Alien Vs. Predator

AVP wasn't horrible it was fun! What IS annoying is when people think AVP has anything to do with Alien or Predator outside of that movie. Alien and Predator are two separate franchises that were mashed together in the sole purpose to make money. Good examples of this are: The non-canon comic book series written by Frank Miller called "RoboCop versus The Terminator" which suggests that the creation of Skynet and the Terminators was made possible due to the technology used to create RoboCop. OR the mashup, "Superman vs. the Terminator: Death to the Future" where we find Skynet forming a cross-temporal alliance with Superman's foe the Cyborg, dispatching various Terminators into the past in an attempt to eliminate Superman, Supergirl and Superboy. Hollywood used to do this all the time with movies like "Dracula VS Frankenstein" or "Abbot and Costello meet Frankenstein" Link-->[url=http://youtu.be/wGspm80jaZg]DRACULA VS. FRANKENSTEIN (1971)[/url] **((Correction; Dan O'Bannon did NOT write the story/screenplay. Thank you guys for showing me that. His biographies say he did for some stupid reason.. -____-))

"I believe the technology that humans have in the Alien movies is predator technology with a human twist" Ridley Scott's "Alien" should be the only movie that truly relates to Prometheus in any way. Predator was a completely different story line for the 20 years after Alien; and then some very evil and greedy people said "hey let's milk both of these movies at the same time for more money." please don't let AVP dilute the original alien which should be considered the pure source since it's the only other movie in the series by the same director as Prometheus

Haha, if you had AvP tied in, I feel so sorry for you on so many levels...

Finding out that AvP and Prometheus have absolutely nothing to do with each other is like finding Moses' DVD collection.

I own/ have seen all the avp movies and yes, bad, but fun! Nothing to take seriously. Unless they decided to start following the comics and have a "Dark Horse Productions" produced version of these films, they will be jst that, bad, but fun.

(Microsis):Why are there People that still want to beleave in the Mix of Alien and predator?..it is not sufficent for you what you already saw of Prometheus?..do you feel it needs something more, like a "original"storyline tied in Predator, to be more interesting?...please let it be...be without Predator.

I just see the AvP films as almost fan fic...just a bit of fun and not to be connected to any of the Alien films. @Svanya - O'Bannonn didn't write the story / screenplay for AvP or AvP:Requiem he and Ronald Shusett got writing credits from the WGA as aspects of the movie were taken from the original Alien screenplay. [url=http://www.avpoe.org/amr/html/scripts/scripts.html]See here[/url]

The AVP films were fun to watch, non-canon fun, with some cool easter eggs. (The radar in the Stryker sounding like the motion sensors was a good one) I can agree with Axl_F almost fan fic. Hell I even like the comics that Dark Horse put out.

