The Prometheus' creatures' life cycle + creatures' drawings!
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Blood
MemberOvomorphMay 30, 20124635 Views52 RepliesI've done a shitty drawing showing the creatures lifecyle and development as they appear in the movie. Huge spoilers ahead obviously.
***SPOILERS***
Just check the image.
[img]http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/993/1338390444825.jpg[/img]
I can answer any question if necessary.
Cheers
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MostlyMay 30, 2012
I am still trying to decide if that picture is something my 6 year old could do...or a masterpiece that should be framed.
By the way, How does Ford die, and why do we not see her and the mecs body in the picture that is posted showing the SJ booting up the ship?

MAJMay 30, 2012
Awesome drawing. I think I understand the movie now. Which is ok by me, as I probably would not understand everything even after I saw it. I'm glad they have a link to the xenomorph, as that was important for me to be in the plot.
Thank you for your artistic analysis of the film.

ChrisMay 30, 2012
Thankfully you're not a good artist! Hahahaha XD (jk) This didn't ruin my perception of the creature but does give good insight! Looks like the mysterious "Alien Life Cycle" was not changed "too" much.
I tried seeing if Fox had any unseen stills of the new creatures, but unfortunately they did not. Regardless I think we can expect some conept art to pop up some time after release which will shed some more light on this.
Thanks for taking the time to draw this up and share! I will be sure to contribute this conversation a lot more tomorrow night! ; )

GavinMay 30, 2012
@ Blood - What do you mean by proto-alien... PM me as in depth a description as you can.

BloodMay 30, 2012
Ahahah I know! But to my defense, this was done on a tablet with little time. :P
Spoilers ahead...
Still, I don't understand what is the link between the alien statue in the ship and the final alien. They obviously knew that the goo could create a xenomorph, but I don't see why it takes so much steps to get there. It feels like its creation was an accident of Shaw sleeping with Holloway, but at the same time there's the statue/mural...
And if this goo was used as a weapon on earth for example, everyone would have turned crazy, so no xeno.
And it's also strange that the engineer crew was killed by things that came out of them. So maybe the creatures have not ONE lifecycle that can be described, but only adapt with the environment they are in and the creature they become in contact with. Hence engineers make appear xenos, if impregnated in the womb it creates something else. Then again, the crazy guys were just that, crazy, as if a parasite took control of their,brains without coming out of them.

LoneMay 30, 2012
Oh my Goooooooooooooaaaaaaaaaaaaad........so happy I could cry!
I was hoping we'd get a glimpse of some form of adult Proto Alien!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks Blood you've made my day!
"Let The Cosmic Incubation Begin" ~ H.R. Giger

iapetusMay 30, 2012
haha nice post, Blood!
Good thing to have people's curiosity fed and blow on the embers, while not actually revealing *that* much info about the plot that wasn't already around...
only, one question, is it deliberate that you did not mention include the Space-Tapir? I think the guys here will be made when they see you kept his life-cycle to yourself!


Mr.JMay 30, 2012
So, Blood, this Proto-Alien, shares the similar characteristics as Kane's in Alien, just not as defining? You can PM to keep this spoiler on the down low. Many Thanks!

JuxtaposeMay 30, 2012
Oh please ...please can someone repost those drawings!!....I can't see imageshack stuff...for some weird reason...(and many retries) I have never been able to register on that site!
...would be very much appreciated!
Ripley McPreviouscharacterMay 30, 2012
Third time I've tried to post a message, which is supposed to be a charm, here's hoping it werks. *crosses fingers*
First off, thank you, and I love you. I want to have your proto-xenomorph babies. This is EXACTLY what I was expecting: a new monster in and of itself with the capability to hybridize in... various ways, and that xenomorphs are just the tip of the iceberg, and there's so many other things this black goo can make.
Second, as to you being able to answer any questions... omg tell me everything about it <3. Seriously, I'm not going to see a monster movie because I'm interested in Ridley flunking history class.
So... what does the final stage of the "liver-burster" (you know, cuddles) look like? Okay, it's tentacles, but what else? wikipedia says it looks like a squid. Is it like a mini-Cthulhu? A blob of tendrils (mini-Lloigor :P)?
And what about the proto-guy? How is it different from from a human-spawned adult alien? Is it effectively the Jockey alien I've been waiting for since I saw Alien for the first time?
Help a brother out, I'm officially psyched now.
Edit: I don't know much about image hosting. I downloaded it, can you PM images?

