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I am not sure because there appeared to be no exit in the "Head Room". I am sure that these are "dark angels" and not the same as the blokes seeding life at the beggining. Seen the movie four times at Cinema and twice at home. Got the OST, got the 3D Blu-Ray, got the "Art of the Film", four T-Shirts, computer screen savers are all throw back posters. My fantsy football team is even called "Know you Xenomorph". My son and I watched it and always the deleted scences too. Took my son, step son and Dad to the movies. Love the movie.

Regular Parrot : )

im pretty sure that the hologram engineers ended up in that gigantic pile of beings also i have seen prometheus twice in the theater and 7 or 8 times at home. i still dont have blu ray player though and feel dissapointment every time i look on the shelf and see all those behind the scenes, deleted scenes, and interviews just waiting for me:(

3 or 4 Fleeing Engineers make it in before the Decapitee falls and earns his name. Are these the same guys we later see in the hologram calmly preparing for cryo? 3 of whom will be horribly killed during their slumber? More or less the same guys we saw in the hologram... Based on information given, they all died except for one. As for the amount of times I've seen Prometheus... you really want to know how many times? Above 50

More like 70

12 times at the cinema. 3 times at home.

Once at the cinema. 20 times at home - and counting.

I think there's even more bodies to be found. I've only seen it twice, once in the theatre and once at home. No time! Got a Bluray player for my birthday, just for this film, haven't even taken it out of the box! So I watched the DVD, never noticed before the loss of resolution and terrible contrast. Prometheus, what have you done to me?

@Major Noob I am amazed that you seemed to have grasped the movie details in two viewings. Then proceeed to write some thoughtful posts. I can't think of too much on the additioanl episodes except I want to see the storyline devoelop in a quality manner...no cheap thrills for me. Also I want them done now to insure that they will be made and sidetrack by loss of interest, studio interference or a economic turndown. As far as the number of views that is a litttle bit subjective. Probably 56 six complete veiwing sessions. I leave the dvd in the computer and can watch it anytime even for 10 minutes, The next session just sort of picks up where I stopped. At some point you know the movie quite well so starting iot at any point can be worthwhile. This site is partly to blame doe this viewing habit. Just about every movie scene has recieved a comment or two. During the viewing sessions I am thinking of several posts that point out the details or themes of any scene. It makes for an interesting viewing even if it just for a short time. Enjoy youe Blu-Ray PLayer..I am going to listen to some Kinks music on my 8-track. .

If the other silos each have a juggernaught, then there would be at least 20-24 Engineers, that is 4 per ship. That could explain the large 'pile'. The silos could have gone on further than the eye can see, so there could be even more. Whether they are all dead, or some remain in stasis, or made it off LV-223 we don't know. 4 times at the cinema & at least once per week since the Blu-ray release!

@RegularParrot When Janek says "last time they radioed in was just outside where you found your head", referring to Millburn and Fifield, was he referring to the conversation they had while standing near the pile of dead Engineers? This would imply 2 entrances to the Head Room.

Indy- a great deal of my understanding what I saw came compliments of all of you, and the various articles I've read. Honestly I knew the movie inside and out before I even saw it, which I wish I hadn't done, although the experience of having it be totally awesome in the theatre when I had been led to expect so little was fantastic!

Everytime I watch that scene where all those dead Engineers are piled up I get this feeling there were all killed and dragged there and piled up..... a xenomorph and a Deacon would cacoon the remains, at least the past 4 Alien movies that's what happened to most of the bodies in the movie.... I think the Engineers were killed or assinated and I hope that is explained in the sequel.... Saw the movie in the theaters 3 times, got my blu-ray a day before the disc set was available, and I was amazed w/the quality of the picture/movie... watch over 40 times, special features about 4 times, and watched the movie w/Ridley commentary 2 times

Well the Dead Engineer was 3rd in the group before he fell so the others where not running away from him. There appears to be like 6 all together. The bodies piled up against that one door that had inscriptions on seemed to be at least 10 but as much as 15 i would say we are looking at 12-13 bodies, add to that the decapitated one and add to that what appears to be another few on way to the pile. This means there are a large number of dead Engineers we know for sure that their appears to be about 15+ dead at the very least. Seen Movie... 2 Times on Big Screen... once 3D once 2D 2 Times via Web Download/Itunes via Phone and HDMI 3-4 times in full on Blu-Ray inc twice in 3D. Total about 7 times total all the way though. But seen and skipped through many scenes and extras over and over while using as research for topic discussions on this forum.

