A Second Viewing: The Sacrifice of a Masterpiece

I agree with you 100 percent Patch, the pacing was one of my issues with the film, there was no brooding sense of menace throughout like the original Alien had, the music was woefully inadequate for the setting, it was too light and airy and Star Trek-ish, I didn't feel any connection to any of the characters really, yeah Fassy was good as David and Noomi as Shaw but I actually cared about each of the characters on the Nostromo, even Ash, though I was always highly suspicious of him. But yes, it was way too rushed. Needed at least another half hour.

This was my major problem with the movie as well, it REALLY needed at least 45 min more to just give the viewer time to digest what was going on.

Chiming in on what Svanya said. I also agree, when I visit a new city, or take a vacation I try to see everything possible. Get a feeling for the place, it's people, the vibe. In Prometheus, I wanted to see what life was like for people living at the end of this century. Show me a little more about this human race that's expanded by the millions to colonies throughout the stars. It didn't feel like there was a reason for the supporting cast other than driving the story along and adding to the body count.

No problem with the pacing for me. I would have loved more but I realize that the movie industry is not about pleasing the small number of film goers who enjoy the things I enjoy. Hell, I realize it's not about pleasing anyone. It's about money. Regardless of that fact I had no problem with the pacing. I agree that RS had to do certain things making this film. He had a lot he had to take care of. He had to make a film he was proud of and thought would honor the franchise. He had to make a film that would somewhat appease the built in audience the franchise comes with. He had to please a new, younger audience which may or may not be very familiar-if at all-with the past films. He had to please the studio. All this while trying to lay down a foundation where these ideas can be explored in a franchise. Personally, I think he did a magnificent job regardless of all this let alone in light of it all.

I totally agree with breaking the monotony of the franchise but I think that Scott should ask someone else to rewrite the script. Certainly needed something new and provocative but with a better script would have been any better. On the other hand, why the classification R? Why Ridley says that the goal is to scare the living shit? I honestly would have preferred a PG-13, with more money and a longer and epic result. It would be interesting to see deeper into the characters of Engineers, because these almost seem cold and lifeless robots. David has more life to them LOL. If the sequel is going to be short so I hope it's a very dark and scary movie. If FOX can not do that then I prefer something more larger and in a big scale. Sorry but it's my honest opinion. regards

Excellent observation. I can't believe I still read posts about this movie.

Pace was serious issue. Even cam movies or conspiracy movies are planned better than prometheus. Look at battleship, chronicle, hunger games, etc. Hell even twilights build up was good lol. I am only waiting for the graphics, I am sure RS and CGI team did good job over there. That said, imagine the prologue to be revealed inside the temple when fifield and shaw fights and then look at the wall drawing and signs for that story, after the observe hollogram sequence. That part could have been better as it worked out for the AVP. It also gives the temple the feel that we were searching for. In current movie the temple looks more like some greek temple where people wander during their holidays. No dark feel, no fear for creature nothing at all. Another thing is that many parts were arranged in wrong order, like shaw's dream and introduction of crew once they reached to prometheus. I mean seriously? you are bringing them together at one place after taking them out of cryosleep where all the crew was there already? That is the problem with writing from people who make TV series and B grade movies.

@Shambhala, I think the scenes that made it R movie add a lot to it, and are amazing scenes that did freak me out. Ive seen it 5 times, and came to a coclusion that the one and only thing missing is the impact of Giger's designs on the walls in the pyramid. He did not work on these, and it shows. But yea hes too old to work on it I guess..

there was a Christmas tree ... what more do you people need?

@Sky: [i]"I mean seriously? you are bringing them together at one place after taking them out of cryosleep where all the crew was there already? That is the problem with writing from people who make TV series and B grade movies." [/i] What are you suggesting? That Vickers should have done her pep talk while they were puking up on the edge of their cryo tubes?

Back story done in the style of 'Aliens' is passe. Times have moved on. Ridley used the internet for the 'backstory' pf Shaw and Weyland. Also, some of the back story is in the dream-voyeuring David does.

Yes should of rethought it - it did seem rushed and muddled and with only 2 writers in the chain it felt like ridley and lindelof had such status that no one challenged them before it went to production :(. But heres hoping there was an overall plan hiding in the background ! Still cant bring myself to watch it for a 2nd time yet but I will - hopfully with a re-cut :D !

Thats spot on with my thoughts. The movie for me had these flaws that held it back from being a Masterpeice. 1) Time restraints/Budget The movies scope and story needed a longer run time to cover it, i felt the movie needed about 3 hours or indeed a two part 1hr45 mins. 2) Lindelof There is some elements of his style of writing that has left its mark on the movie and i mean some plot holes. The Ambiguity was fine, just mainly use of Characters and Characters performing out of character. 3) Butchered at the Edit Room. The movie seems to not flow well, it just looked like something was missing in a number of scenes that never added up. It was as if someone just went and cut bits and pieces out of scenes. And low and behold that was the case, at least 20 mins was cut from the movie and also their was some alternative scenes that i feel would have made the movie better. These inc... 1) The Longer and more Alien Looking Fifield Attack/Mutation. 2) The full Sacrificial Engineer scene with dialog and Elders. 3) The full David and Engineer scene, two way dialog. 4) The full Engineer and Shaw attack scene. It also could appear that there may have been alternative hanger scene and also Engineer attack on Ford Scene. Add those things back and i think the movie would look better, but i understand why some was left out of the movie.... Save Elders for Prometheus 2, Fifield looked to Alien in DNA, Shaw Attack scene made Engineer look not as awe inspiring. But surely the Dialog between David and Engineer should been kept, unless again it revealed more information that they want to keep for Prometheus 2. The Franchise has a lot of potential mind.

@spacejock Apparently Ridley had to alter and cut some scenes out and down in order to get the movie to under 18s Some of the attack scenes came across lame and does not even touch the AVP movies as far as gruesomeness. I dont think Ridley would have intended that and proclaimed the movie will scare you. So i do think some scenes had been changed, a prime example of that is Ford, the actress had said she meets a horrific death. We also see in some of the behind scenes videos they render Fords Head. Why bother CGI Ford just so she gets pushed across the floor... really would that kill her? Also note that prior to the push Ford was having a fit. I therefore think there was another scene where something much more graphic happened to Ford, and maybe something far worse than David getting his head torn off.

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I dont know..... some of the trailers showed her to be shaking as if she was having convulsions and they did do a CGI of her head..... And look at how she died, i mean being pushed across the room, i doubt would killed her. I have no proof other than there was a CGI head shot and she looked to be having a fit. We dont know why that was, maybe the Engineer used mind control to make her head explode or maybe she had been infected we just dont know. There is also a interview with the Special Effects out there where they said one seen we see someones head explode (could that be the Engineer head they found/) and another where someones head is smashed in pieces on the floor (Fifield did smash one guys head in but hardly that gory).

Sky, the 'bringing them together' on site like that, without anyone seeming to know what side they're shooting for, is a classic intelligence or covert operation. I suspect very very few people at Weyland were in the NEED TO KNOW loop for the Prometheus mission ... I also suspect Shaw/Holloway were working for Yutani as counter-intel assets. LOL

@aurorian Not a problem, I anticipate and like the broad strokes our members lay out for us to enjoy and ponder. Still need that link of Ford.... AAAHHHHH!!!!

@BigDave do you have a url of the trailer of Ford? I would love to view that.... please!!! Thanks for posting... In fact thank you everyone for posting your views on this thread. I always appreciate the time you take to write down your thoughts/ideas/theories.

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