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CAVE DRAWINGS...NOT AN INVITATION

Richie

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Those drawings gave the right coordinates to a destination and it took someone with intellignce to deciper it. That allows for intelligence to develope until it can figure out coordinates. However, there is no clear proof that it was an invitation by anyone...No where does it show invitation...
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Maybe it was an invitation but they changed there minds after we messed with the space jesus ! - at least that seems to be the story so far - we shall have to wait for more info unfortunately...
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If it was from them, they could have used some laser writing or something...Instead, it is from the people who lived at that time....All they were really saying is that someone visited us and left behind 6 cirlces in the sky.
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Hmm ok were was that info? So hmm that would be another royal fuk up if that is true because supposedly all the engineers died around 2000 years ago from 2098 or what ever it was so if they all died and it took the humans about 2 and a bit years to get there how the fuk was one going to or from earth to this place 600 years after hmmm...I really hope all these messy facts if they are right get tied together one day !
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[u]Maybe it was an invitation but they changed there minds after we messed with the space jesus ! - at least that seems to be the story so far - we shall have to wait for more info unfortunately...[/u] If they changed their minds, why are there two more drawings hundreds of years afterwards? The Hawai'ian one is 680 CE (what some people still call A.D.) and I think the Mesopotamian on is also around 6th Century) I don't think it was an invitation, just as explanation of where they were going to and coming from. It looks like what a human would draw to represent the 3D hologram of the star chart showing the way. Of course the space jockeys could have drawn it, they are after all 'us' but do you notice, that the one that shows a figure pointing, it is pointing at the centre star... and that is not the one they went too, if Scott is taking this map as being the one from the "Zeta Reticuli incident". [img]http://www.gravitywarpdrive.com/Zeta_Reticuli_Images/Betty_Hill_Star_Map.gif[/img] These are all existing stars and the one that matches the distance travelled (327 Trillion km) is Gliese 86 there, which is the left most dot of the 6 that are common to the drawings. Zeta 1 and Zeta 2 are a few light years further away.
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How do you reckon that ALL of the Space jockeys died and not just the ones in the first dome? And if Lv 223 is not their home world, why would it be a problem to have others visiting Earth? There's no messy fact there. The info about the Hawaiian drawing was in the briefing where they show all the different drawings from around the world, and they all have dates and locations written next to them. "Let me show you guys why you are here. These are images of archaeological digs from all over the Earth. That’s Egyptian, Mayan, Samarian, Babylonian, that’s Hawaiian at the end there, then Mesopotamian" [img]http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1bnc3QUYj1rrwp9mo2_500.jpg[/img]
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Hadleys Hope...nails it with his comments..well done too. The drawings just share data whihc ahpopens to be verifyable...Remember, Shaws boy freind leaps out of his chair when he sees the domes from the spaceship view. they didint know what they would find...This mission could have gone the other way...a big fat nothing.
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Nails what lol - I agree with the 680ce being ad but the why still doesn't make sense?! So your saying 600 years after the goo killed the engineers in that dome an engineer came to earth and showed us a way to get to the moon lv 223 just the same as before - very weird! And the engineers also choose to not investigate the dome for 2000 years after hmmm and you think the contamination didnt spread to all the domes the engineers had chest bursts and no xenos were found hmmm again - I think not - lv 223 was quarantined because they lost all of them. And if they are still visiting us from the home world 600 years after the contamination on lv 223 then why did they not carry out what ever the planned on lv 223 - anyway hopfully we shall find out I hope its still not messy later on : S ...
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Crabfart... why do you think they DIDN'T carry out what they planned? Do you share Shaw's assumption that what they planned was different from what they normally do in their visits... which perhaps involves some creation and destrucion? Remember, every time David wants to mislead someone, he has to be vague and cryptic and rely on them to interpret it according to their own mindset. it seems his programming prohibits outright lies, so he uses this as a loophole. Knowing what he does about Shaw, and her dreams, he would know that some vague mention of destruction, will be interpreted as "Armageedon" and she doesn't even ask him "Do you mean they will kill us all?" Why would the outbreak spread. They have huge stone doors to seal off different sections. They could have done that and left, and carried on visiting Earth from another location. Probably should have "nuked the site from orbit" if they were done using it, or possibly they contained it, didn't bother to remove the dead, and just kept using the other domes, and our motley crew were lucky to call while the other crews were out visiting some other planets, and they found a backup ship to hotwire at the end. If my theory about the Space Jockeys being worker slaves is true, it might explain why, in a tunnel full of bodies, they are piled to one side, rather than blocking the way, and a single body, that is easy to step around, can be discarded. If they've been drained of concern for themselves, then funerals etc won't be that important to them.
