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Chris

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I know this has been discussed from alternate angles already. But, it just occurred to me recently that maybe the evidence to support our theory has been in front of us all along. That theory being, that Prometheus' sequel is in fact titled "PARADISE" and that is was filmed alongside Prometheus all in one go. Let's recap: 1 - Security for Prometheus' filming was very strict. Not much got out. What did get leaked was quickly removed. 2- For a good year, the film was untitled, going by "Alien Prequel" for ages until about 2 years back, the official title "PROMETHEUS" was revealed to the public. 3- Later on, we learned that the "original title" of Prometheus was "PARADISE" before being renamed to Prometheus, relatively last-minute. Okay, point #3 doesn't site well with me. Why change the name last minute? And if it was last minute, WHY did we see set photos of some "Clapboards" or "Movie Markers" entitled with PARADISE? That means they were filming with Paradise as being their working title... Yet, wouldn't the name change take place before the filming begins? Doesn't that occur in the scripting stage? Now, I'm not very knowledgeable about these processes as some of you might be, and I do realize that the "Return of the Jedi" was named that even after filming wrapped up, but still. Seems odd to me. Also, in various other threads supporting this theory - some filming locations were never seen int he film. It seems silly to me, that Ridley had full scale model sets built for Prometheus, which could be re-used in Paradise - only to have them torn down, to be rebuilt at a later time when filming for Paradise begins. This to me seems like a waste of time, money and effort - something studios are not fond of doing. It's all about efficient use of time, space and resources and with movies like AVATAR and MAD MAX sequels being filmed simultaneously, it wouldn't surprise me if this was the case with Paradise as well. So, all this being said and with supporting discussions by other members which can be found in these forums, it is certainly possible that part of, if not all of Paradise was already filmed and ready for "relaunch" sometime soon. Could it be 10.11.12? Personally, I doubt it. As Prometheus will not have hit every country by that time yet it would seem silly, marketing wise. Some need to wait quite a while before seeing Prometheus to begin with. But will we get a teaser trailer perhaps? Maybe. Anything is possible. Maybe a link to Paradise can be found in the collector's edition BluRay - who knows. But it certainly raises some questions. Any thoughts on this? Any theories to add? Post them below.

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I have said this for a long time, I belive it was filmed in advance because it has been the trend to do so for a decade, starting with Lord of The Rings. It is a smart move and the best way to keep a cast together for clips, flashbacks etc.

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Another great thread to support this can be found here: [url]http://www.prometheus-movie.com/community/forums/topic/9186[/url] The mysterious 3 month of filming which just "vanished" from the final product. Can't hide something like that.

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Yeeeeeehaaa!!! yippie!!! skippity skip skip best news all week!!! *)
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Chris, nice one, Where are these Prometheus on set clapboard shots with PARADISE as the title?
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I believed that 10 11 12 we can see the trailer about the sequel..
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film names change all the time. "paradise" on a clap board doesnt go very far in convincing me that two movies were done at the same time. Also, the budget is a bit problematic. 130 million bucks for two ridley scott films (ridley is known for being a bit pricey with all of his practical effects etc etc.) just doesnt seem possible. Prometheus established the visual aesthetic of any subsequent films. There is absolutely zero reason to think that a second film would just be some rehashed sets and a ton of cgi. frankly, i doubt ridley would have anything to do with that (and it would just be a horrible idea anyways). If a second film has been made, there is no way the 130 million bucks was for both films. I so hope some of you are correct and somehow a second film was shot, but my gut (as well as most of the evidence we have at our disposal) just says no. What 10.11.12 is...i have no idea. I just cant imagine. They have built it up as some sort of big reveal. If its just some bullshit marketing for some toys and home video junk, the 10.11.12 campaign will COMPLETELY backfire on the studio/scott/the franchise etc. And frankly, scott and company cant afford to piss people off any more than they already have (just to qualify my statement, im a big fan of prometheus). I think the best we could possibly hope for on 10.11.12 is an announcement of an official greenlight on the sequel and some teaser viral material/scenes relating to said sequel. hmmm...i just had a thought. Probably not the case, but ill say it anyways. Even though my gut tells me that the mystery location/missing 3 months is just some sort of anomoly/cancelled shoot, its possible that location/time was used to film some of the supplemental/viral material that may (hopefully) be revealed on 10.11.12. Kinda like the TED conference stuff. Maybe they shot some teaser stuff to establish some motifs for the second film. Maybe we will get some kind of cryptic trailer that gives us a taste of what will be coming (but not be part of the actual sequel itself). Clearly, whatever 10.11.12 is, the whole idea was conceived of prior to the completion of prometheus (seeing as how 10.11.12 was placed at the end of prometheus). Like i said, i really dont think a sequel is in the can. And i am frankly worried about a sequel getting made at all. Having said that, in the interest of positive thinking, im going to suggest that 10.11.12 will reveal some footage that was shot for the sole purpose of getting people excited for another film that will be declared "green lit" on the same day. Sigh...now im going to go back to anticipating that 10.11.12 will reveal the release of the latest prometheus styled monopoly game.
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You're right JoeyJoe. The evidence we have to work with is not enough to validate an entire film. But who's to say it "couldn't" happen? However I like your take better as a matter of fact - with 10.11.12 being the start of another set of virals used to further insinuate a sequel is "green lit". However, 3 months is a long time for shooting a few 5 minute viral clips. There has to be more to it. Ridley may be known for being pricey with his work - which leads me to believe that filming at least parts of PARADISE along side Prometheus would be so ideal and beneficial, financially for the studio to do. It'd be rather smart too as the studio would save a ton of money and profit exponentially on a sequel film. That's far more than 2 birds and 1 stone - that'd be a mega pay-day. I think you're right about some things Joe - mainly your take on the 10.11.12 campaign. I'm very eager to know what it's about! Could it be a "part of Prometheus" following the events of Prometheus where we see the inclusion of YUTANI? Perhaps it's a small vid showing back on Earth, Weyland and Yutani merging? Cause Yutani was definitely mentioned in the preceedin viral campaigns and updated film synopsis - yet no screen time in Prometheus itself. I wonder...