Sorry Svanya, but Dan O'Bannon did NOT co-write AVP....... This is from an online conversation....[url=http://z8.invisionfree.com/MHVF/ar/t1164.htm]AVP: Why are O'Bannon and Shusett credited...[/url]....that references Fangoria #239 on the subject... "Dan O'Bannon discusses this in Fangoria#239. "What happened in the case of "Alien vs Predator" was complex", he says of this issue and essentially he suggests that a lot of unfilmed parts of his first screenplay were ransacked and they went for arbitration. It's an interesting and candid article." "Thanks Victor, I'll have to check that out. I do recall reading interviews with Paul Anderson where he discussed that the whole pyramid idea came from the early O'Bannon/Shusett drafts of ALIEN, so that's probably where a lot of that stemmed from." There you have it...O'Bannon DID NOT have anything direct to do with AVP.....Anderson was forced to credit O'Bannon and Shusett for that reason......... Honestly, You are right about this Svanya, AVP is nothing more than a studio cash grab monster mash up like Freddie v.s. Jason. Just because some studio shlub decides he can wring the last vestiges of profit from the wet towel remnants of an idea, doesn't make it canon. Hell, I Love the first two Dark Horse runs of 'AVP'...loved them, but never thought the universes were actually worth crossing and because someone in a studio office decided it was a good idea to line his or her pockets does not make it canon or even a good sideshow...... Also there's this......[url=http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/alien/13160/the-den-of-geek-interview-dan-obannon]The Den of Geek Interview: Dan O'Bannon[/url] [img]http://cdn-static.denofgeek.com/sites/denofgeek/files/styles/article_main_half/public/images/14852.jpg[/img] [b]Are you nervous to see the Alien, essentially your baby, evolve into storylines that are further and further away from the original universe you created?[/b] Well, I’m not nervous about it anymore. I’ve gone through the annoyance at making these silly sequels, so I didn’t really care anymore. [b]Did you have any more input into AvP2: Requiem than just your credit as having created the alien character?[/b] No, no. You’ve got to understand that Walter Hill and David Giler, who have been attached to the project from the beginning, they hate my guts. Because they’re scoundrels. They thought that by pulling a couple of fast ones that they could steal my screenplay credit from the original Alien. [b]This is where they rewrote the names of the characters in your original script?[/b] Yeah. They should have had enough experience themselves to know that that wouldn’t work, because they both had a couple of studio pictures already in their background, and they were both Writer’s Guild members, and they had been through arbitrations. The arbitrations standards are pretty clear, and they should have realised that no minor changes were gonna get them – certainly not the sole screenplay credit, which they expected, and in fact they ended up getting no screenplay credit. I don’t know – villains think as villains think; y’know – they’re stupid. When they failed to get that credit they both just flipped their lids. They’d already targeted me as a victim, meaning that I was ‘not a friend’. And then when the victim ended up not being victimised, they were just furious, just beside themselves. Walter Hill spent several years telling everybody who would listen, any journalist that he’d really written Alien and I stole his credit, until I finally got fed up and had my lawyer shut him up for good. So no, they were not about to have me involved in any of those sequels. They’re only interested in the money with those sequels, anyway. These are not artistic fellows. [b]Did you even see the first Alien Vs. Predator film[/b]? Yeah, sure, I saw it. [b]What did you think of it?[/b] Videogame. I did have an idea that they didn’t use, and that was that the alien in his next phase turns into the predator. But they weren’t interested in hearing from me…at least it would have had some continuity between the two ideas. [b]Where would you like to see the next Alien film head? Perhaps back to the more high-budget universe that you---[/b] I’d like to see it stop. A horror movie’s a fragile thing, and once you’ve gotten past the original, it isn’t scary anymore. So you do a bunch of sequels to a horror movie, all they do is drain any remaining impact out of the original. All of the sequels to for instance Invasion Of The Bodysnatchers, same thing; they over-expose the ideas, and when you look at the original, it’s not as effective as it would have been if you had just left it alone. But money makes the world go round and Hill and Giler saw that as the best way to make more money without having to do any work. So as producers with an in at Fox, they just continue to shove those things through. [b]So as far as you’re concerned the Alien franchise is pretty much played out now?[/b] It was played out after the first one, as far as I’m concerned. Cameron, in the first one, did about the only thing you could do, which was that he changed to a different genre, from a horror movie to an action film. But once he had done that, there really was nothing left to do. And they just keep squeezing the thing till it’s an empty bag. But as long as it keeps bringing in money to them, they’ll keep doing it. Gordon Carroll was the only decent one among the producers. He had a falling out with them over Alien and they stopped liking him too, and he passed away a couple of years ago.

Everything I have ever seen in his biographies say he had a hand in writing AVP . O: WHY would they lie about him like that??? That is horrible!! -___- I never doubted it because he wrote plenty of B type movies. AVP is essentially a B Movie. --->"Did you have any more input into AvP2: Requiem than just your credit as having created the alien character? No, no. You’ve got to understand that Walter Hill and David Giler, who have been attached to the project from the beginning, they hate my guts. Because they’re scoundrels. They thought that by pulling a couple of fast ones that they could steal my screenplay credit from the original Alien." Oh that is so mean of them... :(

lol, I remembr you posted that before Craigamore and being shocked when I read it then too.

*Glares* Shame on YOU for not telling meeeeeee! You guys never bothered to mail me and tell me it wasn't correct. T__T You do know pretty much EVERY biography on the web about O'Bannon says he wrote it?? O_O I'm horrified I was misinformed...

Hangs head in shame...I would have called but I was kinda tied up... [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v234/LT.HIGHTIMES/A1ASOCKALIEN.jpg[/img]

@Spartacus; Seriously. You guys should have mailed me... I am stunned you guys let me labor under a false impression. :(

you're right there is NO excuse... I feel like a total Skank ! [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v234/LT.HIGHTIMES/skank.jpg[/img]

mE TOO...... [img]http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/2/team_america.gif[/img]

LOL@ Craigamore and Spartacus. It's all good. :D

hey craigamore, thanks for giving..."The Signal"

anytime.......

The weird thing is, it appears that in Prometheus, it's the Weyland CORPORATION, whereas in AVP it's Weyland INDUSTRIES. Could be that AVP CAN be counted as canon, it's just a coincidence that the Bishop android bears a resemblance to Charles Bishop Weyland who has nothing to do with the future Weyland-Yutani ;)

Prometheus bears quite a bit of a resemblance to the storyline of AvP (2004). Or is it just me? Regardless of what I think of the necessity and validity of putting Alien and Predator together, AvP is still a watchable movie (most movies today are totally unwatchable - to me). Back to the storyline... isn't this similarity astonishing?