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What do you think David says to the Engineer in his language?

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SJB

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I thought it was interesting that there are no subtitles for the language David uses when he speaks with the Engineer they have just woken it up? Any thoughts on what you think he said?
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sukkal
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The context in *this* edit implies that he was pissed off by David's translation of Weyland's demand/request. I hope that we can find out "what really happened." I'm working on it. Everything in the odd context points towards a *conversation* to which we are not privy in the theatrical release because it was redacted in the editing. The fact that we are not allowed to hear that conversation between the Engineer and David is one of my BIGGEST peeves with the film.
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Arkadine
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"You look so pale, like you are in need of a transfusion!" lol
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WhyDontTheyFreezeHim
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David greets the Space Jockey by saying "Dillon!!! Yoooou son of a bitch!" - a line from one his favourite movies. The Space Jockey takes it the wrong way, thinking David is just insulting his mother.
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"You [i]ugly!.....[/i]"
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SJB
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lol some funny stuff guys :) what i was thinking was that maybe David looking for freedom from Weyland says something to incite the Engineer. Although David does not full understand what freedom would mean for him.
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Not sure, but honestly, if they had subtitled this, i would have been a lot less frustrated with the film.
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We don't know if what David says, has [i]any[/i] bearing on how the Engineer reacts. We [i]do[/i] know that from the engineer's perspective, it was only yesterday that he planned on wiping out our species, either through physical death or horrific mutation. Apparently, his mood hasn't changed
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ha Freeze!! I interpreted it as David was suggesting some crazy swiss named Hans Rudolf who would have helped their creature "engineering" . . . but I like Freeze's interpretation better.
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Perhaps he said "You mad bro? Come at me bro!" ? No, David's not a dumb internet troll, so probably not that. It's open to interpretation. One on hand , David is programmed to obey Weyland, even to the point of infecting Holloway. he may have simply translated what he was asked, but the Space Jockey wanted to kill them anyway - it was on a mission to kill all humans. On the other hand, the converstion he has with Shaw just prior to the trip, He says he has no concept of freedom or 'wanting' but says that 'don't all children want their parents dead' - I find it an odd idea to think that he would want to say something to the Space Jockey to enrage him, as it's just as capable of ripping David apart as it is of killing Weyland... in fact it kills Weyland by belting him in the skull with David's head. I haven't seen Lost, but I've heard that the writers (which include Lindelhof) set up a lot of little teasers which were red herrings, just to get the audience speculating.
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I find the scene of Weyland getting belted by Davids head interesting and symbolic in a way. Weylands creation was the tool used to cause his death. I think the space jockey intended to kill him with his own creation.
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i want to get my hands on a copy, just to put my curiosity to rest about whether the few words he was learning during the flight were used when he spoke to the engineer. I can't remember if english versions were spoken, i don't think so but I'm still curious to see :P
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interesting the way the engineer touches/strokes the head of David as well. appears to me to be some disconnected actions that lead me to think that the dialogue may not have been 'innocent'. either way it is fun to contemplate the meaning, if any at all.
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Loved David's look of pure joy when he was caressed by the SJ. Made me feel like he needed that physical contact, hugs from daddy so to speak. Interesting need for a Robot. I interpreted it differently, I think the SJ saw the cruelty we humans are capable of, or was reminded of it when Weyland asks to have Shaw "quieted" and she then got a blow to her already damaged abdomen.

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@Svanya yeah either that or just the significance of the situation, it has been said in his youtube interview that he has emotions or atleast and understanding of them so maybe. Gotta admit despite the fact he's a robot people were pretty harsh to him at some points, kinda asking for trouble.
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Definitely fun to contemplate the meaning. I know this scene frustrated a lot of people, but personally, this was one scene where I was actually glad we didnt get subtitles. I liked that its left open.
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@Svanya - I thought that too! So many things it could be!
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SJB
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Svanya, agree! I thought it was an interesting scene and imagery. Meeting the maker of my maker maybe? Maybe even meeting someone/something more equal to David?
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@josiyah; Yes, and I firmly believe that if we are to bring A.I into this world we have the responsibility to treat them with care and treat them like the children they are. We emulate our "parents" so we need to be kind and teach our A.I "children" good lessons not bad.

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Whatever he said, he must have started by introducing the group as coming from Earth. Probably he reverentially paid respects to the giant, in the same way ancient people would have addressed Isis or Quetzalcoatl if they had them before them. That is why the Engineer gently strokes David's hair. He maybe also detected that he is an artificial being, and to his eyes we humans are not supposed to create other beings. That reminds him why he is supposed to wipe us out.. we went too far
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@WhyDontTheyFreezeHim Agree with your view. I like that some things/ideas/thoughts are left to us to think about and enjoy in our own heads. I know some people are frustrated by that and I guess that is why we all enjoy movies differently. Some fantastic ideas in this move. In recent months I had just finished watching the entire series of Ancient Aliens from the History channel. Some really cool comparisons between the series and the ideas explored in the movie

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