Confused over last Engineer's death taking place

James Stuart
MemberOvomorphJune 12, 2012856 Views20 RepliesHiya I am bit confused cos during near at end, Elizabeth got caught by one of Engineer in crashed Weyland spaceship but falls victim to facehugger but at Alien film, crew member Lambert, Kane and Dallas discovered long dead Engineer with chest burst open so I assume he dies inside his ship?........
And other thing is, Millburn has a thing burst out on his chest - what happened to it? became a full grown Alien or what?
Thanks
June 12, 2012
That wasn't the same Engineer. That was another Engineer in the Pilot's chair/Suit chair. Of another ship.
The Engineer in Prometheus died then and there.
He didn't get back up after that... poor bastard. Really didn't want him to die.
Oh well, i hope the sequel is an Engineer fest!
June 12, 2012
Two different engineers, two different planets, two distinctly different events. No doubt the trailers seemed to indicate a possible explanation for the derelict we see at the beginning of alien and the dir cut of aliens but no, it's a totally different engineer who apparently died a very similar death. In other word the trailer edits were a cheap stunt to get us to see this movie presuming a direct backstory to alien. It didn't.. Just a stunt to get ppl in the theatre.
June 12, 2012
No "Stunts" were required to get people into the theater...at least not me. The only "stunt" I needed was to see Sir Ridley's name on the movie...
June 12, 2012
Ugh.......Scott and others explicitly told us r[i]epeatedly[/i] that "Prometheus" wasn't going to be a direct prequel. It was even in the papers........ Some of us took them at their word, and did our best to spread it. Others apparently chose to live in denial, and look what it got them: epic disappointment.
June 12, 2012
Yes... not a prequel. And people STILL F***ING CALL THIS AN "ALIEN" MOVIE. FFS!
If i see another review referring to Prometheus as an Alien movie, someone's gonna get stabbed in the face with a soldering iron, i swear.
I'm gonna kill someone, OLD style!
June 12, 2012
Msepsis... The only people who went to see this movie thinking it was an alien movie were in denial, or just plain ignorant. Sorry to be so blunt...but it's getting really old, and we all knew better than to think it was going to be an alien movie, ESPECIALLY if you saw a trailer! Nothing about those trailers evoked "Alien" in my mind.
June 12, 2012
Oh dear.
I see the first part of your question is has been dealt with - on to the worm:
the worm did not jump from Milburn's chest? It jumped from his mouth.
It then plopped back into the goo where it angrily swam away.
If it could speak English, I'm sure it would have cried out, "That's right! From his FACE!....And that's how I'll do you [i]all!...[/i]"
June 12, 2012
end of movie, shaw survives, goes to derelect from first alien movie... unbeknownst had goo stuff still in her.... crashed ship when finished form of alien burst through her chest, laid eggs then ripleys crew found it. she was in spacejockey cockpit seat so she looked alien with all its gear on--- MIND BLOWN
June 12, 2012
"the worm did not jump from Milburn's chest? It jumped from his mouth.
It then plopped back into the goo where it angrily swam away." Sorry my mistake - its just went so fast lol
June 12, 2012
Yes the speed of some of sequences was a sick joke, so its understandable.
I'm sure there were people who missed whole scenes because they sneezed.
June 12, 2012
And finally, that facehugger at end is massive! Produced by human female and infected male - could be first ever facehugger or what? Why its grows to massive one as other huggers are small one...........
June 12, 2012
Did the last engineer hold his breath from his crashing ship to the survival pod? I guess he has big, big, big lungs.
June 12, 2012
@ryzenko
That's a possibility I thought about, and would be a completely possible and coherent way to link this to Alien, if Shaw wasn't going to be in the next movie where she'll surely be.
June 12, 2012
Artyoh.....you're also forgetting the other half of people disappointed with this film....the ones that new what they were getting, have a deep understanding of the Alien universe and have been dissecting the prometheus trailers and forums for quite some time...ie.better prepared than anyone. And yet still huge disappointment.....this net spreads wide
June 12, 2012
I'm sorry that anyone was disappointed......but some critiques are entirely misplaced, for anyone who has a sense of irony.
Let's look at "Alien."
One-dimensional characters with zero backstory or any sense of what motivates them? check
Implausible science? check
Characters behaving foolishly and/or unprofessionally; ignoring simple common sense? check
A terribly inefficient monster life-cycle, including [i]multiple[/i], metamorphoses, designed purely as a plot device for the action of a horror movie? check
It's weird when folks complain about the implausibility of a [i]biologist[/i] becoming utterly enthralled when confronted by a creature that is strikingly similar in overt appearance to a terrestrial example with which he's certainly familiar, while apparently ignoring the foolish curiosity exhibited by Kane over an alien life-form he couldn't really even make out.
It's a bit surreal to hear people complain about how casually drawn the main characters are in "Prometheus," when crewmembers of the Nostromo were actually paper-thin by comparison.
The irony is stupendous when people complain about characters in "Prometheus" being unecessary, when most members of the Nostromo crew were essentially xeno-fodder.
It's strange to hear people complain about scientific implausibilities in "Prometheus," when the script of "Alien" is equally guilty.
It's funny to me that some people were apparently expecting Scott to give us chapter and verse about one of the most intriguing loose-ends in the original movie......as if Ridley Scott will [i]ever[/i] take [i]all[/i] the mystery out of that iconic image.
June 12, 2012
Its totally an alien movie.They used the popular iconography to sell tickets.If the jockey and Giger's ship weren't there this would have made 15 mil. and no one would care about underwritten and underdeveloped sci-fi concepts,As it is everyone is pushing it with the spiritual and philosophical ideas.The Muppet Movie is just as deep as they never say what the engineers purpose is either.
June 12, 2012
One thing to remember, Alien was made over 30 years ago.
For me, watching it about 20 years ago blew my friggin mind and the back of my undies, Prometheus did not.
I still like the movie, but I see it as just a stepping stone to the next in the series, nothing to get over excited about.
June 13, 2012
saying its a set up for another film is an excuse for a bad film. Oh, the next one will be better? Matrix 2 and 3, Star Wars prequels anyone? If you make a good movie there are no sequels required I.E. BladeRunner,Alien.
June 13, 2012
its difficult to all agree objectively on a films good and bad points...but I feel there are a lot of apologists out there determined to ignore the technical flaws with this film..and very quick to flame 'dissenters' as ignorant fanboys expecting an Alien prequel, or only capable of enjoying low brow Michael Bay movies or AvP, or who dont get the 'complexity' that is required for open ended screenplay approach and that its all intentionally not there for a reason…what utter nonsense.
I appreciate open ended screenplays when they are EXECUTED correctly (see any film by Michael Haneke for how its done), there are authors who have honed this skill to incredible precision (see Julian Barnes - 'Sense of an Ending'). I get more is less as a concept, most people do…but I wont accept piss poor continuity or narrative errors, or nonsensical plot lines and character decision making….these can be objectively critiqued and can certainly be delineated from any 'intentional' questions the writers want to leave unanswered.
Im not disappointed about this not being an Alien prequel, im disappointed about the execution of the end product - it SCREAMS of poor preparation, of rushing to get the job done and stay on budget. Lindelof was brought into re-write the script...theres red flag number 1....he spent a few weeks on this at his own admission ..theres red flag number 2. I think the end product is reflective not necessarily on Lindelof's talent and creative ability...moreso that they ended up re-writing the whole script in a matter of weeks!! And doesn’t it show.
I liked the movie but I wanted to love it...theres a great story in there somewhere....but sorry, its an abject failure when a film with this amount of funding and talent involved can be pulled apart on the execution.