I dont believe they were the same Engineers, In the ship hologram, they look relaxed preparing the ship. They could've been preparing it for a kamikaze course for Earth. Also there is no time frame on the hologram recordings, but i think the hologram in the ship is when things were under control. I've seen Prometheus 2 times at the cinema and 4 and counting on blu-ray on my PS3, im always on this site through my PS3 too. =P

Man, I'm not going to believe one [CENSORED] Deacon, even an adult Deacon, can take out several Engineers. I will never believe this. They've been mastering the art of engineering for eons and eons of time, there should be no surprises regarding this pure specimen. Something else happened to them.

think they would a nice weapon strapped to there side for times of goo going very wrong

Well Lindeloffs Draft gives clues and if Prometheus is just a changed version of that which it appears it is. Then that Draft says that the Engineers got themselves infected by the Substance Bio Weapon and it mutated some of them and those not mutated was running away to try and commit suicide so they can prevent the full effects of the infection.

The Deacon may be a new species since it results from the goo>human>human>trilobyte>engineer lineage. Perhaps whatever killed the engineers (stacked and in cryo) isn't yet known to us or to our heros in the sequel.

Regards to the Control Room Engineers yes they was calm, no signs of panic. The Earlier Hologram scene must have occurred after. The Lindeloff Draft states that the Control Room Engineers was preparing the ship then a outbreak occurred and that one of them Managed to get to a Cryopod to escape the Terror, he was the Last Engineer.

@SubsumeYou, I agree completely. I lean towards an accidental impregnation, probably involving the black goo. It seems many Engineers were affected, as the dead ones in the pile seemed to be "exploded from within". I have heard a few guys mention the cocooning process (regarding the pile of Dead Engineers) from the original Alien (in a deleted scene) and in Aliens. This is extra cool, i always loved this idea; but they all have masks on and don't appear to have been face-hugged. Somehow they were all impregnated though... Anyway, I agree that one little Deacon or whatever, taking out these Massive, powerful, intelligent Super-Beings is crazy! It must have been either an accidental outbreak/infection or Sabotage from some third party. (I have heard other 'factions' being thrown around a lot) I should mention the scream again though, The Deacon scream heard before the first hologram is played. This suggests they were running from a creature or creatures. This creature could have suddenly burst forth from a fellow Engineers torso, and Holy Shit! - Let's Book!! I would! Little did they seem to know, THEY WERE ALL INFECTED! All but one, anyway. Possibly this survivor is The Saboteur? Is there a Saboteur at all? Did he just get lucky and avoid infection somehow? His 3 buddies in cryo weren't so lucky.

I'llnevermakeitiamgoingtoexplodeanddieinsideineedParadisenowdon'tdothistomeRidley.

It was aliens of some sort and the infected engineers that were chasing the normal engineers, it was probably another creature that got in the goo, like a fly or a spider or something bigger. I agree that one engineer sabotaged the experiment... because he likes us. =)

Or maybe because he didn't like us. Is it a coincidence that the one Engineer left is hell bent on destroying us!? If there was a Saboteur, i'd look to the one guy who was 'miraculously' unharmed. I don't know. It still seems like an accident to me.

@fleshvessel Your good point. THere could be two entrances. I didn't think of the attackers moving the bodies together but that makes perfect sense.

The engineers on board the juggernaut were different than the ones who died inside the pyramid. The juggernaut was down a tunnel app. 1 km, or "1 clic" away from the pile of the bodies, in another direction. When David went there by himself, for example, to recover and fix the "pup" sensor that was malfunctioning, he broke off from the others and didn't enter the ampule/ head room to reach that tunnel. I think this is conclusive enough evidence so we can say we know that the engineers on board the juggeraut were different. As to whether the surviving engineer there was a saboteur or not, I've given a lot of thought to this and I think it's quite likely but what I see is that there was a large meeting of some kind happening inside the pyramid, being attended say by the flight crews of other juggernauts or other ships that may have been visiting and mobilizing for war here. The one engineer who survived may have been left in his cryo-pod for a reason, perhaps because he had a xeno inside him already, and the other pods malfunctioned (stopping the cryo-effect long enough for the xeno-births to take place). The surviving engineer could also have survived the presence of xeno's on-board his ship, assuming they wouldn't know he was in there. They couldn't smell him as meat, for example, or regard him as a threat in any way, even if they would stop long enough by his pod to look at him.

