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Read this if you are in doubt about Prometheus

ElephantMan

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1. It's a sci fi directed by Ridley Scott, director of Blade Runner and Alien. 2. The best cast of the past 20 years at least. 3. The creator of Lost has helped to write it. 4. Brand new artwork by the genius H.R. Giger will appear in the film. 5. Ridley Scott has promised a shocking scene on par with the Alien chestburster sequence. 6. The first sci fi in a long time to go heavily into the use of practical sets, last seen on Star Wars: Empire Strikes Back. 7. The CGI is by the same people who brought us the amazingly realistic visuals of Avatar and Tintin. 8. Best trailer of all time. 9. It will be the scariest thing you will ever see. Reviewers will be so stunned by this masterpiece, that they will either love it or hate it, I call this the fight or flight review response, they did it with Alien, Blade Runner, Fight Club, 2001: A Space Odyssey, Donnie Darko, Requiem For A Dream, Eternal Sunshine Of The Spotless Mind, Minority Report and many, many more. So don't go reading any reviews, you know this film will be good, I know this film will be good, you don't want the negativity of a bitter old fool who failed at the film industry to affect your view of art, do you? Let's enjoy this, it could be the last artistic science fiction film you will ever see, excluding the Blade Runner sequel of course. Thank you Ridley Scott. [img]http://www.geekosystem.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/hr-giger-alienderelictcockpit-550x401.jpg[/img]
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Xenotron
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Well, I guess I'll keep you company while you're waiting for your commission check to show up...
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are you ON crack .. i think i said this last weekend OH YA , i didnt read it
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all I know Is I don't know how I am going manage to see this as many times as I think I'm going to want to in the theater....
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I never go by what a reviewer says, they usually have no idea what they are talking about..

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@ElephantMan Precisely. Someone on YouTube expressed his worry about a Blade Runner sequel by saying "Star Wars eps 1-3". But Star Wars is its own type of sci-fi, and it has always had its quirks and corny elements, all of which make it what it is. Sir Ridley has his own approach to sci-fi movies. I'm sure Prometheus is going to be just fine... ....but I will say that if they're going to tackle a Blade Runner movie in the near future, they need to do the right thing and bring back Vangelis to direct the music, synthesizers and all. Part of what defined Blade Runner was his score, even if I just say so myself....someone responded to my post of that on YouTube, in which he said "Either bring him back or don't do a Blade Runner sequel at all." Extreme as that sounds, I can share his sentiments.
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Oh, there it is... [img]http://www.automaticinternetincome.com/images/check.png[/img] Prometheus will probably be a cool movie. We won't know until we see it. But seriously, Alien and Blade Runner are over 20 years old and times have changed; even Ridley Scott acknowledges that. All the interviews, trailers, commercials, rumors, features, and the like are all just hype. Fox is selling this movie as best as they know how by letting Prometheus ride Alien's coattails so-to-speak. Just remember that hype is just hype; it's there to get you to buy a friggin' ticket and that's all.
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One thing's for sure without question, Prometheus will be the best movie of the sci-fi action/horror genre released in the last 10 years. Name me one movie of that category made recently that can even come close to being called a "good" or even a "great" movie. There are none or very few, none that I can remember first hand anyways. Prometheus is important regardless of whether or not its better or as good as "Alien" simply because its the fans (us) finally being given what we've been asking for; an original mastermind behind one of the many screen gems that we hold in high regard (to this day) against all the sheit that has come after it, that's been torn to shreds by the remake extravaganza hollywood's been on up till now, returning to the series and setting the record straight, showing all the posers how its done and re-establishing the status quo for the original idea (in the cinematic world of CGI, Hi Def, and 3-D which we live in now). I just wish James Cameron would make me love the Terminator again but that's a different topic for a different forum...
