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Is there anything else we can take from the deleted scene video? - Is it filling

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MVMNT

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So for those who've not seen it, FreePlanet has just linked THIS VIDEO OF DELETED SCENES [url=http://io9.com/5942004/10-minutes-of-deleted-prometheus-scenes-reveal-a-whole-crew-of-pissed-off-scientists]NEW LINK ADDED FROM IO9.COM HERE[/url] 10 minutes from the 40 promised. The one thing i've noticed was at 8:10 "Maybe you should look at the thing squealing next door" So the huge, huge gap where we thought Shaw had this somehow secret pregnancy to Cuddles, with everyone elses totally unawares WAS addressed. Be intereting to see how and why this may have been cut at the expense of the continuity that stuck out like a sore thumb. Anyone else garner more from those deleted scenes?

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I am glad to notice that there was a plot, dialogue and some sort of logic consequentiality before the theatrical cut was made.
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Looked pretty interesting, had to watch it without sound due to being in a computer lab. Have to watch again when i get home or perhaps not due to wanting to see all deleted scenes at once :)

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Yeah, they obviously knew about the giant squid being onboard. It seems that Weyland and/or Vickers wanted to take it back for the bio-weapons division.

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I just can't stand that Holloway...They just found an unknown alien species and he's calling the whole thing a failure and starts drinking himself lazarus??? And he's now constantly arguing with Shaw and stuff. What a... ah forget it.
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Possibly, there might be another sequence where Shaw is told that Cuddles is still alive and being kept inside the Med Room. That would better explain her curiosity when she peeps through the window after she boards the crashed life-boat.
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thx for the link MVMNT!
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There going to be 40 minutes - ok now my interest levels are rising a bit! That 10 minutes was actually interesting in bits - although most of it was a bit bland - theres some bits there that would add to the film - sweet! Although that bit were they start kissing made me squirm a bit! Some of it made me hate Halloway more but at teh same time he actually brings up questions that make me like him more for the first time :O ! I wonder if the elder scenes are part of them - as Ridley is correctly redesigning them completely I hear? Ah man they soo need to do a DC and get it out fast - wanaa see if this can become almost a classic - must admit I was hoping to see milburn and fifield getting off there nuts to explain the hammerpede part :S ....

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My favorite is really the scene with Fifield and Milburn when they discover the 'Alien Cocoon' on the ground.. that begs a whole new set of questions! And also, Holloway comes across as even more of an ass, haha.
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40mins , if true, can explain a whoooole lot. Can't wait!!
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@ Chris, ain't that the truth. He is now my least favourite alien-franchise character of all time. Congratulations Hollow Way...
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the DISCOVERED SKIN SCENE alone suggests that 'something has already taken place' and some THING has already GROWN before Millburn and Mohawk are 'adjusted' ... is there a massive missing narrative thread/eradication here? Holloway's, "Remember, we were supposed to TALK TO THEM," is intriguing, and yes he truly is shown to be even more c**tish than his brief-er role in the theatrical cut.
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Is it not the hammerpede skin? I assume they molted as they grew.
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Hammerpede should have been MUCH BIGGER if it had already 'shed such a topologically vast skin to grow', no? :)
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That has to be the Hammerpede's skin. Finding the fresh skin probably contributed to Milburn's confidence when encountering the Hammerpede. He was able to anticipate that live alien lifeforms were present in the structure. That doesn't explain why he approached the extraterrestrial life so poorly, but it might explain why he wasn't overly surprised or startled by finding a living creature.
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Yeah when Vickers mentions the "Thing squealing next door" or when David is there to hear Shaw talk about the world creation story "The people asked the sun, why did you make me" and he repeats those lines to Charlie later in context to his own creation. We also see how angry Charlie is and why. These scenes REALLY tie the movie together. Those were all issues I had with the movie, it seemed broken. I really hate they can't just release a movie properly in theatres...

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The skin found actually is the perfect size for the hammerpede, if you go by the shed skins of real snakes.
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I hear that ten-minute VIMEO is about to be 'removed from the internet', so I've taken down my post ref'ing it - in case you were wondering. :)
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The link seems to be down now... Shame i never saw it, it appears that many of these cuts actually are the reasons for a number of the plot holes. So they not so much plot holes.... just holes in the actual film because of the cuts made.

