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PROMETHEUS the Film: Not the Absence of a Liver…But of a Heart

Neurion

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Having seen PROMETHEUS in the standard format and in IMAX 3D, I’d have to say that I really enjoyed it, though not thoroughly. For me, the weakest aspect of the film is its lack of compelling emotional drive. When Ridley Scott took the helm of the original 1979 ALIEN, I can imagine him thinking…or even declaring, “I will win the crowd…I will give them something they’ve never seen before,” as the protagonist once uttered in Scott’s GLADIATOR. The thing is, back in ’79 there was much that crowds had not seen…cinematically. In the 33 years since the original ALIEN, audiences have become jaded, callused, and even desensitized to the types of scenes that utterly shocked people in times past. In 2012, even children have seen more violence and disturbing imagery through films and video games than would’ve ever been dreamt of by society in ’79. If seen in the 1970’s…the cesarean section scene in PROMETHEUS would’ve probably have the same effect on the audiences and media as the original chestburster scene in ALIEN…maybe even stronger. So, In my opinion, Ridley & company should have sunk more effort into developing the emotional aspects of this film. This would facilitate the viewer’s personal interest and emotional investment in the characters. I didn’t love anybody in this story, nor did I hate anybody. I wasn’t laughing, but wasn’t crying. When people died, I didn’t really give a shit, and for a film to be great…or excellent…I have give a shit, I have to care. I think the following tweaks would’ve helped immensely: •Clarify Shaw’s beliefs and goal. •Give me a reason to fall in love with Shaw’s character. •Make me care about Capt. Janek, so that his and his crewman’s sacrifice would mean more. •I needed a more malevolent, human antagonist, Vickers and David were too ambiguous. Anyways, etcetera, etcetera… I DID enjoy the movie, but I wanted to FEEL more. Obviously, there were many other problems with it, however I think that the biggest flaw was the less than adequate emotional investment in the script/characters…at least for me. Thoughts…anybody agree…disagree? Peace, Neurion P.S. I hope Shaw can find a good fastfood restaurant while searching for the Engineer’s home world, otherwise it's going to be a short trip. Ha!
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I totally agree .... and that is strange because usually lindeloff is great in this , and Scott was good too even in a discontinued way . Lets hope that those 20 minutes more of the extended edition will help that thing a bit . I dont know if the fault is of a rushed script or a script that was not able to touch the emotional strings . PS in theory there should be ALOT of food into Vickers personal pod , but ..there is also the alien there :p
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That was a great way of approaching the common feeling most people have (including myself - post after post express this problem) concerning the lack of character development or the lack there of. The overall story was great and I get it, but we are a "Social Species" and need that connection in order to fully realize the vision of the film makers. Without it, it's just special effects with people screaming a lot. Thanks for posting.
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Soory...mispost
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Thank you, Patch. In total agreement. Maybe there's more for a special cut of the film...down the road...if Ridley were to change his mind about a special edition. ~N
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Agreed for the most part. Accept where Shaw's concerned. I believe her character is pretty well rounded. - We know something happened to her Father and Mother and they died while she was young. - She was raised Christian, but given the choice to believe whatever she wanted to believe. Yet she chose to follow her Father's footsteps and remain strong in her faith. You'll notice she wears her father's cross yes? - At some point she became enamored with the idea that we were aided along in our development throughout time by EBEs (ala` Chariots of the Gods), and she wanted the answers to why they played this role, but have yet to return or show themselves. In summation, her goals are to discover who made us, if possible ask them why we are here and to what ends their involvement was meant to entail. She doesn't consider "god" as being our biological creator, but something else that keeps her going, a "Personal MacGuffin" if you will.
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Yo that was a "frindly description" of the mess. Hehe. Well not a mess at all as i spend LOTS OF TIME ON THIS FORUM and saw Prometheus 3 times, so i like it somehow, but i feel a pitty that there was some "crude editing" (?) to make it PG13, and i also did not feel very much for the characters. Though i must say that IMO Fassbender and Rapace gave all they had and did the best they can with the script, amazing actors and amazing roles. So i am VERY VERY VERY happy to see those two characters (HOPE SOON) in a sequel. Hopefully they do only ONE sequel, dont have to wait 5 years till all the puzzle is done.... My head hungers for some ANSWERS these bastards did put in my head... haha
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I know exactly what you mean by the lack of emotional depth in this movie. If it´s not engaging, who cares? Shock and surprise are achieved, when you see something you don´t expect, making you feel uncomfortable and insecure. I was hoping for more silence and slow build up - rare in recent sci fi movies and therefore a way to grab attention and engage. Prometheus follows a conventional and predictable action movie formula, which is strange, since Ridley wanted to push the envelope and create a movie, where the shock is in the story. [url=http://www.prometheus-movie.com/community/forums/topic/6889]My review[/url]
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I think what was submitted to the MPAA was Scott's "PG-13" version, but they still rated it R. I am hoping that Scott's "R" version and the extra 20+ minutes will help us connect more to the characters. It may even help explain Milburn and Fifield's oddities.
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See the film was like going out and picking up a lady boy.....only joking, I think you hit the nail on the head when you say you 'want' to feel more but don't. This was the same with me also and perfectly puts my feelings about the whole event in a nutshell, having been to see it at 00:01 on 01/06/12, the only thing about the film I was confident of was that what It was going to be epic, the films quality was going to ooze through near enough every scene (similar to what I realised when watched Alien the other day). I was confident that I was going to be able to tell friends that Prometheus is a "must see movie" instead what I ended up doing was telling anyone and everyone that would listen and didn't mind a spoiler that they should wait for the blu-ray/DVD (or even the dodgy DVD man, shhhh). This more than anything upset me about the film. I'm enjoying all the debate and what not surrounding the theory of the story and what not, but I wish there was just one scene I couldn't wait to see again, just one.
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Ya I hear on this post ,,, I hope to the extra footage on the DVD will shed a little more light . the movie could have been a little more DARKER , as in in the first Alien , or even a mechanical failure in the ship for a different side story along the way ,,to keep the good old captain buzy Special effect were right on ,,,,but I felt some crew members could have taken there job, ,,,,just a little more serious (Millburn and Fifield) , instead of running around inside the temple lost ,,,,,
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they removed also when she pray in front of the mirror , that scene was present in trailer and not in the movie ...was deleted for commercial reasons for sure ( dont forget that some parts of atheism or scienceaboveallguys are no less foundamentalist than religious guys ) ...so that acting "grey" yes remove some boldness from the movie and at the end it disconnect from characters . ALSO even if Fassbender is magnificient ad David i would have liked to see him and Pearce as co-protagonists as crew members ( Pearce is totally a waste there )
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@JesperJotun I guess what I meant by “clarifying Shaw’s beliefs and goal” was this: Most Christians believe in the Judeo-Christian concept of an almighty God, and that God is the being that created mankind, whereas Shaw seems to be insatiably driven to find a mere extra-terrestrial creator, rather than a supernatural one. To me, the cross she wears seems more like a memento of her father, then a symbol of her faith. Obviously the filmmakers wanted to keep the spiritual/faith aspect of her character fairly gray or ambiguous. That’s why she wears a simple cross, rather than an actual crucifix complete with the figure of Christ affixed. Also, that would’ve been a little too “politically/cinematically incorrect.” Her character’s alleged faith seemed like an aberration and not very realistic or well thought out. That’s basically what I meant.
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Sorry...mispost
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I AGREE Frantz Pearce, ya ,,dont know why they added him into the story ,,was a waste

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