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1. It's a sci fi directed by Ridley Scott, director of Blade Runner and Alien. And of mostly forgettable drek like 'American Gangster', 'A Good Year', 'GI Jane', '1492', 'Hannibal', and the deeply racist, propaganda war porn of 'Blackhawk Down'. 2. The best cast of the past 20 years at least. Theron and Fassbender are both top grade. I love Rapace, but she's only done one Hollywood film and it was abysmal - the Sherlock Holmes sequel. Rest of the cast of are relative unknowns, Stringer Bell and Tom Hardly-lite excepted, mostly because they all die horribly or melt before they get to chew much scenery. 3. The creator of Lost has helped to write it. That's a recommendation? Lost was writing for tv at its worst - incoherent making-stuff-up-as-they-went-along, a complete lack of coherence and continuity, and an abysmal, cheating, sleight-of-hand ending. 4. Brand new artwork by the genius H.R. Giger will appear in the film. Reudi also did 'Species', 'Poltergeist II' and 'Killer Condom'. Barf. 5. Ridley Scott has promised a shocking scene on par with the Alien chestburster sequence. Which has been hinted at in 600 trailers. Audiences are far more sophisticated than in 1979. We have grown up with hundreds of schlock gore movies. 6. The first sci fi in a long time to go heavily into the use of practical sets, last seen on Star Wars: Empire Strikes Back. A refreshing sign, but neither here nor there. There's a word for movies that are all set and no story - 'rubbish'. 7. The CGI is by the same people who brought us the amazingly realistic visuals of Avatar and Tintin. CGI overkill is a disease. CGI effectiveness is a direct function of budget. CGI is increasingly used to disguise poor storytelling, or replace storytelling completely. And Tintin sucked shit. 8. Best trailer of all time. Don't you mean best 27 trailers of all time? A trailer for a trailer? 'Pretentious, moi?' 9. It will be the scariest thing you will ever see. Says someone who apparently has invented time travel. Still, I appreciate your post. And I think I'll love Prometheus. But I'll post the praise *after* I've seen it. Trust the product, not the propaganda.
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@xenotron True. But Sir Ridley has directed Movies and been involved in projects recently (last 10 years) that by no means come up short i.e. Gladiator. F****n' badass flick. And a great MOVIE. American Gangster anyone? I'm biast on that, (Grew up in the same city as Denzel Washingtons role)
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[i]Just remember that hype is just hype; it's there to get you to buy a friggin' ticket and that's all.[/i] ....and the movie theatre's $7 large-pop-corn and $4 coke.
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Hey man, I'm not saying it's going to be terrible and I'm not saying that it's going to be great. I don't know; I haven't seen it, but I will see it. All I'm saying is this: this sort of thing–revisiting a franchise from 20 years ago–has gone wrong before. I'm not going to gush about Ridley Scott or issue any praise (or disdain) until I see the movie.
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"....and the movie theatre's $7 large-pop-corn and $4 coke." Yeah, that too, but that's up to the theatre (or as we spell "across the pond," "theater") to get you to buy that crap. Wow, I guess I am cynical...
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Not as cynical as some. :)
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Well Sir Scott said he was trying to actually get AWAY from the whole ALIEN franchise. A different direction. LOLZ i just have super high hopes really :)
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In all fairness to ElephantMan, a number of the points posted above are subjective opinion: [i]Best Cast List of the past 20 years[/i] - okay, but compared to what, and compared to whom? Charlize Theron has proved herself certainly capable of hardcore, heavy hitting [i]acting[/i] ("[i]Monster?[/i]" Good god, what a disturbing performance - that's what I call true acting, to completely vanish into a role like that) but of the rest of the leads & supporting cast, there are certainly any number of actors/actresses out there right now with equal chops, and some with more. I've seen Noomi Rapace's in the original GWTDT, and while she was great for that role, I'm withholding opinion on her in the role of Shaw until I actually see Prometheus. I don't think she'll necessarily be bad, but from every clip I've seen I don't get the sense that we'll have the same kind of "real people in real situations" feel from this movie that we got from the first [i]Alien[/i]. Fassbender is a very, [i]very[/i] good actor but again, there are others who are just as good as him out there. Elba and the others, all very good actors I'm sure - but there's nothing about the cast list that I can see that makes it the 'best.' It's certainly composed of better actors than AVP:R was, I'll give you that... [i]Brand new artwork by Giger[/i] - well, he also was involved in the designs for [i]Killer Condom, Poltergeist II, [/i]and[i] Species[/i], so that in and of itself isn't a guarantee of anything. [i]Best trailer of all time:[/i] totally subjective opinion. The trailers that I've seen so far have