welcome to immortality

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MemberOvomorphOctober 06, 20121169 Views9 Replieswhat happened to it?
when was it introduced, as a driving sales concept?
when was it scrubbed from all marketing and why did this happen?
I'm talking, of course, about the near-OMNIPRESENT tagline, "Welcome to immortality," used in lots of the discarded poster ideas.
[img]http://www.prometheus-movie.com/media/prometheus_unused_poster_11.jpg[/img]
Personally, I would have liked to see something (disjointed (abstracted)) like this, from the batch of discarded ideas, make it onto a special edition or similar cover, something retro, something non-mainstream, questioning:
[img]http://www.prometheus-movie.com/media/prometheus_unused_poster_13.jpg[/img]
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October 06, 2012
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I thought some time ago the engineers were after immortality but then when Weyland said he wanted immortality or at least longer life the engineer asked him why . Why ask that if you you're self are after immortality ?
Maybe they consider us an experiment for immortality for themselves ? And therefore as someone else noted they are not "evil " in destroying us as we simply are an experiment to them that failed and now needs replacing.
Maybe using the poster would have given away too much or they simply changed their minds .
But thanks for posting .
I am beginning to see that ambiguity and absolutes don't mix .
I guess that is what the secret of alien's success is .
October 06, 2012
i dont have the same opinion at all, never thought the space jockeys were after immortality.
but anywho, true immortality is usually a torturous prison. we should embrace our mortality and live our lives to the fullest knowing it could end at any time, knowing we will live forever and especially being indestructible brings on so many horrid outcomes. (i have plenty of those outcomes i could go on and on about)
in many stories, long lived mythical creatures wish to be mortal and die because they are tired of the world and losing loved ones, and so many other reasons they wish to finally end their existence.
i see the jockeys being after technology and power, not immortality.
if they were after that, why bother drinking black goo that makes you dissolve on a molecular level... especially by choice.
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October 06, 2012
in my eyes, the Engineers STOLE from the Jockeys, because they're just thieving magpies who'll rob 'anything shiny' from any washing line.
There'll be SUBTERFUGE ENGINEERS to who's role is to recon the latest technologies for their own Empire, I'll bet.
Maybe this 'Space Jesus' character is gonna turn out to have been one of those SIEs or Specialist Infiltration Engineers who 'got a little too close to his subject' i.e. the Rome-conquered peoples of Jerusalem, and wasn't able to make a GET ME OUT OF THIS SHIT interdimensional call before his captors were thrashing the flesh from his bones, crowning him with thorns and making him carry a half-tonne crucifix up a slaughter mountain.
But I'd like to try and keep this thread on topic, "Why do we think the WELCOME TO IMMORTALITY concept was scrapped at such a late stage?" when it would have been inspired by or maybe even FUNDAMENTAL to the ethos of the Original Cut the Ridley submitted to Uncle Foxy.
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October 07, 2012
Anybody?
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October 07, 2012
No. Ridley explains in his commentary that the "Engineers" at the beginning are 500 million years ahead of us. A race that can survive half a billion years doesn't need thievery to survive.
The most terrifying fact about the universe is not that it is hostile but that it is indifferent
October 07, 2012
thanks for that news, ZZ
:)
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October 07, 2012
@ zzplural unless that is how they survive 500 million years. And I personally believe they inherited the fire similar to how the Atlanteans may have acquired their advanced science. Possibly being given it by the God and Titan classes in the Greek myths. The king of Atlantis is the brother of Zeus, but related to both groups... Surviving 500 million years with a technology they inherited from their masters. Attempting to overthrow, but not stealing from those who created them in their case.
guess ridley changed the numbers but hes probably gonna be a little off until things are worked out and set in stone in Paradise aka double-meaning for Atlantis ;)
Posting this once more to suggest there may be more to these words and Ridley has been telling the truth to us about many things this entire time with his double meanings like the alien DNA:
“It’s about the beginning of life and the eternal ‘what if’.’ Has this ball we’ve been sitting on right now been around for three billion years or one billion? And if we haven’t been pre-visited (by alien civilisations), then what was this planet doing for all that time before life came along? It’s only our arrogance that says, ‘No, it’s impossible, we’re the first ones.’ Are we the first hominids? I really, really, really doubt it. In recent memory or legend we keep talking about wonderful, weird things such as Atlantis – what is that? Where does that come from? Is that real, was it real, is it a memory, did it exist? And if that did exist, did it exist three quarters of a billion years ago? There’d be nothing left now. How was that created and who was it?”
Note the times Ridley has been indicating-- less than a billion years since they arrived here. Its getting clearer and clearer that they did not create all life on Earth.
The flora present in the opening scenes and more apparent in the alternate opening are probably not mistakes.
They didnt originally seed life, they only hybridized themselves with the existing life and sped up evolution after the Cambrian events.
October 08, 2012
there's LOTS of talk, in the paleantology world, that the Human Geneline leapt away from the monkey geneline some time around the 250,000 years mark.
It leapt to such an extent that the number of changes recorded in our DNA would have KILLED US were we not 'engineered'.
It's all due to the mitochondrial crime trail ... the mother passes on History, the father Revolution.
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