And also, I would point out that based on the xeno-births on the juggernaut, the creatures would have been stuck there unless someone opened the doors and let them out. They probably died after a while, without a food source, but this is hard to say because it's never been said what their life-spans are or whether, for example, they can communicate telepathically with their queens, to which they would have heard a call, etc.. I would surface that the meeting inside the pyramid was interrupted by a third party, say by a race or group the engineers here were already at war with, which was able to start the chain of events that led to xenos and other monsters getting out, and the engineers dying either of those creatures or of other weapons that caused their heads to explode.

There are so many possibilities to what happened. And so many odd things that dont add up with each other that means we cant find one true answer. As far as Engineers running and the dead bodies being different from those on the Juggernaut.... they are the same race... unless what was meant is that those bodies are not of the other Engineers off that ship. The movie to me and deleted scenes more so, seemed to show the Last Engineer some how survived and he was the one who spent far longer than the other 3 messing about with his Cryo-Pod... He also did not seem angry at first and more intrigued with the crew. Maybe he sabotaged the mission who knows... But the Lindeloff Draft seems to show the Engineer being infected as with every other Engineer only he managed to Cryo Stasis and slow down the infection and he was thus in a bad mood with the Humans. In his draft the other Engineers where running away to commit suicide so as to stop the infection running its full course and change them into XENOs.

"..He also did not seem angry at first and more intrigued with the crew..." In looking back at this movie scene after knocking over Weyland he did seem curious much like a scientist wanting to discover more of the people thyat woke him up. The Last Engineer seemed more like a person who was in charge, the most knowlefgeable Engineer around so to speak. After the rage kicked in and he prepares for take-off it was curious what he didn't do. If he saw David and the crew a real threat to his world and he was in some sort of High postion in the Engineer world why didn't he destroy the Prometheus vessel or at least trigger a self destruct cycle to blow up all of the Domes and underground facilities in this area of the moon? He might have been thinking about going to Earth,,but the immediate danger was wihin a few hundred yards of his Juggernaut.

My interpretation was he was surprised to find he was woken up by Humans. And so he was intrigued and being inquisitive, especially with the emotions Shaw was showing when she was trying to ask Questions. The Engineer would have noticed at this point and after Weyland ordered Shaw to be silenced that the old frail man was in charge of this group and that the old man was only concerned with what he wanted. Once The Engineer was told what Weyland wanted and how David was created by mankind, the Engineer then realized that this race of Humans are still a threat and are selfish and ultimately want to be as gods. And now they have found the Engineers outpost with all the secrets and power held within that Mankind can not be allowed to get hold of. The Engineer decided to carry on with the Original Mission to wipe us out... or reset the experiment.

"..or reset the experiment.." I guess we can figure out that that this reset might make David/Shaw orphans in the known Universe. From all of what we see ir's high drama when the Last Engineer is seated in his control pod he is remarkably calm as the canopy is lowered. Is this because he realizes that he is just a passenger with all of the automated controls to get to Earth in place and there is nothing for him to personably to do but just enjoy the ride? Or is like the Sacrificial Engineer who also seemed somewhat serene before his sacrifice to kick start the human development that produced us? That original mission must have hard wired in to the Engineer's persona to cause him to wipe out the human crew and take off.

I still believe that we were never meant as the end result. Think about it- facehuggers need a host to impregnate to make a Xeno. Black goo even, needs a host to infect in order to achieve any results. Humans are just a stepping stone to create what the Engineers view as "The Perfect Organism" Better than using you and your Engineer comrades. (Also, this is mass production! Boom! One crashed ship full of goo- and a planet full of Xeno type deals) All they had to do was wait for us to multiply like crazy, and now they have what, almost 7 billion perfect hosts. So, IMHO it was never about resetting as much as it was about taking the next evolutionary step. And the trick is not minding that it hurts.

And the result of infecting 7 billion hosts will be a step toward "The Perfect Organism"? I still have a problem in knowing for what purpose the Engineers are going thru all of this trouble. If the perfect organism is developing on Earth and so distant from their home that tells me they may want to develop a superior being but not in their backyard. Smart move.

@Indy: I agree. What is the endgame? Is it as disappointingly simple as the Engineers dabbling "Because They Can?" To be honest- i hope that there is more to it than that. They must be able to control these creatures to a certain degree. (See the mural depicting an Engineer with a faithful 'pet' at his side) PS- i still don't know what the Green Crystal was! Was this where the Engineers first discovered Alien DNA?

(Perhaps it is a piece of meteor or something?)

WAs there any crystal anywhere in the Engineer world other than the Green Crystal? Your meteor suggestion is quite intersesting. If it was not already on the moon then the Engineers would have brought it with them from their world. That would even add more to the storyline that the Green Crystal has special meaning to the Engineers.

once in theaters, twice at home, thrice overall.