BloodMay 30, 2012
Another version, again MAJOR SPOILERS, ALSO MAYBE SPOILERS ABOUT THE PLOT (if you think about it)
[img]http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/4813/1338395171296.jpg[/img]
Ripley McPreviouscharacterMay 30, 2012
:D
Wonderful! And your doodles are so freakin' cute.
Am I to infer that the proto-alien doesn't have arms? Or was that a stylistic choice? :P
That big blob in the middle is intriguing. Failure to properly capture it's form in the infallible medium of MS paint... so, it's just a shoggoth expy, isn't it?
What's that green deal after the... oh, are those the sleep/pod/freeze/things? Whatever they're called?
MostlyMay 30, 2012
The last Version confirms it.... these are masterpieces that you should frame and sell. I will start the bidding, 25$

BloodMay 30, 2012
It's done on my ipad lol.
The squid/bodyhugger is depicted a little shapeless, or that's what I saw. It's a huge pile of tentacles, small and big. The protoalien looks like a xeno, tail and all.

NixtonVMay 30, 2012
This is exactly what I wanted to see out of this film. It ties in to the original idea while keeping a completely unique system to itself. Thank you for posting this, I'm extra encouraged to see this movie now... or, more so than I already was. xD

BloodMay 30, 2012
The green things are the ampules.
From what I understood, I don't think there is much sense in trying to understand too much of the cycle of creatures. Maybe Scott thought about it all, maybe he didn't. The point is that this goo can change to many things, and there are some recursive elements and "body parts" that regularly appear : the acid blood, the mouth shape...

BloodMay 30, 2012
the proto description
SPOILERSSSSS
his skin seems smoother, opaque, wet yet not dripping and a lot more organic, like black flesh (I'm going to see it again tonight to be sure), not some kind of platic/metal.
His mouth has gums coming out like a white shark, and not like usual xenos. And his gums are red, as if there's blood in him.
His head is also smoother, with a pointy end.
o_oMay 30, 2012
Hello !
I did a (really) long text explaining how I did understand alien life cycle etc and why the drawing is wrong, but I lostd it trying to post, and I am too lazy to rewrite it.
So I make a new drawing :
[img]http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1338398915.jpg[/img]
Let me know if you have questions, also I used the same drawing style as Blood to not confuse readers.
o_oMay 30, 2012
Here's the non thumbnailed version of the drawing :
http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1338398915.jpg

BloodMay 30, 2012
Ah yes, you used the same style as mine, it's not that you don't know how to draw either ahahah :)
NEW SPOILERS
I'm not sure about the Fifield version. I think that him and halloway had the same thing. He just fell in the goo. We saw what the cobras did to Millburn and he was just dead.
I agree with the rest of course. But all that doesn't explain what creature was attacking the engineers in their ship. The corpses had holes in them. Was it xenos? Or cobraliens? What were they running from? What that decapitated head had inside?
Ripley McPreviouscharacterMay 30, 2012
Regularly appear in the goo? So, like, the goo itself is the Shoggoth? Or Cuddles?
And then... if... wow, my brain is going to explode. Just the concept of xenomorphs being directly related to a Shoggoth is like... those are two of my favorite monsters. Like, if you found out King Ghidorah is the direct ancestor of Vermithrax Pejorative. You know, from Dragonslayer. (it's okay if you don't)
Just a quick thing: have you read At the Mountains of Madness? Because you're using almost the exact same descriptive tropes. Rudimentary organs that form and subsume and such. I might also be thinking of Seven Geases by Clark Ashton Smith where Abhoth shows up (which is awesome, I can't recommend CAS enough). Abhoth has the added bonus of eating itse-tangent.
Thank you so much for all your info. It is greatly appreciated. :)
somethingMay 30, 2012
@Blood
@iapetus
Hey guys, just 4 questions (I think we would be all thankful if you could answer them):
1. Is the wiki synopsis correct on the whole?
2. If yes, are there any details there that are fake (like the Engineer beating Weyland to death with David's severted head)?
3. Again, if the synopsis is correct on the whole, are there still any details which were left out?
4. If yes, are these details substantial to the plot / basic understanding of what's happening?
KeelerMay 30, 2012
This thread now has my full attention. I'm really enjoying these drawings. I read the wiki-plot but am confused about the Engineer and Shaw-squiddy. It impregnates him and a proto-alien is birthed. Do they reveal what happens to the Squiddy afterwards? Does it die like a facehugger? It's safe to assume the Engineer dies I guess.

