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StevenLyall

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It has all been said - not surprising with almost 8,000 posters and over 80,000 posts. But it's hard to resist adding my own thoughts: [b][u]VISUALS / EFFECTS / etc.[/u][/b] Just superb. [b][u]3D[/u][/b] My first 3D experience - awesome. [b][u]SOUNDTRACK[/u][/b] I liked it - I know others didn't. And I liked the recurring theme. [b][u]BIG STORY[/u][/b] By 'Big Story', I mean where this movie 'might' fit with sequels and with the earlier Alien movies. Personally, I would have preferred that this movie be about the actual ship that was found by the Nostromo crew - how it got there, the 'face hugger' eggs under the blue light, etc. I think this could have been done in a number of ways, without compromising the Earth 'cave drawings' theme as inspiration for the mission, or the potential for sequels. However, that's not the 'Big Story' that was chosen, but I can accept that future sequels 'could' make a link to the original Alien movie, and 'could' lead to an overall sense of viewer satisfaction, so I'm not bothered about unanswered questions in this movie. [b][u]DELIVERY[/u][/b] How this particular movie was 'delivered' is where it breaks down for me. In fact, I think it was very, very poor - although note that in my summary below I do pledge to continue to be a fan. The list of specifics have all been covered before: [i]There was no evidence to the crew that the 'Engineers' had anything to do with 'making us' (it was only us viewers who saw this link in the opening scene), and yet it became central to the theme of the movie.[/i] [i]The whole notion of putting a dysfunctional, aggressively antagonistic crew on this mission with almost no sense of awe about potentially proving that 'we are not alone' was inappropriate.[/i] [i]Over the surface of an entire planet/moon, they appeared to just chance straight upon the location of our assumed makers. I'd have swallowed a Star Trek panacea 'tacheon pulse' easier than this.[/i] [i]Then they dived out to explore within minutes of landing???[/i] [i]The whole 'taking the helmets off' thing, with no regard for contamination concerns, etc. was another issue.[/i] [i]Next, the 2 scientists became aggressive about going back to the ship because there was nothing of interest for them in the presence of the bodies of man's first confirmation of other intelligent life in the universe!![/i] [i]Then the 2 scientists got lost, despite the availability of breathtaking 3D imaging and detection technology, while the Captain and Vickers ("my job is to make sure you do yours") go off for a quickie in response to the chat-up line of the century - "are you a robot?"???[/i] [i]Finally, the 'scientists' find life in the form of the 'Cobra/Aliens', which they promptly start to lean over and tease with 'here kitty' or similar.[/i] [i]The 'Engineer's severed head that had been dead for 2,000 years could be tricked into thinking it was alive again, albeit that it then exploded, seems to be an event that is unlikely to be explained in future sequels. [/i] [i]David slips Holloway a 'black goo' Mickey Finn, with a strong sense of a compelling reason, but then loses all interest in what later happens to Holloway.[/i] [i]The tensions and emotions relative to Vickers torching Holloway in front of Shaw had potential, but the scene almost just came and went.[/i] [i]The self inflicted caesarean scene was great, but no one seemed to even notice the now much stitched Shaw hobbling around in agony, having birthed a squid.[/i] [i]I'll remain in hope that the choice of the relatively youthful Guy Pierce to play the very old Weyland, in makeup that reminded me of the old 'Biff' in 'Back to the Future II', is because a younger Weyland will appear in flashback scenes in future sequels. Otherwise, it was just odd.[/i] [i]The final crash scene was superb, and I will forgive Vickers and Shaw not realizing that if they had run sideways instead of longways they would have been fine. But I found that when the ship ended up in almost the same position as the derelict that the Nostromo crew will find later on the other planet/moon, it was just a painful reminder to me of how dissatisfying it is that this movie wasn't about that other ship[.[/i] [b][u]SUMMARY[/u][/b] In summary, I will go see the movie again, I will by the Blu Ray, I will hope for a Director's Cut and I will look forward to sequels. But the sequels can't fix the delivery issues with this movie, for this one fan. And yes, definitely still a fan!
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galacticnorth
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Delivery: some points from me - the crew are told in no uncertain terms that the engineers have something to do with us. Holloway shows the constellation of the system they visit in murals from cultures on earth. What possibly clearer connection with us could you ask for? DNA evidence? Oh wait we got that. Most of all though 'big head' is one big 'you are created in our image'. As David puts it---..remarkably human. - I didnt find the crew dysfuntional or aggressive at all with the exception of Fifield. - I dont think they chanced on finding the 'one site' on the moon. I think the moon is one big operational station and David hints as much. - The two scientists dont become aggressive and leave....Fifield becomes extremely scared and reacts in hysterical fashion. Not an unnatural reaction in one person in such a situation an eternity away from earth and humanity. - David is experimenting with the bioformer to see if it has beneficial results that are potentially of use to Weyland searching for more life. The bioformer degenerates Holloway. - Only Millburn treat the cobralien in such a fashion...Fifield is in fact scared of it from the get go. Watch the scene again. Miullburns reaction is typical of a biologist/ethologist....i know some...i know :)
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I think RS ment he wanted to go away from where Alien go to. Alien was not an action slash movie, all the follow ups were. i think he prefered the mysterie around Alien. and as Alien had a culture, he moved away, something like that
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yeah this movie had a promising premise and overall good concept, but the delivery sucked and became too melodramatic and cheesey I agree with all of the flaws you pointed out plus: how did the fassbender character sneak in that thing so easily? is it that simple to sneak in things like that on a ONE BILLION dollar voyage? why don't characters communicate throughout the film? why didn't the main character chick ever tell anyone that the ship's android is going crazy plotting to kill everyone? isn't that the most logical/ natural thing anyone would do? like you said, I don't mind all the unanswered questions, but there were just so many character flaws and unrealistic scenarios... this movie had great potential, but failed to live up to it by feeding us this simple, irrational story... and it didn't help that someone at the theater i was at had a seizer during the movie O_O
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StevenLyall
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Thanks galacticnorth - I might find some of this in my second viewing.
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this_movie_sucked
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my mistake, I said Billion when it was in fact TRILLION. even worse
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my first negative i watched it in Dolby3D i really want to rewatch it in 2d, though i liked the 3d, i found 3d lessens the image quality. i think i'll absorb more details in 2d ppl always seem able to sneak in something somewhere, even on highly controlled planes. + it was a secret mission
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actually replying to:this_movie_sucked, the movie didn't suck, as u mentioned it has it flaws but very entertaining and keeps u guessing, but the crew had little talk between them, emotional levels weren't high when it had to be, the score had to be toned a bit darker in some areas of revealing, as the official review mentioned, but everything concerning cinematography was just brilliant, academy award for visual effects;)
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Nah, I'm with this_movie_sucked, this movie sucked. Worse, it started out pretty great and then started to suck once the audience was invested, which is way more disappointing than a movie that's just bad throughout.

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