Re-analyzing the Prometheus Alien mural and what clues it offers.

I don't think it was a disappointment at all! It opened up so many doors and showed us that the Xenomorph is not limited in its design and that its adaptability is infinite. The Deacon was a great addition to the biology. It was a result of a very specific series of events. It would be nearly impossible to replicate under normal circumstances, it is one of a kind and will likely not reassemble any pre-existing Xenomorph design. I'm totally okay with that.

This is the ambiguity of the Franchise, it allows for different views and yes Chris thats a nice theory ;)

We have to look at the Face Hugers that are depictions of the two other unused Giger Alien Concepts.  And so its where do we draw the line and what to we allow or discount as far as clues.... do we take those Face Huggers as a Easter Egg?

I think we need to look at the Engineers who are they, and before we try and connect them to Prometheus 2 and Paradise Lost and Greek Mythos and all the God stuff.

Lets throw that all out of the Window, and we have to ask what was they doing?  The Sacrificial Scene, why? Ridley said the Engineers came back over and over and Evolved Mankind Genetically as well as Technologically.

They had been referred to as Genetic Gardners as well, and even pondered about what else have these Engineers created and is Earth the only world where they have seeded life, is it the only place to have Humanoid Life?  Ridley said these things and also that the Sacrificial Scene does not have to be Earth.

Bring in Fire and Stone, and we see other Organisms who have Cave paintings pointing to LV-223 other Organisms who have 4 Arms. So the Engineers create and manipulate DNA to experiment and create a variety of Life.

Take Spaights draft.... there was 8 different kinds of Xeno Related Eggs/Spores etc and Ridley said he always wanted to have the Derelict having a different type of Egg in each Cargo Hold... saying there was 7? or 8 different holds.

So then lets look at the Sacrificial Scene and Tear Drop Ship, compared to Croissant and then the lack of Bio-Mechanical Suits and Pressure Suits.... did they create this Technology or like the BORG do they try to assimilate and integrate any Bio-Genetics and other  Technology to Advance themselves.

Why create so many different Races, why create so many different Eggs etc... 

Maybe because the Engineers are always in the pursuit of Evolving and trying to create Perfection and to better advance their Technology and Genetics...

So maybe they experiments on various forms of the Xeno, how they came across it and its Ancestor and what link the Fresco has, who knows.

I think maybe a group of Engineers became perverted with their view of Perfection and they came across something that created a Xeno Ancestor and they then further experimented on this until they  reached the Mural Deacon..

Then they saw it as PERFECT and maybe they then decided to use its DNA instead of Engineers to create and seed life... seeing the Deacon DNA as being more Perfect.

This is why the Deacon is in Sacrificial Pose on the Mural, and why it was in front of the Altar... my theory is based on the alternative Shot in the Trailers where the Sacrificial Cup was in place of the Green Orb.

This is just one theory, and it does run deeper if i try and connect the Fresco too.

It would be interesting to see the Mural and Fresco covered or a new one that is covered in more detail that can allow us to then understand Prometheus.

The Source (again not to be taken as Fact or go off Topic) they said that the whole Eggs, Space Jockey answers are in Prometheus many clues stare us in the Face, but they are vague and not paid enough attention on but that Prometheus has the answers, and that Prometheus 2 while concentrating on the reason for our creation and Engineers and reason for the Xeno, was the focus, it would futher hint clues to the creation of the Xeno as far as Origins but it would not show us a Spoon Fed way or give us the Space Jockey Story.... but after Prometheus 2 we would have when looking at Prometheus and the Franchise, we would have more clues to come up with the answer and that in the end it would show us more... but not the Space Jockey story.... but Prometheus already held the clues.

So yes i think the Mural, and Frescos and other clues must play a key role in it all.... is the Chest Busted Engineer Cryo-Pods, Few Thousand years ago time line and location near to LV-426 all Coincidence?

 @ "What this means is that the Deacon is, but also isn't a proto-Xenomorph. Instead, it acts as a biological foundation - a foundation which I feel David will use in order to create the iconic, biomechanics Xenomorph".

