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My 2nd time to see...nope i didn't miss anything

Nickel

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Had my 2nd viewing of ‘Prometheus’ last night....I was more than disappointed first time round and felt a bit let down but went to the cinema again for a second viewing and was indeed looking forward to seeing the film again....with different eyes. I had also in the days after my first viewing convinced myself that i’d missed something..... some crucial piece of dialogue....some physical anomaly or clue...that i’d over looked while engorged in the visual splendor of this film....so, as i did the first time i went in with an open mind...again!..and No!....my eyes and brain did not deceive me first time round. let me say first im not a fan boy....other than loving the first 2 films i don’t populate the Alien universe that much....just kind of orbit it a bit...especially with the run up to this film. i’m a fan of film. first and foremost. I enjoyed ‘Prometheus’ more second time around. Or should i say i enjoyed, even more, what i enjoyed the first time round....which in short was the first halfi-sh...60-75 mins of the film. I actually think that first hour or so is a fantastic cinematic spectacle....both visually and in the intense way the plot builds using different varients of the story to take us on what is supposed to be a gripping and terrifying journey. In short though it just doesn’t deliver. instead we get a first half of multiple built up story lines that takes the viewer on an intense and viseral and scary journey that doesn’t go anywhere story lines that are forgotten about and and lost to distraction of lesser and indeed useless points to the film. The Storm. Holloways infection. Fyfields random killing spree....amongst others. all of these distract and detract from the main story which is being presented in front of and to us. I’ve read and seen on this site that people are being criticized for not ‘Thinking’.....Because they say ‘Prometheus’ makes you ‘think’....i’m not going to lie....it does make you think....In the Larger arguments of Beginning,creation, evolution, life, death, god or the lack there of for some. all are un-answered ambiguous yet challenged issues throughout the movie. i don’t have a problem with any of that...i like having something to think about. But where these people are being criticized for not ‘thinking’ seems to be because (as i have done/am doing) we/I are challenging the questions of...What about the story i was watching??....the one that was un-folding in front of my eyes that was presented to me?...the one that spent the first 50 minutes trying to figure out what happened to the engineers....what they where running scared from...what murdered them? why did they run INTO the chamber (of death) where our story takes place?. I wouldn’t mind if it was a fleeting look....but it wasn’t we the viewer invested ourselves into these opening intriguing moments and followed gladly on what was being given to us....thinking it was all going to come together but doesn’t....Then there’s a storm....‘everyone out’.....lets go back....holloways infected.....everyone out....etc etc. Even Holloways plot line was futile...if Davids motivation was “Try Harder” ....was that it?....Surely most wanted to see what Holloway was mutating into...and what terror he would have brought with him again because thats what we where given, spent time on and built up too.....but no. infect him...kill him. Back to square one David....but again no....distracted by a mapping pod....’i’ll go and have a look at it if you like”...i know Shaw was impregnated by Holloway....but David couldn’t have know they’d sleep together...so again this plot line was left alone and distracted from the main story we’d been watching for an hour. So as far as this ‘Thinking’ thing goes....i shouldn’t have to fill in ALL the multiple blanks of ALL the multiple plot lines of a story that was presented to me built upon as the main reason for being there and then blatantly changed direction into a regular type monster movie and didn’t challenge anymore the story they’d built up. The second half is still very poor....what we have now is an abandoned main story line in favor of a regular Monster/chase movie....Are the engineers with all their Creative genius and power so easily upset by davids...(possibly insulting) words that they/he turns in to a basic thug type killer.....are they not more highly evolved than that? i’m not going to go on about this phase of the movie....it’s there to be seen and predictable i’ll leave it at that. Ultimately ‘Prometheus’ again left me feeling bewildered and disappointed....there was so much i enjoyed about it especially in the first half as i’ve said...i’m not surprised people came out with a real let down feeling and with real questions about the films execution and lack of or cut off narative as opposed to these big unanswered universal questions...that i think we’ve all accepted..... so anyway...im very happy for those who loved it....understand why others didn’t as much. you’ll have to make up your own minds....
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Yes your right in many cases... I think the problem was the movie was hyped up not only by us fans and the awaiting of Ridley Scott new venture into Sci Fi.... But also the way they edited the Trailers, and the interviews of it being Epic.... it was billed up to be a MASSIVE MASTERPEICE.... And potentially it had that, Visually, attention to detail it was great, the Plot was good in principle but sadly not executed well enough. The movie set the scene and was good, a few lose ends but nothing major untill after the night where Shaw and Holloway got it on... From the moment everyone was asleep and Janek was watching the Holomap and talking to Fifield and Milburn, then made that pass at Vickers "are you a robot" she replies "come to my room and find out" After that the rest of the movie in parts seemed rushed. It apeared to me to be like a 2 Hour 40 min movie that had to cut like 30-40 mins of footage and so they did most of those cuts after the Holloway and Shaw love scene and up untill the last 10 mins of the movie. Thats just how it seemed to me.... Which is a shame really..... Had this been a 160 Min movie or longer and a budget that would allow it to flow that long and had they toned down the Lindelof influences this movie could have been massive.... As it stands its not bad, some parts are very good others disapointing but on the whole its not a bad movie and if it was not set in Alien universe so the ships was not Derelicts, the Engineer was not in Space Jockey suits and there was no Weyland Corp.... then maybe the movie would have come across a bit better. Because i feel that those things meant the movie had to make ties to Alien than keep to its unique (ISH) plot.... They should have gone for a remake of Mountains of Madness which is what this movie is kind of like, mixed in with the Alien universe. But then again just because some dont like it, does not make it a bad movie. The true way to find how this movie does is by how long it stays in the Top 10 charts and then after that the DVD/Blu-Ray sales after release.