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If the outbreak didnt spread or get out were are all the xenos trapped inside the big doors - no? And the 2 crew members that found the chest burst engineers did not go through any doors to find them! There was also a clear way up to the surface through the middle - you see the sky up the middle shaft! The infected engineer is lying exactly in the same place it fell 2000 years before - no engineers had been back its obvious! I think they are probably slaves or something similar too... The whole assumption thing can be based on 3 facts: 1. they deffinatly were going to earth. And 2. the ship was full of black goo 3. The black goo dont seem to be good for us humans! Am uncertain of why but I think they didn't carry it out probably because they took what happend on lv 223 as a warning from god or something and decided not to carry on or there whole empire has been wiped out or most of it by this goo. Anyway I just hope there is some explanation later on for visiting us 600 years after doing all this and pointing out that moon : S !
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Whatever took place took place rather quickly and unexpectedly....Engineers dont look like they are afraid of anything even theri own death...to have something chase them like they are running for life itslef....What the heck is that? Whatever happend, shut the whole place down for a couple of thousand years...there are probalby millions of labs all over the place each with theri own story too....
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[u]Anyway I just hope there is some explanation later on for visiting us 600 years after doing all this and pointing out that moon : S ! [/u] Their visit 680 CE needs no more explanation that any of the other visits. They didn't point to that moon. They showed six stars. Holloway started his premise that the target MUST be around the star MOST LIKE our Sun, and then he simply disregards the others. We are never told if they have similar suns, that are slightly less optimal, but adequate for lie. He is hunting an ideal (almost like he expects it to be 'perfect' like Heaven. If you look at the Scottish cave drawing, The figure appears to be pointing at one star in particular. (there's an argument one can make that this is Zeta 1 Reticuli, and that the bottom right star is Zeta 2 Reticuli -around which is the moon LV 426 where the first two films are set. - and that the one that Holloway picks is the one of the far left, which I think is meant to be Gliese 86 - a real star 10 light years fro Zeta 2, and 35 light years from Earth (which matches the distance the ship travelled)
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Ok well Ill take your word on some of that stuff. I would of thought they would of put that moon lv 223 much further away from the home planet - I mean like they can survive thousands of years in the cryo tubes etc. etc. so you would think it would be further than one of those stars they are pointing to. So that leads me to think they were pointing out the moon or other planets similar to the moon with those domes on. But anyway I just mean ridley mentioned space jesus and theres the hint in the film about 2000 years it all seems to point to we treated jesus badly who was one of them or something like that and it all changed from there and thats why it makes me think there should be a change after around jesus's death and the outbreak on the moon anyway its impossible to formulate an answer I can see - the goo could be to improve us or to destroy - theres a million possible outcomes from this first film : ( - its all too open so far - just will have to wait for more info hopefully from the what is 101112 site and dvd...
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Yes the engineers shows 6 stars. lv223 is 1 of the moons of a ringed gazzplanet (probably more planets? they didn't show) circling one star. nobody sends or shows lv223 in the past, humans look there from earth and think they have the most chance checking out that moon. older mythologies (religions) all over the world talk about higher beings. all of a sudden like jewish there is only one GOD left. but still with angels etc. no there was a jesus here that was thought to be the son of that one god and whereas they were used to gods of fear and vengence, he changed everything into a god of peace and forgiveness etc. now has that something to do in Prometheus? i don't know yet
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The film is a huge success just basd on all the thought and questions it generates...Remember, the monolith in 2001 is only triggered when mankind can tirgger it..So it is with these star maps...At some point, we devloped to be able to go check something out in a far away place....enter the movie....
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And there's the monolith right there on the Isle of Skye, just as we meet Shaw opening a cave with a 35,000 year old map. [img]http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n549/smarty9000/prometheus2/OldManOfStorr1.jpg[/img] But I'm not convinced they are waiting for us to come. I think those big ships with only a few crew, have room for plenty of people inside. [img]http://www.houriganwebworks.com/images/Urns.png[/img] the spacing between urns seems perfect for people, look at how well Shaw fits in there. Now try to imagine 80 - 90 Space jockeys each trying to stand next to one urn in that picture. Doesn't look like a good fit. So, all those trips to Earth, show some people the 3D holograms, let them go back to tell the others, who are curious, then a second trip shortly after, and bring up a bunch of humans to a place where an atmosphere is manufactured to suit them, and lead them to this room, tell them to stand next to an urn. And let the rest happen by itself. Temperature and humidity rises, urns start bleeding the black stuff, and the rest is history.
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Hmm one of a million possibilities - in shaws notes it even has an urn found on earth before she left - just have to wait : ( ...
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Hadleys Hope...you are presenting a very realsitc situation...It is all set up as you say....that also explains human looking heads on top of the dome and inside the room...It is a welcoming device of a sort...a relax, your like kind is here....Good ptential here...thank you Crabfart...you made me wonder as to why didint they leave cansiters of goo inside with these cave drawings? Humans open them up and...?

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