BloodMay 30, 2012
Well, your shoggg..thing and proto are related. And no I didn't read any of those...sorry :/
1 yes
2 you shouldn't have read that, it's symbolically very funny if you think about it
3 In the current plot on wikipedia there's nothing about 2 so I don't know which one you read
4 there is one thing that nobody has talked about which in my opinion is important, and it has to do with the storm.

BloodMay 30, 2012
The squid is nowhere to be seen afterwards so... anything could be.
I'm pretty sure he dies. Where the proto goes after that is a mystery.
somethingMay 30, 2012
@Blood
Thank you for answering!
@Blood
@iapetus
One more request, could you please confirm that:
1. We don't know why the sacrificial Engineer disintegrated and what was the point of that (was it a punishment, or a real sacrifice, etc?).
2. We don't know why the Jockeys were bent on eradicating life on earth.
3. We don't know why they visited us in the past.
4. We don't know why they left us a star map showing the way to a military installation that would later be used for creating the bioshit to destroy us.
5. We don't know exactly what happened to them (just that something went wrong with their bioweapons akin to the original movie).
6. We don't know why the last Engineer killed David.

BloodMay 30, 2012
1 I think it's clear why he disintegrated, and what was the point of that.
2 no, nobody knows, that may be for the sequel
3 we know why they came here the first time, they probably came back because civilizations left murals, but why?
4 I hadn't thought about this but no we don't
5 yes, but we know how they died, even if it's not clear what creature killed them
6 David should have said what Weyland told him to say. Since he's very loyal I think he did, but maybe he said something else. The engineer looked happy to see him at first.
Ripley McPreviouscharacterMay 30, 2012
blurg, i think this board is just buggy. :/
I drew my own.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/OyoEi.png[/img]
Am I close? I extrapolated how to get to a Dog Alien assuming 1. that the proto-xeno is coterminous with a jockey alien and 2. that there were no other hosts available on the derelict, so if that particular individual (that killed the jockey in Alien) were to lay an egg, it would have to go praetorian, then queen. Obviously I'm just guessing, but I like drawing dog aliens, so there.
blah blah blah does my chart look ok? Because that's how I'm currently understanding it.
somethingMay 30, 2012
@Blood
And thank you again for answering! :)
"I think it's clear why he disintegrated, and what was the point of that"
I get the fact that he seeded the planet with life, my question was whether we learn of his / his masters' motivation. I mean, is it something they do on a regular basis? Is seeding planets with life part of their culture?
The "because they can" argument from the last promo-clip doesn't quite apply here since creating David didn't involve sacrifice of his creators.

BloodMay 30, 2012
I'm sorry I don't see the image. I personnaly don't like the queen/praethorians thing, even if I enjoyed Aliens. But this movie is clearly closer to Alien than it is to Aliens.
Ripley McPreviouscharacterMay 30, 2012
Ok. It exists, though.
It's hosted on imgur. Here's just the address: http://i.imgur.com/OyoEi.png
*crosses fingers*
Of course it's closer to alien than aliens. It's the same director. Which breaks the 26 year tradition, but I guess when you gamble with directors like alien movies do and end up with avp:r, I suppose it's time to make a change. And I don't think this technically counts as an alien movie anyways, so no big deal.
somethingMay 30, 2012
BetaGamma9May 30, 2012
Wyland is the 1st Engineer. Or the last human. The Engineers are the combination of Human DNA & Alien goo. Now is it that the engineers are trying to ensure their existence or future by ensuring our end. Which came first the chicken & the egg or the or the farmer who built the farm...?

BloodMay 30, 2012
@Ripley
Good drawing, it's just like this apparently
I don't want you that didn't see the movie yet hate me even more, but I just saw it again.
@strashiLOL
spoiler on Weyland
Well actually creating David did involve the sacrifice of his creator. For him to be truly independent, Weyland had to die. And it's ironic that the brain that created him was smashed by the artificial head that he created.

BloodMay 30, 2012
I've been particularly careful at the design of the proto.
It's digitigrade, stands on its back fingers.
It's got red gums full of nerves, a lot of mollars like humans and big canines. It has a double gum like a white shark.
It came out of the chest using the pointy back of its head.
It's face is featureless?

BloodMay 30, 2012
@betagamma9
No, it's humans that are the combination of goo and engineer DNA. They are just building worlds.
@strashiLOL
I think too that the sacrifice thing is part of their culture, but that's only an interpretation.
He drinks goo from a pot with inscriptions, as part of a ritual. But there is no indication other than that in the movie.
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