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if Yutani-part of Prometheus/Paradise were to use SET AS WAS in an altered form (maybe) as discussed in my thread [url=http://www.prometheus-movie.com/community/forums/topic/9186]Paradise Already Filmed[/url] then maybe there wouldn't be too much of an over-budget issue, anyway. Most of the money went on Set and Effects, right? Has anyone analysed the effects budget for 'additional shots' that didn't make it into the film? [img]http://cdn.bloody-disgusting.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/prometheus_elder-1.jpg[/img] Other than ^^^that bloke, were there any OTHER ACTORS hired for Prometheus who were 'cut from the film' or other such gossip of secret hirings? Any (Yutani) designs we haven't seen yet? Yutani logo was pasted ALL OVER the Shaw/Holloway virals suggesting counter espionage on the part of Yutani surveillance or Yutani insurgence - why have we heard SO LITTLE about Yutani in the build up to Prometheus. Conspicuous by its absence?
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To be honest, i also agree the 10.11.12 better be big, else it'll turn very disapointing. I really want a longer Prometheus BluRay, i'd love a sequel as well. I see 2 things could happen there at the same time. Yutani arriving on lv 223. (or 2xx i forgot) meeting saint niklas. And Shaw and David getting to the Engineer world, where Ridley Scott already stated, they will NOT find what they thought they would. I hope to much of it, can't be good :s
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Its definitely on the cards that something bigger could happen - but allot of things are pointing at a TV spin off i.e. the new viral actors looking like TV actors etc. so my money is still on that but I am hoping for a 2nd part - it would explain allot! Yutani is being held back for something I feel to but it could just also be for the next film in the future not this year. The line at the back of the art of prometheus book is interesting when you think about this whole situation quote: "I'm thinking about what the hell I might do for a Prometheus 2.." now if he is faking that it could become such a cool thing to do and look at after it comes out this year. But if hes not whoa it really was that bad? He doesn't have an over all idea wow - we are in trouble?! hmmmm...
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I will say this, Ridley is a very savvy businessman, and he knows how the studios work. If the economics of filming the sequel made sense, he would have done it.
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@ crabfart... A $130 million dollar movie being used to spearhead a TV spin off, in a period when virtually every other TV show is getting axed (Chuck, Fringe, Alcatraz, Stargate etc.)... I don't think so. Turning the Prometheus/Alien franchise into a TV serial is the worst possible idea EVER, even FOX aren't that stupid.

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Ahhhhhhh........... I dunno about that Snork............. They allowed Ridley to hire Lindelof remember.............. But yeah I hope not.......................
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Maybe because there's lots of axed series there's a gap for it! Allot of those series were old and flagging new blood is needed! And FOX are that stupid :P but it could be a good idea if done right...it is strange that they have unknown actors for the virals when they used the real actors before for prometheus virals. But like I said I am unsure its close between something bigger and the TV series for me.
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snorkel, they've just announced WONDER WOMAN tv-series (it was gonna be a film reboot) :) There's no reason why they couldn't announce a PROMETHEUS tv-series - call it PARADISE, job done. There is ENOUGH STORY to fill such a 'stargate universe' type narrative of 'where we came from' and 'what's the war like now'.
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Wonder Woman was always a TV series, there's not enough of a fan base to warrant a movie, the only real reason to have a Wonder Woman movie was because of the possibility of Megan Fox in the title role, but after she walked out on the Transformers films she went from hot property to a low budget nobody.

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@joeyjoe +1.
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Snorkel, (excuse the temporary thread derailment) from your avatar, I think you'd be interested in a book by Gene Brewer called K-PAX4 - [url=http://scene360.com/articles/6196/k-pax-iv/]I reviewed it for Scene360 magazine[/url], now back to this (enthralling) thread.
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That's a possibility but I think they wouldn't have time for that and it's impressive how everyone including ridley himself are keeping it secret... But, anyway, it's a possibility and it is supported by some facts like the way ridley talks about the sequel...it seems like he did it already...
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he uses the phrase THIS PARTICULAR SCRIPT in the making-of-like Prometheus Featurette. Does this imply that there's ANOTHER SCRIPT that he's used already that he's yet to be interviewed about? rubs chin...
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