been mostly standard fare with the exception of the very [u]first[/u] one - the one without any dialogue at all. I liked the arty, impressionistic effect it achieved... very much like the original Alien trailer (and obviously intentionally so). The other ones since then though have all been pretty much standard hollywood style movie trailers. [i]It will be the scariest thing you will ever see[/i] - well, that's a pretty tall order. The world has changed a lot since [i]Alien[/i] was released in 1979. A lot of horrors have come and gone through the hallowed halls of cinema since then as well; many things that were fresh and new back then have since been done to death. And in the post 9/11 world - at least for those of us who are old enough to have unbearably vivid memories of such things - Hollywood has had to find new ways to unsettle and disturb and frighten audiences. It's very hard to scare folks with monsters and mayhem any more; in this era of films like [i]Scream[/i] and [i]Cabin in the Woods[/i], we're more often winking knowingly at our old selves, looking back nostalgically at days when the scariest thing we could think of was being stalked by a masked, knife-wielding maniac. The things that [i]do[/i] still get under people's skin these days are the things that did it back in the days before movies, before tv, perhaps even before the printed word - the primal, simple, often indefinable things that start to frighten us as children and usually never let go... but also the ones that make that horror seem just as real & immediate as the sight of a hijacked jetliner crashing into a world-famous landmark when we all saw it on television in real time, in real life. Hence the popularity of the whole "Found Footage" genre of movies; yes, it's a gimmick, but it removes that sort of 'safety screen' that we are always conscious of in the cinema and instead (at its best) puts us right there in the middle of the horror, as if we were the ones behind the eyepiece of the camcorder. Anyway, if Ridley can still tap into those primal fears - and exploit them - then I think we'll be fine, because that's really most of what made the original [i]Alien[/i] work, after all. And yes, we're all fanboys here on this forum, but that doesn't mean we're incapable of telling a great movie from a merely good one - or a flawed one. Or at least, it shouldn't. I don't know if it will live up to the (unfairly) hyped-up expectations, but as long as it's up there with Scott's better work, I'll be satisfied; and I would hope that most of the people on this forum would be, too.
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I find it ironic that Ridley Scott is trying to distance himself from Alien while also creating a parallel movie at the same time, all while Fox advertises "FROM THE DIRECTOR OF ALIEN AND BLADE RUNNER". Talk about mixed messages! I can see Ridley Scott if he were honest, "Hey, remember that thing I did? You know, that thing that you've loved for the past 30 years? Yeah, I'm tired of that. I want to go in a different direction. And stop asking me about that first thing... I said I was tired of it."
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Most of the marketing that I've seen, has been about "Bladerunner" and "Gladiator," not "Alien." I think he's trying to pull off the same thing he did the first time, which would be impossible, using exactly the same set of monsters. It will be difficult enough, with an entirely new menagerie. I think he's gone waaay out on a limb here, because he had to know going in, that expectations for this particular project would be truly epic. I give him a lot of credit for having the balls to do that. I'm also in the camp that's actually thrilled we won't be seeing exactly the same facehuggers, chestbursters, and xenos we've all now become so terribly familiar with.
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@ nysalor's first post If you're going to look at everything in the most negative way possible then good luck enjoying the film, or any other film for that matter as the production values will be so much lower. I hope you see sense and just enjoy the film for what it is, rather than moaning about what it could have been, which i'm guessing you will do whatever Ridley pulls out of the hat.
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I am sorry but... [quote]Just remember that hype is just hype; it's there to get you to buy a friggin' ticket and that's all. ....and the movie theatre's $7 large-pop-corn and $4 coke.[/quote] So...the two of you are now saying this movie is already bad because popcorn and coke are too expenssive?????????????????????? Ya know...If you think this film is going to bad that's one thing, but saying it now, let me tell you this...I am SICK OF IT...it's not just wrong it's RETARDED based on everything we know to say that. So I have started a list and each person that did this I am going to remind about it the second I see a post from them after the film praising it.
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I wasn't moaning, Elephantman, I was simply responding to some simplistic and one-sided commentary. Just as others have. And trust me, I'll have no problems enjoying the film. It's just that I trust the product, not the propaganda.

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