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@ Nickell - COMPLETELY agreed, my friend. You hit the nail right on the head. Once was enough for me. I felt cheated. Such a missed opportunity unfortunately. Gorgeous film though for the most part.
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@westy don't be an arse...contribute....get on or get off @whydon'ttheyfreezehim....i'd still recommend a 2nd viewing mate there is much to enjoy and it was a bit of a relief not having to go...WTF!! ...so you can enjoy some of the great bits even more....
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@Nickell - Will do mate. Im just saying once was enough to know that it wasnt me that missed anything...it was the film! But I will definitely see it again...just not at the cinema. Ive said it before, even though I came away disappointed and despite all the problems I have with it, theres still [i]something[/i] I like about it. Its just frustrating though because it has so much potential to have been truly incredible. @BigDave - Definitely. Right on again mate. 40 mins extra wouldve done wonders for the film. I think if it wasnt so rushed along, it would be much, MUCH better film. Such a shame.
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@whydon'tthefreezehim definitely mate my second attempt at going was only made easier as i have an unlimited cinema card....but i wouldn't pay to see it again....im the same too there's still a lot i like about it....but theres just too much of an overwhelming disappointment to an abandoned built up story. @bigdave well said and thanks for the contribution man.
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To me , it felt really like there were no real story in that movie, more like a collection of cool idea but that did not fit together , like , the scenarists said to themself "let's put that idea , it's so cool ,and let's put that scene ,etc ... " , but does the whole thing really makes sense ? quite like Lost imho , great ideas , but you dont get much answers in the end. In Alien , there was a threat , and while the Alien was something extra-terrestrial ,it behaved like any specy and had a goal , survive. What is the goal of the engineers ? we dont have a clue and we dont get any answers , that's a mistake in my opinion and make the movie not understandable.
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Where if you look at a movie from Nolan for instance. Everything makes sense. For instance , "the prestige" , it is fantastic , even sci-fi, but everything fits together and at the end , you dont wonder why , you have your answers. Same for "inception" , you can doubt wether or not Di Caprio is dreaming , but bother explanations are valid . Same again with Batman series. There is not one scene that doesnt have a purpose and if one look at that movie many times , the more one looks at it , the more he uncovers details. I wish christopher Nolan would have produce Prometheus( or at least write the script) , we would have ended up with a much better flick. Cheers.
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OK I downloaded a cam version(sue me) and watched it again as suggested by some members here and I enjoyed it a lot more 2nd time round. It still has many of the problems Ive noted before but for some reason it seemed better this time(like Nickell said, its a relief when you dont have to go....WTF?) and Im actually eager for Prometheus 2 now....
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@whydonttheyfreezehim hahah good man....yeah its just a little more gratifying 2nd time eh?....still full of the same stuff we've written and talked about....but theres a calming sense to knowing that theres much to be enjoyed in the film so you can take in the important and well done stuff until it all starts to go balls up....but a lot of it before this happens is with appreciating.
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