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This just made me love Shaw and hate Holloway. What an ASS !!! But I like the emotion in Noomis slap x2. . .so sad the engineer scenes weren't here :'(

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@NoxWord: Good to see you back! Only just noticed your comment and I'm thinking it also explains how or why Vickers isn't making it into the big Life Boat, (which contains the MedPod) before Janek gives order to eject it. Nice little gap filled there, well spotted...
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Wow love them all, PROEMTHEUS is the very first movie about space, were i like human dialogue and scenes without getting bored
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Like most of you here, I agree and think a lot of the deleted scenes being show here added a lot more cohesion to the story and fleshed out Shaw, Holloway and Vickers' characters a lot better. I especially liked the molted skin scene and the alternate cut of Shaw and Holloway in their room. She sheds more light into what happened to the Engineers with talk about an infection and what happened in the tunnels when they first went in (video playback). I really think they had a more complete narrative to begin with, before they became so concerned with the running time of it. Shame they did such a hatchet job of editing the theathrical release. I hope they go back and piece together a true director's cut from the scenes that were cut including the alternate mutated Fifield, that looks sick!
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I also believe the extended/added scene for Milburn and Fifield is helping since they don't seem to have much dialogue there, haha! Of course I'd always rather not have them in the movie in the first place, unless they would be replaced by two more serious, skilled scientists, surely less tacky and cheesy altogether. I still think that most of their screen time is a total waste and utterly unnecessary. If the plot needed characters just to be killed off, there were plenty of others available. 5-6 well developed characters and a total runtime of 2h40m would have been perfect! No offense to the actors intended, it is not their fault as they're both great, just not in this flick.
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I sincerely hope we see M & F socialise more in the cut scenes. For example see them playing UNO while waiting inside the pyramid, at least it would make sense, given the lack of love those two characters suffered from the authors.
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...and as result of this for each other, haha!
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The question was if it helps us piece together the film. To me: definitely yes. If this doesn't prove beyond any doubt that the theatrical release was butchered on Purpose then what will ? The other thing I don't get is where was this footage obtained from ? I thought the only DVD that had the extended cut scenes was the DVD that will be released on 8/9 October this year ? Another "accident" ? I say this just to keep record: I believe that prometheus is a "sequel" to alien happening in the future. It is what Ridley would have done had he been given the chance to do an alien sequel. My point being that we will see the final life cycle of the Xenomorph - how the victims get injected to morph maybe even see how it happens - finishing what should have happened 25-28 years ago. In so doing we will bypass all this canon nonsense and Ridley will tell us the story he has always wanted to tell us. That's why I think that alien(director's cut) and Prometheus will form the basis of what happens in p1 - p2 - p3 up to a1 and will not lend from a2 - a4 or avp series. Ridley wants to do his own thing - make his own mythology that moves away from everything after alien. I particularly think this might be a good thing !!! Well now we have to wait for the dvd to see if I am right !! OP Good question
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Sorry but what extactly makes you think that Prometheus is set after ALIEN? I didn't quite catch that. Regarding your question, DVD's leak out way before official release all the time. It just happened with The Hunger Games, there was a HD quality rip circulating on the net 3 weeks prior to release. You must have heard that Prometheus will be available for digital download from iTunes and via other sources fairly soon. That copy also contains the extra/deleted scenes so someone must have got hold of it an has put it online.
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I don't litteraly mean after alien only as a showing from Ridley Scott that this is what he would have wanted to do IF HE HAD BEEN GIVEN THE CHOICE TO MAKE AN ALIEN SEQUEL. No prometheus happened before alien. It is only my thought that if Ridley had done the alien sequel in 1986 it would have had a lot of the elements of Prometheus in it - I believe we wil see the final adult stage of the xenomorph in p1. But the only way he could have done it was going back in the past as giler and co messed up everything. Only a thought .
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Hal 9000 A copy of the online downloadable version. Thanks for that !!! Isn't that going to kill DVD sales ? What I mean is : isn't it stupid to release an online downloadable version of the movie a few weeks before the DVD is released ?
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Yes that certainly does, that's why we all don't download or spread pirate copies around here! Nudge nudge, wink wink. As for the official digital download, I don't think it will affect the DVD sales too much as they're not as great in quality as well as they might not have the full content of the box sets, and obviously the true collector will miss out on a nice looking box, too. It's just for those who really cannot wait any longer. But like I said, there might be a slight influence on the sales, which is what I'm struggling to understand just as well, it's a fairly new concept, at least I haven't seen this before. As for the issue with Scott's involvement in prequels and sequels to ALIEN, I now get what you mean, I might have misunderstood you slightly there before. But then again, it feels wrong to think of ALIEN sandwiched between those all new versions, re-telling an old story. What's done is done and I think Scott has come to terms with it. So, he's taking us all on a new journey and I like that very much... Haven't we all seen enough Xenomorphs, Eggs, Chestbursters and Facehuggers in all kinds of situations? I personally have and I'm excited to hopefully soon get answers about the chap in the armchair!
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Thanks HAL 9000 Erratra: "I believe that prometheus is a "sequel" to alien happening in the future." Should have read: "I say this just to keep record: I believe that prometheus is a "sequel" to alien happening in the PAST." Thanks for questioning it. Apologies !!
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"What I mean is : isn't it stupid to release an online downloadable version of the movie a few weeks before the DVD is released" Not really because you can legitimately download copies from say places like Itunes and the like. A legit downloaded and paid for movie can be pirated and spread on the internet just like a pre screener DVD, sometimes some video shops etc get a copy sent to them prior to DVD retail, some who receive legally these DVDs then copy them and distribute them on the net. So i dont think companies allowing digital downloads for a price, is going to have much greater effect than the usual means that someone would use to pirate a DVD release.

