Scientists destroy Prometheus!

You would be shocked how far some people go for pets many people see them as equals is it lone that's the cat lover I think (he/ she might have something to say!). That parts about ripley showing what a hero she is - no one gets left! And yer u don't want the film to be too factual and sterile I kniw but its so easy just to enploy a few experts on a film to keep most of it in check!

@Sixxshot; It is possible for a person to love their pet as much, if not more than a person. Would you leave behind someone that you love?

The smart science fiction is always necessary, but I separated my love of hard science fiction of my love of space opera. There are many different genres like Steampunk, Cyberpunk, military, post-apocalyptic, dystopian, etc,and I can not judge them all with the same parameters. For Prometheus, my greatest dissatisfaction was with respect to most of the characters and excessive ambiguity (a sign of a lazy script) but I was not expecting a masterpiece of hard science fiction anyway.

Lol ur not getting it - ripley thinks of the cat as a person she loves it. That part was showing her compassion and strength. A trained biologist sticking his face into a 9ft space snake that clearly looks aggressive is plain bonkers. And alien got quiet goid reviews abd still has it was blade runner that got slated I thought. Abd yer shams I know that part too...

[quote]history repeats itself with people too accustomed to stupid movies that explain everything to you instead of bothering to make the audience think about what is not pointed out to them[/quote] Thats a lazy script, because the filmmakers do not care to investigate, much less to develop adult characters. If you think its smart to make a mess full of random ideas go to see Alex Jones or Giorgio Tsoukalos :p

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When people agree to live in ignorance is like religion, is not very smart indeed. In my case, I only see different styles of science fiction, but that does not mean I see Prometheus as an intelligent masterpiece. It is a fantasy film, visually elegant and epic, but with bad characters and poor story.

@Shambs; I agree completely! I love it and hate it in equal measure. A great film that frustrates the shit out of me!!! ALIEN is just great! But it's not a competition. Let's face it, Prometheus could have been better, but could also have been worse!

How were the adult characters in Alien developed? Was saying "right" over and over again great character development? Oh Ripley was developed all right, but it was James Cameron who did it. But the first film purists will never admit that. I wouldn't have a problem with the nitpicking if it the hypocrisy wasn't so bald-faced. Don't worry though, the film has already been re-assessed as better than you think. The sales on blu-ray were ridiculously good. I see this nerd shit with almost every franchise. The good, new entries are initially hated and then eventually they are accepted as being good entries later on. Day of the Dead (1985) was initially tagged as piece of shit, and now it's a classic.

Yer even I wondered at one point if lindelof had taken the b movie horror dark comedy aspect but just plain messed it up. I guess if you do take it from a fatasy perspective and gloss over things it does work but in this case its a ridley scott sci fi for me it should be totally plausible scientifically characteristicly and any other ...ly and amazing / highest standards! And yes I do love prometheus's overall original idea I not a xeno fanboi I love the engineer path just hope the ship can be steadied in part 2!

I loved the right bit it was a joke least he was set up as an idiot from the start unlike most of the crew in promethues that seemed to go from nrmal to idiot second by second. Six we are a year n a half past the release I don't see any - wow yes it is a masterpiece! Unless maybe part 2 3 drags it up but even then...why would they sack the writer if its going so well lol!

Quote; "How were the adult characters in Alien developed? Was saying "right" over and over again great character development? Oh Ripley was developed all right, but it was James Cameron who did it." They were SPACE TRUCKERS not scientists, and it was only Brett who kept on saying "Right" all the time. That was just to show that he was a YES MAN who would do what he was told. Most truckers don't have very much to say anyway. Also, there wouldn't have been any development of Ripley if it wasn't for Ridley and Dan o Bannon. That's a FACT!

So it's okay for space truckers to be one dimensional, but scientists, who are infamous for being antisocial nerds, have to be mutli-faceted round characters with layers and layers even if they're b-characters like Milburne? Jeez, you guys are making this too easy for me. Fact, Shaw, David and even Charlie are more complex than any of the archetypal characters in Alien. Ummm, Dan O'Bannon's Ripley wasn't named Ripley and wasn't even female. I think you need to read up more on this film because you definitely have that part wrong. The idea behind Alien is it was a b-movie with a-movie production values. Prometheus is a way more ambitious movie. Even Ridley Scott admits this. He calls Alien a ghost house movie for crying out loud. People just need to stop with the revisionist history. If you like "scifi," you should be thanking this movie, because it would have continued on the path it was on as a videogame action franchise aimed at tweens. Prometheus made this franchise serious again and refocused it on science fiction.

Lol funny funny one day youll think back to this and be so red faced milburn was not one dimetional he plain just didn't make sense its like night and day...in alien he mau not have said much but it totally fitted made sense and was believable. If you don't believe us go chat to the 97 percent of people that loved it out there lol... Ps did u know the reason that scene git so messed up was taking out the milburn fifield getting stoned part and them thinking the suits were 'bullet proof' resulting in a muddled end result. Even with those two things it would still only be half plausible but they took them out :O wgen you start chopping stuff up like that its gonna get muddled!

I see that there is no way to have an intelligent, rational debate with some people without them resorting to childish insults. 97 percent of people loved ALIEN. That say's it all!

Milburne's character makes sense. He's just a huge nerd. Not much more else you need to know about him. Thus him getting caught up in observing the new species like it was a puppy. It was totally in character for him. And Phifield was already smoking pot. It's in the film. He's doing the mission for money and only cares about rocks, he says it himself! If you're ok with a fucking spaceship engineer who just says "right" and nothing else, I'm hard pressed to see why that's okay and this is wrong.

quote: "I see that there is no way to have an intelligent, rational debate with some people without them resorting to childish insults. 97 percent of people loved ALIEN. That say's it all!" I never insulted you. And the later part is not an argument. The audience liked Prometheus as well, it was one of the most successful R-rated movies in years and years.

Ok, while we are on the subject of facts and what people will realistically do in any given situation, here I go: Quote; "Milburne's character makes sense. He's just a huge nerd. Not much more else you need to know about him. Thus him getting caught up in observing the new species like it was a puppy. It was totally in character for him." He's an expert in creatures isn't he? So why doesn't he pick up on the hammerpedes aggressive body language? I would assume that he has come across snakes on planet Earth before. It took an aggressive stance and hissed. Also it was an alien creature, he had no idea of what it was really capable of. I'm no expert in the body language of creatures, but I'm pretty sure that if an alien snake took a stance like it did and hissed, I defo wouldn't have put my hand out to it! For an expert in creatures, it was a pretty stupid move!

Lol stop it my sides are hurting so a biologist who runs away from s dead slien body - the biggest biological find in history then wants to hug a 9ft long skinless cobra space snake and thinks its s puppy lol this is getting funnier if you see nothing wrong with that well lol....and it was tabacco in the film...puppy lololol...