Alien franchise "canon"

I do see where you're coming from, each so-called: 'cut' is left open to interpretation which is ultimately dictated by what is left in and what is taken out, then perhaps re-istated for posterity at a later given date.

I have an idea, but similar to how I started the thread, it's just an idea and open to interpretation and debate. Until a writer/director contradicts what we have seen in the theatrical releases, I am going to assume that introductions such as the cocooning sequence are not canon as far as the lifecycle goes. After all ridley may have said that the cocoon was consuming Dallas and Brent, but he never said they were being turned into eggs...albeit it looks that way. The queen in my mind is canon. Did the queen lay the eggs in the derelict? That could be open to interpretation, after all, that question has never been answered by any of the movies. Canon is a funny thing and can be argued from many angles. When I first posted my desires for stories such as pred 2 and newts tale to be alien canon, some responses were to say that pred and avp etc are not canon...bottom line. This is probably true, yet where the preds are not canon to alien, the trophy room dictates that the alien does exist in the predator universe. Again, it seems that it is up to our interpretation until the writers decide to contradict the known storyline.

just for the record, I'm with Craigamore. I also, don't agree with the re-issued dictats in Guidelines that allows ANY OLD CRAP to be called 'canon' and not be called on. There are two forms of canon; original and adapted -- for me, there was ENOUGH in 'original', without the need to conflate and convolute the 'mythology'. As far as 'adapted' was concerned, "The best part of the post-Alien canon was AVP."

What is the point of having a discussion about "canon", when most people adhere to there own definition of what they consider to be "canon" based upon their own opinions and tastes.

If you consider the cameron adding the Queen not canon, tell me who laid all the eggs inside the spaceship where Kane gets facehugged. A drone of "Kane's sons" size couldn't POSSIBLE lay eggs of that size. If not the Queen then who?

@ snorkelbottom The point of having a conversation about canon is to work out the various perceptions, feelings etc so as to help educate those who are not quite sure what to believe. Right now as it stands, the many movies, books and games have created a universe that does not necessarily contradict itself, but shows clear signs of being a convoluted mess. Until Peter Weyland came around in Prometheus, I was thinking that Charles Weyland and Ms. Yutani from AvP were intended to be canon. Now I am more of the belief that neither really play a part in the universe to come. I always took the comics to reflect certain points of canon, yet at this point I doubt it. The predator 2 trophy scene was so cool when I first saw the movie, but now I am thinking maybe I should look at it as a "just for fun teaser". I didn't realize that there was a cocooning scene until recently, so as you can imagine, I am a little confused as to what is what. At no point have the various writers made clear what the real scoop is, so, I leave it to us, the community to decide. If we could stay on target with the original attempted idea I had for this thread, we would all have looked into our memories of all the various aspects of the franchise and maybe, just maybe we would have added and removed a few things we liked and disliked. Example: I posted my desire to have the trophy room be the first time a human viewed a xeno skull....in a long time anyway. I posted that with the introduction of the queen, I would prefer that the cocooning scene be just what it was, cut out. I posted that Newt's Tale would make a nice buffer between alien and aliens. All that I propose is that members look into their memories for things they liked about the WHOLE franchise and try to piece things together that allow for symmetry in the overall story. Canon if you will. I may not have worded my ideas very well when stating the thread, but as things have progressed, I made my desire for this thread clear. If everyone wants to argue, then argue away. I am trying to get everyone who has the desire to write up a post to reach in there deep and tell us what they liked and disliked about ALL of it. I will bet that many of you can bring up points and ideas that I am not familiar with...I am excited to hear them.

Wiplazh, if the original ALIEN xenomorph can exude 'stuff' to transform Dallas and Brent into EGGS, and decorate Giger-style all around it (so it has something to feed on? (so that the egg has 'lungs' or whatever lungs are for an alien? (so that its race can continue on?))) Remember, at this point in the original ALIEN, the alien realises that 'there aren't too many crewmembers left, and Ash won't taste good or be regurgitatable as 'scenery' or 'egg-making bile' ... and here's an aside, why the alien shoot its second mouth into the frontal lobes? COLLAGEN ... yeah, that stuff ladies get sucked out of their asses and inected into their lips. That was never explored in alien, either, though it's true. Maybe my romantic idea of the alien being a(n X-Files) TOOMS type character, readying himself for hibernation via those few eggs isn't too far fetched after all. THE SHIP ON LV-426 FULL OF EGGS? Well that, to me, looks like a whole clan of aliens sending their legacy out into the stars using the ELEPHANTINE Space Jockey hyperspace telescopers -- believe me, they intended to land on LV-426. :)