of the suits like the crew of the Prometheus is wearing. i see no similarities to the SJ in that hologram. SJ's looking gangily with longer heads/helmets. this guys stockier with a bubble shaped head/helmet.

Could it be a holo log from the Prometheus crew itself if they take multiple trips into the temple? We could be seeing 2 different play backs from 2 very different times.

@CantSpace...that we could. im considering the more simple circumstance of a complicated situation. the point im trying to make is that it appears to me to be a human, or at least one of the suits similar to what the crew of the promo wears.

if the suit is the same/similar as the one from the Prometheus then: 1. Somebody got there before with an unknown Heliades ship that was secretly funded by Weyland alone (it seems that there are no other ships, apart from the Heliades, capable of FTL speed) 2. It's a temporal loop (god forbid!) 3. David discovers the holo-camera and tries some shots for fun

Game: For all that I can tell it seems like an SJ, friend. But I could be wrong... so wrong...

personally i'm not on here for who's right and who's wrong (and i'm not suggesting anyone else is either). I joined to get a few extra bits of info and to figure out what was going on in the youtube trailers. But eventually found i actually enjoyed the banter with the misfits, vagabonds and ne'er do wells that comprise this forum. I'll be happy as larry if everyones wrong and we see a totally different context to all that are speculated so far. Unlikely, but that would be a perfect win. The only thing i wondered about in the running image was why bits are missing of him. Our hologram technology is better than that, so i don't see it as a hologram recording at all, i imagine superbeings would have better than grainy old crappy holograms. i always thought it was some kind of transportation thingy. Who knows.

@NoxWord...yeah, maybe David says "does the suit make my ass look big?" during this scene. like i said in the other thread, if im having my company do stuff that i dont want people to know about, than im not going to include it on the website, am I?

It's obvious! They're (dimensionally) out of phase. It's a higher dimensional, advanced species thing - you wouldn't understand. The snorkle guys re-materialise in their orrery room and kick bald, blue ass!!!

Windood: yeah, In the end it really doesn't matter who is right or not. And, like you, I enjoy the overall discussion. It's great to see how people think.

@Windood that's right man, people need to relax, wait and see and shut their pie holes! I like many others have waited almost 30 years to finally see a movie like this and I say to you my friends that it's just a little longer the sunrise it's just near the horizon.

Shaw's suit doesn't have bare hands, and the gloves on the crews' suits don't look like they are easy to remove, and for what purpose? And their suits are fitted, but a little loose, unlike the sculpted look of this running man. And it looks like there is a cleft in the area of the spine, just like the engineer's have. And the blue guys aren't gangley, they're built like NFL players, just like this guy running away. Look at the legs, back, and deltoids. Guy's been powerlifting or something.

strongly believe that Peter Weyland has been on planet with another David synthetic via an earlier expedition, and brings prometheus expedition to planet to give more "hosts" to the engineers and have a way back to earth with his hard saught immortality. but eveything goes to sh**. ---and i believe that the Peter Weyland on earth---is a synthetic!

I think this is what recordings from the floating red scanner balls look like, hence the three dimensions and lack of color. While that could be a suited human, it is a member of the crew that arrived with the Prometheus. The three SJs could be what he's running from.

They're using the weyland modular computing device as seen on the tech tab on weyland site. Read the description.

It's under the electronics tab. Pardon me

I kinda agree that the second Holo is of a human and the image is from the records, so that indicates that a human (Weyland maybe) had been there before and caused problems. They obviously have a human head in the Temple placed in front of the urns, indicating that they are sacrificial (the wiring around the head to keep them in place, markings with ritualistic script). Are we the breeding grounds/species for their experiments? When Weyland escaped the 1rst time, they followed him and crashed on LV-426. Weyland is returning? Maybe some of this is true?

Now, I do agree that humans might have been on LV-223 for the SJs certainly could have taken back willing visitors on their way back from trips to meddle with Earth cultures. I think somebody else mentioned this. I'm just posting to state that I agree with that possibility.

Same guy

The dude running away looks like either a human in a suit (maybe a bigger, older school suit) or maybe the/a blue/grey guy sans suit. It could be Prometheus himself for all I know.

If you watch this slow-mo (if it works, it's been acting weird on my pc) here: [url=http://i41.tinypic.com/6s3srk.gif/]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LqA1rHtapo[/url] and start watching at the 9:49 marks, it looks like the running figure is wearing a symmetric looking backpack. Looks like a human(oid) in a space suit IMO (doesn't really rule out the blue dude though).

one is running in a cave. the others are running on the ship.

Leaving aside the holographic ship's log for a moment ('cause I don't find it to be convincing evidence, either way)... The idea that the Engineers brought ancient humans to LV-456 (and neighboring planetoids) is fascinating speculation. If it were true, then you'd have to wonder how many of the bio-engineered organisms the Prometheus crew finds there have traces of human ancestry. Creepy.

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To me it could be a Engineer/Jockey from behind and at the poor quality of the Hologram we cant make out if its a snout trout... then again it could be a Engineer without his mask etc. Again yes being a Human can not be ruled out untill you see the movie, as is many other things. I had a theory that mankind had set foot on the planet before and maybe its there tampering that unleashed the Cobra things, as i cant see the Engineers leaving them to run about, i am sure they know and understand whats in the Urns and how to contain them. This could explain why the Engineer would be unhappy at seeing another Human mission to their planet LV223 and then decide that it looks like us Humans are just gonna keep comming and so only conclusion now is to wipe us all out. But the only thing against that theory is a lack of Human Remains and more so any Human Ships on the Surface.

So is it being theorized that the animated image of a holo figure running away might be a human from a time past? The helmet certainly seems Terran.

Who knows but the guy does look big compared to the Cave System have a look at one of the images where we see David just before we see the Ghost Jockeys run past. I would still put money on it being a Engineer/Jockey. But untill we see the movie we just dont know, i mean the Space Jockeys could be the Cobra Things in Suits and the Big Guy a mutated Holloway for all we know.... I dont think so, but untill we see the movie well you cant say for sure its 100% just one race etc. I think 100% they are the same i.e Water Fall Guy, Space Jockey and Blue Guy they are all the Engineer.

It's the round spacesuit looking dome that is perplexing me in the above animated picture of the holo-dude running away.