Alien Movie Universe
Talk about Alien: Romulus / Alien: EarthJoin our forum! Ask your questions / Start a discussion here!
Join In

Nuclear Powered Ion Plasma Engines

1978 Views8 Replies
Forum Topic

FenGiddel of Ganz

MemberOvomorphJul-22-2012 8:09 PM
When Janek, Chance, and Ravel are readying the ship for a collision course with the alien ship, Janek says something about using the ship's engines in a certain mode. One of the pilots is astonished at this, since it is obviously dangerous and out of protocol. Janek wants to do it since it gives the ship more thrust. Anybody remember exactly what Janek's order is that reveals his intent to use the engines in this manner to ensure prompt interception with the escaping Engineer?
8 Replies

aircraftfixer

MemberOvomorphJul-22-2012 11:16 PM
I don't remember enough to quote it exactly. But it was something about using the engines in a manner unauthorized (out of protocol) while still in a planetary atmosphere. This order was bizarre probably because of the present condition of the engines nuclear reactor cores. The ship was "at rest" and the engines weren't yet critical, but the emergency situation required the crew to "hot start" the reactor cores and achieve hypercritical status in a hurry, instead of taking the normal amount of time. Dangerous because it required the engines to suddenly operate beyond their rated power without first having overcome inertia. It was certain that the engines; as well as the attach points of the engines, would be over-stressed. Very uncool if they ever want to use the engines again. The two pilots reacted to the command out of training or just habit because it was unorthodox. But were resigned to the fact that it was the last time the engines would be needed, as it was a suicide sortie.

Indy John

MemberOvomorphJul-22-2012 11:27 PM
"..But were resigned to the fact that it was the last time the engines would be needed, as it was a suicide sortie..." Shaw implying there may be nothing to go home to created an immediate and fatal command to be given..and executed.. How the engines might react to such a short warm up,,but being inspired by the Juggernaut take off....was not a concern for .Janek it was a job that must be done.. Anything to keep the Engineer's ship to get to earth...and keep all of the destructive 'goo' on the moon..
Be choicelessly aware as you move through life

zzplural

MemberOvomorphJul-22-2012 11:45 PM
Don't quote me 100% on this but it was something quite close to "power up the ion drive". Today's ion drives are all the range in deep space exploration but they are useless for delivering powerful thrust (they deliver continuous but feeble amounts of thrust for months on end). However, that is not to say that in 80 years time, such drives won't be continuous [i]and[/i] powerful. The implication is that the ion drive was disabled when they were landing (since they were in atmosphere). So, turning it on to ram the juggernaut would be to give them an extra kick, I presume.
The most terrifying fact about the universe is not that it is hostile but that it is indifferent

FenGiddel of Ganz

MemberOvomorphJul-28-2012 8:03 PM
I did not realize current ion drives were low thrust. I also didn't think about the reactors being in standby and warming them up so the ship could ram the Juggernaut at full thrust seems like similar to sitting on a ticking bomb. Good thing Janek and his crew were a good team since a second's rebellion would've probably lost them the chance. Great info, folks!

zzplural

MemberOvomorphJul-29-2012 9:08 AM
Update: The actual instruction given is "Warm up the ion propulsion". It was indeed fortunate that the captain and his pilots were willing to give up their lives so easily, and with so little time to come to a decision. Some people regard that as being unbelievable, but Janek is a very bright guy with high moral scruples. The banter that followed after the decision was made is called 'gallows humour'.
The most terrifying fact about the universe is not that it is hostile but that it is indifferent

Indy John

MemberOvomorphDec-18-2012 6:59 AM
THe thing about the nJanek charactor he just sees to be so cautious during other aspects of the movie. He was certainly motivated to take out the Juggernaut and his crew when he knew the time was right. I sort of wonder if he felt his crew would stay with him to the end.. If I was in Janek's shoes I mught have had a bit concern for Chance and Revel survival even if it was on this moon. Perhaps everybody but Vickers could see that this was the time to act and they had little option. Vickers trying to escape her destruction in the Prometheus just sort delayed her fate to where she was destroyed by theother spaceship , the Juggernaut
Be choicelessly aware as you move through life