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The thing is though while these scenes add to and cover up some so called plot holes... They now also open up more lol.... So Vickers knew about Shaws C-Section prior to Weyland setting off down to the Temple. Ok i would assume they wanted it locked in the room so they can take it back as a sample. But then so many of the other crew seem oblivious to it. Also it is now hinted that the Engineer who lost his head was infected. Why did the others let him get so close then, as he nearly made it through the door and inevitably those who made it may not have been saved anyway as its hinted there was no Engineers left apart from the one and yet we see the others piled up, so something got lose or more than one Engineer was infected. The other thing this opens up is, well Shaw seems to figure that some kind of a outbreak occurred and the Engineer got infected. However as part of the examination where they determined his genetics not only matched ours but also predated ours, it appears they never found in those test any abnormal in his genetics that confirmed a infection or mutation. Again thats maybe reading into it far too much, and the scenes was simply a plot device to tie up ends and explain things.... such as how Janek says the place was a Military Outpost.... on what evidence? None really its just said with so much stuff so we get to know roughly whats going on.

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I've updated the link to this one [url=http://io9.com/5942004/10-minutes-of-deleted-prometheus-scenes-reveal-a-whole-crew-of-pissed-off-scientists]here[/url]
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@MVMNT: Cheers for updating the link, good work. From now on it will be over the net like mushrooms in autumn! @BigDave: I reckon the other crew was convinced that keeping the squid in the medlab was safe enough, if they even knew about it. Remember it was still trapped in there after the life boat had crash landed on the surface of LV-223. Weyland/Vickers on the other hand probably had enough other things on their minds. Not sure if the whole 'conspiracy/bad intentions' attitude from either Weyland and/or Vickers has been established at this point, especially without any involvement from Yutani. I mean in context of bringing back the organism and wrap it up nicely for the bioweapons dpt. Hmm, but now I'm thinking why was Vickers in such a rush to leave? Darn! Furthermore, think about the dead Engineers, didn't either Milburn or Fifield say something like they all looked like they exploded from the inside? To stir things up even further, what were they so desperately trying to get to anyway? Those rooms stored all the black goo 'bioweapons' to begin with, or might there have been an anti-serum in there, too? Or something inside the big head that maybe could have saved them? Jeronimo! Anyway, I always assumed that they simply used too much energy or whatever wrong settings on their synapse reestablisher thingie, it never occured to me that they simply also brought back to life an existing infection or mutation process. I really thought they simply blew his mind. Very interesting indeed! Regarding Janek's evidence, I think there was plenty. First, all things that happened to his crew members, then the huge amount of ampules in the temples as well as aboard the Juggernaut's cargo bays. And the fact that they had set course/navigation for Earth says enough on its own, no?
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Just watched the 10 mins of deleted scenes...all I can say is WOW! The Shaw/Holloway and the Vickers/Weyland scenes are fantastic...why theses scenes were cut is beyond me. This movie begs for a directors cut...or extended cut. Hopefully some one will assemble one soon after the Blu- ray release.
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I liked seeing more of the characters for sure, Janek had a lot of dialog cut which I find unfortunate. For sure will go down being my favorite Captain of Prometheus!
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PS: I actually like the [url=http://www.prometheus-movie.com/community/forums/topic/10186]NEW (cuter, cuddlable, concerned*) HOLLOWAY[/url]. *if still drunk
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