Spot the difference?

Maybe they're just design changes for the new film made to fit the story better. Maybe RS wanted the SJs to be more human like so the arms aren't long. I don't mind if every single detail isn't accounted for. How could a human fit in an SJs suit?

I guess I am the first person pointed out both SJ not same. The one in ALIEN is the great great great grand parent for the current SJ we saw in Prometheus. Please use your imagination picture this. Mammoth vs. Elephant Megalodon vs. Great White Big foot vs. Human Evolution made us smaller. :)

Maybe since its 2012 not 1979 RS is polishing things a bit ...it might be the same ...but are we over ANALysing things , can we not just ride along with the story and enjoy it without detailing every nut and bolt? Jeezo!

I say human....but who??

Though nothing will be confirmed until the film is released, I believe it to be common knowlege...though officially still speculation....that the ship from the original alien film and the images we see in the prometheus trailer are not one in the same. Many of the distinctions between the two can also be attributed to different times. The newer images may very well be the same. There are screen shots which give clearer where there are cyro beds in the same room which arent present in original. The arm lenght difference.....which other images indicate this can be some sort of mutation. The elongated limbs. The trunk being a different length, which indicates nothing since we dont get a chance to witness the full sequence of the chair conforming to the indiviual sitting there.

It's Shaw. The crew gets picked off. Janek crashes the ship at Shaw's urging. Vickers bails and joins Shaw on the surface, before getting squished by the crashing ship. Shaw climbs aboard the derelict after it crashes, dispatches the pilot and hops into his chair. We already know she's 'infected,' so the SJ we see in ALIEN is her, having sent the barely decipherable warning beacon and given birth to something while still grafted into the chair. Also I think the chair deploys parts which surround and secure the occupant. Other parts do actually grow around the occupant over longer periods of time.

Well, definitely the space tapir of Prometheus is more smaller than the Space Jockey original. My thoughts on this are: 1) It is a human or android inside of the suit (perhaps Vickers, Shaw or David) Why? maybe to escape of the planet and return to Earth or simply to make use of technology (the fire of the gods) and may pay a high price for it as a punishment. 2) The engineer is smaller (as the difference between a God and Titan) Could be sacrificed Engineer Who knows?

@Thadus12: keep in mind, that with this image, there is no human figure to compare it to in this image the scale of this new Jockey could be accurate, perhaps in the context of the film it will all make some sense(?) you may also note, the Juggernaut craft that was in the initial trailers that most of us have scrutinized to a fault, no longer looks as sleek and detailed as it looks in the latest trailers. i am bummed about that, but it is far beyond my control ah well...

I´m dissapointed if RS wont explain the other tapir with long arms in the last 8 minutes of Prometheus.. it may be just another race of tapir, ok, ..hm.. well..and its just a suit..ok, well..yeah..right

fanboy79: "the ship from the original alien film and the images we see in the prometheus trailer are not one in the same" I agree

Great Shots now i can get to work with the theory i had before and when i said the Jockeys are not that far off in size... Now i estimated the size of the Chair in Alien to be 16ft using Kane and Dallas, which gave me a 12ft Jockey.... If the Chair was 16ft in Prometheus gives us a 9ft Jockey but upto 10ft if we consider he is more slouched down in the chair. The 4 suits on the walls in one of the latest images again looks to be 9-10ft tall. Now onto those images, i tried to make a point that a number dismissed, and that if you compare parts of the chair to the heads, then the difference is the same near enough.... [img][IMG]http://i46.tinypic.com/f41rmf.jpg[/IMG][/img] Here just uploaded, compare the circled parts.... You will see that the size of those parts compared to the Pilots is the same, this shows the Jockey is the same size to the chair in some sence, just the Alien one has much longer arms and can reach the what looks like Joysticks. But then the Prometheus one has his arms bent and not straight. Oh your main focus should be the size of circled parts compared to the head.... If you do that, some parts actually apear to be smaller to the head in the Prometheus shot thus potentially meaning the Head is bigger, or the parts are smaller. Also notice in top circled part there is another part just above the head in Prometheus thats not in Alien, this is because the Pilot in Alien has his head more up close to the head rest as opposed to slouched in Prometheus. The biggest dilema is the length of the Arms, the Alien ones ratio is longer than a Humaniods, the Prometheus ones is shorter than a humaniods but thats because his arms are bent. So i assume the difference is 2ft tops, and that the Alien one may have arms that are about 1ft longer....

And the arms of the new version are very short and in the old Space Jock we can see some really long arms, also has no legs... Lately I'm thinking the Original Derlict see it as a flashback holographic (or the beginning of the time) Since the same Ridley Scott said that the Derelict had millions of years stranded on LV-426 then this new pilot and his ship are different characters in fact. On the other hand may be getting different design like trying to compare the costumes of the crew of the Nostromo with the crew of the Prometheus ... (mine vs. scientists)

Scott said the Derelict made an emergency landing instead on Prometheus we see the ship crash. Therefore they are different ships with different pilots... By the way, good analysis @BigDave

I think yes that the Derelict in Prometheus that we have seen so far, does not land on LV426..... the biggest clue is not the size of the Jockeys as that image i posted should show its not as big a difference as some first thought, neither is it how the Ship looks less Organic.. The main difference is that there is no sarcophagus in Alien, if this is the same ship then when and how did they go, unless Ridley is going a bit like some of the differences and changes from The Thing and its prequel i,e the prequel they dont show the ship being blown up out of the ice... I would assume that if we do get to see the scene that links Alien and it shows us the Derelict that lands on LV426 before the S!$"$ hits the fan and the Jockey gets done for... I think it would show the Jockey and Derelict to be more like the Prometheus one than the Alien one but intended to be the same.

@Kane77 Please contribute to the debate (it would be more productive especially taking in count that this is a forum)

Prometheus can be a reboot, spin-off or the prequel to the prequel Who knows? adn It is possible some of the mystery continues.

Definitely think it's a human suiting up due to the size difference. i shall eat my words if I am wrong but I hold fast to this idea.

@shambhala [i]yes, father. my god tapir. [/i] ;) BigDave has pointed it out well..and if u dont like my opinion I am free to post ..well

[img]http://www.bloodygoodhorror.com/bgh/files/imagecache/feature_img/space%20jockey.jpg[/img] [size=1][i]Image fixed courtesy of: abordoli (staff)[/i][/size] Really interesting analysis from you all. The link above shows the original jockey from 1979 prior to its 'final fix' A good pic for comparatives I thought.

@mikydisco yeah the arm alone has human size.. interesting, how alien and strange the original JS [i]still[/i] is..