Indy John

MemberOvomorphDec-18-2012 10:19 AM
".. 'gallows humour'." I just viewed the Gallows humor you mentioned and it sort of fit the scene. What I did notice during this viewing is that Janek actually smiles when 'Your a shit pilot.." is spoken. He has quite a grin when he knows his crew will stay with him til the end.
Be choicelessly aware as you move through life

BLANDCorporatio

MemberOvomorphDec-19-2012 10:12 AM
Ion propulsion is a weird choice for turning one into a bullet, yeah. As mentioned, ion drives are very low thrust. The up-side, and why they're very popular for deep-space, is that they have very high exhaust velocity. In general, the useful power of a (rocket)ship's engine will be split between providing thrust (which is good for take-off from a planet) and exhaust velocity (which is good for economically achieving desired orbits in deep space). A more plausible choice to turn the Prometheus into a bullet is nuclear propulsion. But really, when you've got magical FTL tachyonic engines, who cares about minor tech quibbles.
The whole point of this is lost if you keep it a secret.
Add A Reply
Sign In Required
Sign in using your Scified Account to access this feature!
Email
Password
Latest Images
Community Stats
This Alien Movie Universe community is part of the Scified network. Scified hosts a network of online fan-site communities containing 405,959 posts by 48,259 members (2 are online now). The Alien: Romulus Forum is the most recently active forum. The latest Forum topic added was: Alien: Romulus VFX breakdown by ILM
VIPWhat are VIP?AdminModeratorSpecial TitleMember
Alien & Predator Alien & Predator Fandom
Latest Features
Alien: Romulus Spoilers Updated 2024-08-18 08:33:57
Alien: Romulus Movie Trailers Updated 2024-07-18 11:51:15
Get Tickets for Alien: Romulus! Updated 2024-07-11 12:11:21
Everything we know about Alien: Romulus Updated 2024-06-15 10:35:44
Alien Movie Universe Forums
Alien: Romulus
Alien: Romulus Discuss the new Fede Alvarez Alien movie here
Prometheus
Prometheus Everything About Prometheus
Alien: Covenant
Alien: Covenant Discuss the Prometheus Sequel, Alien: Covenant
Alien: Earth Series
Alien: Earth Series Discuss the Alien FX TV series here!
Prometheus Fan Art
Prometheus Fan Art Artwork & Fiction From the Fans
Alien
Alien Discuss all things Alien here
Alien Movies
Alien Movies Discuss the Classic Alien Films
Alien Games
Alien Games Discuss Alien games here
Alien 5 Movie
Alien 5 Movie Discuss Neill Blomkamps’s vision for Alien 5 here
Hot Forum Topics
New Forum Topics
Highest Forum Ranks Unlocked
Thoughts_Dreams
Thoughts_Dreams » Neomorph
87% To Next Rank
Neomorph
Neomorph » Chestburster
91% To Next Rank
damiendada
damiendada » Ovomorph
66% To Next Rank
leibek
leibek » Ovomorph
26% To Next Rank
goutzizizi
goutzizizi » Ovomorph
21% To Next Rank
Latest Alien Fandom Activity

This website provides the latest information, news, rumors and scoops on the Alien: Romulus movie and Alien TV series for FX! Get the latest news on the Alien prequels, sequels, spin-offs and more. Alien movie, game and TV series news is provided and maintained by fans of the Alien film franchise. This site is not affiliated with 20th Century Studios, FX, Hulu, Disney or any of their respective owners.

© 2025 Scified.com
Sign in
Use your Scified Account to sign in


Log in to view your personalized notifications across Scified!

Transport To Communities
Alien Hosted Community
Cloverfield Hosted Community
Godzilla Hosted Community
Jurassic World Hosted Community
Predator Hosted Community
Aliens vs. Predator Hosted Community
Latest Activity
Forums
Search Scified
Trending Articles
Blogs & Editorials
Featured Forum Discussions
Forums & Community
Sci-Fi Movies
Help & Info