Room on Derelict in Alien IS IN PROMETHEUS

All the ships are probably the same so yeah, there'd be a lower room there. That ship wash crashed into by the Prometheus then crash landed on LV-233. The Engineer that was flying it died. I doubt it's taking a mission to LV-426. Nice try though.

Really? I was looking for it, but don't recall seeing anything that definitively said that was the same "room". I will look even closer during my next viewing.

I agree that all the ships would be built the same. As for the rooms being the same or different, the main difference between the Derelict and the Engineer's ship was the hypersleep chambers. The Derelict didn't have hyper sleep chambers. Then again, the models and Engineer suits and even telescopic bridge seat weren't exactly the same. they were obviously going for more detail in Prometheus, so even the Engineer's helmet and the Space Jockey helmet are not exactly the same, though as far as the story goes they are. Just a minor detail in movie making with a 30 year gap.

@Bishop79...Exactly. I also remember people thinking that the Engineer getting into the cockpit chair as seen in the trailer was not an Engineer but a human because he was smaller in comparison to the chair than the Jockey in Alien. Plus the Jockey in Alien had those long arms. I always chalked it up to design differences but others were insistant that it wasn't an Engineer and that RS wouldn't overlook something like that. I don't think it was overlooked. Simply changed.

yeah, but the ships CAN'T all be built the same, there's the SCALE OF THE SPACE JOCKEY issue and the DETAILS ARE ALL SORTS OF DIFFERENT in the thirty years between films... [img]http://movieodyssey.com/files/2009/04/alien-space-jockey122.jpg[/img] [i]this is how it looked thirty years ago in the original Alien (1979)[/i] in fact, it's TOTALLY DIFFERENT in every way (position, architectural detailing, floor, cryotubes, walls, patterns, design elements of gun and rider and so on; which is strange because they had the original Giger blue-print/reference to build from, had they wanted. Why is it so specifically different?

@Freeplanet...Money, story purposes and 30 years perhaps? It's just differences in design imo. Anyway, if you say it's not just design differences and are saying that the ships are totally different then the topic of this thread is definitely proved wrong.

Yeah, I don't think it is so specifically different. I think you are just reading into it too much. Its meant to be the same kind of ship, same kind of space jockeys, same kind of telescopic chair. Just cause the minor details are different doesn't mean it's not meant to be in the same universe. That would be like arguing over the details for how each Xeno suit was different for each of the Alien movies. Just cause the Xeno suit in A1 wasn't as detailed as the Xeno suits in A4 doesn't mean that they are not xenos or come from the same universe. Plus, with the advancement of CGI, Giger and Scott could get as much more detailed and specific with their designs and sets as they wanted. Whereas 30 years ago they were limited by budgets and cosmetic effects.

Seriously, EVERY FACTORY-MADE FORD CAR of the same model and type is IDENTICAL when it rolls off the production line, you know apart from colour and custom additions... IDENTICAL even if you leave it in the rain to rust for thirty years. The ENGINEER chair/telescope and its surroundings is completely different i.e. not the same ship. Not the same era? :)

They are very different..if the sequals are going to tie to the LV-426 ship/jockey...I looking forward to that. This did not satisfy me.

They may look different,but they're the same. Ridley Scott said that this movie was to answer the question... "Who's that giant guy in the chair that looks like a gun in the first Alien?" That's one of them "Enginners" from this movie(Which I haven't seen). The ending also introduced the Proto-Xenomorph,a special kind of Xenomorph that is apparently the result of a Trilobite(A huge Facehugger) impregnating one of the Enginners. But the Enginners also appeared in other Alien Media. There was one in the Graphic Novelization of Alien,one in a comic(called Destroying Angels) and one in AVP-R (Alien vs Predator Requiem). Hopefully I was able to blow your mind and make you insane.

Also, in the Art of the Film book they talk about having to change the shape of the derelict in order to do the roll in the crash scene. They didn't say "this is a different model ship" they said "we had to change the design to fit the story." They're just design changes.

Ridley has said that these are intended to be the same kind of craft, the reason for the differences is well if you look at BSG 80's and the new one and look at the Viper MK4's they look the same but different... same thing here. They are not intended to be different... Ridley has passed the different look inside to be because the one in Alien is dead and thus as the Bio Mech Tech breaks down, stops working it dies and becomes more Organic than Mechanical.... The Derelicts are not the same in one sence, the Ship in Prometheus does not land on LV 426 and the biggest clue to their differences are the sarcophagus or lack of in Alien.

I mean, UNLESS EACH DERELICT IS UNIQUELY GROWN based on the whim of each Engineer/Pilot, they should all 'be the same'. Like the Hangars themselves, like the gooey button / flute interface, like the hologram dust; all the same. :)