Chris. The view that the Deacon is as far as they got by the time of the outbreak on LV223 fits with my understanding of the script evolution of the upcoming film. Though I believe whilst experiments had been carried out on early points of human evolution the Deacon in the mural is not so different from the calf Deacon at birthing. Both benefit from the same DNA source which includes Engineer and Human DNA in the case of Shaws grandchild and neither shows signs of being bio mechanical.  

1) There is an evolving creature which, as John Logan has said, if you are going to tell the story of the Zenomorph its life cycle has to be included. 

2) Ridley will also answer why it is Bio Mechanoid.

Whose involved in this evolution of the Zenomorph. I think it is impossible not to conclude its David.

I happen to think that fits with the backstory to date in all but one regard.

The Headroom created a stable environment which some Engineers managed to escape into. The rest, rather like the disaster from a fire, were trapped outside having become infected by the black goo some tried to escape on a Juggernaut and complete one of the missions of the "Destroyer Engineers" to Earth but this clearly failed and three of the pilots were to late to save themselves.

What happened to the Engineers who managed to escape into the Headroom. Did they manage to capture the Deacon that was chasing them, we hear the deacon scream in the hologram recording, which they now subsequently sacrificed, the easter eggs being the sacrificial cup, mural of submersion and the humanoid deacon in a christ like pose.

They also left a code/record of their experiments within the mural showing how they believed the life cycle could work in certain circumstances and those Easter Eggs provide the answers as to how the Space Jockey setting the derelict down on LV426 came about. But as Holloway said this is a tomb and they never escaped, indeed while they subdued the Deacon and affected its sacrifice they ultimately died in an act of sacrifice themselves leaving clues and codes for what they had achieved but always knowing that the creation engineers would understand the warning signs of the pyramid from without.  

The problem with this outcome is the Eggs on the Derelict represent the final solution which we have yet to see developed. My view is the S J is in the future despite Dallas's remarks. More recently I have been reminded the Beacon predates the Prometheus mission. However subsequently a poster had suggested these contributions from the PW files should not be taken as gospel and according to Fox are bit of fun.

A juggernaut landed on Paradise an Engineer may have survived, certainly one of BD sources talked about "The Engineer" in an earlier script, possibly once the life cycle is perfected in an act of redemption "The Engineer" removes the remaining eggs created through David's experiments and in an act of sacrifice, completing the cycle begun in Prometheus, deliberately takes a face hugging and blasts off with the Juggernaut as a coda rather like the Deacon in Prometheus.     

I have no friggin idea what the mural is really saying....I do see somewhat the steps of the alien inpregnation process, and the crucifixion pose of a decon but i can only say that the pattern on the wall resembles necronomicon art by Giger. But as far as a sure "take" on the meaning of the design,..mannn...im still in wonder mode..I look forward to Alien covenant explaining it.

@ bladerunnergunner , thx ! I truly only can agree with you for it all is a little vague here . There is a picture , posted by brego . It shows how the facehugger ( the huge one ) is taking care of an engineer . If this was meant to be seen in the movie , this is the explanation on how David was able to see some sort of birth plan or whatever you will call it like . 

And ... is the Deacon a queen actually still in progress . @ Canova Well , no I don ´t so . And to put it simple - it turns out to be right or wrong , so whatever . Saying " The Trilobite isn ´t a protofacehugger , it is the facehugger of a queen , this is troubling (or probably nothing but bullshit )  In alien 3 , Ripley is giving birth to a queen . She even says " It is a queen " ( a scene where she talks to the doctor played by Charles Dance ) . What you are trying to say is : The Trilobyte is the facehugger of a proto-queen . Did I get this right ? 

Because otherwise the whole alien saga had a lot of queens , let ´s say , but where did you ever saw one of these gigantic sea stars ? 

Maybe the most interesting detail about the mural in my opinion : The fact that this special alien ( Deacon )

is already known to the engineers . I ´d like to ask Bishop about we has to say on that , but well , unfortunately he ain ´t around .:)  Oh Bishop , I miss your explanations ,  there was a sound of poetic diction in it  .

Then they saw it as PERFECT and maybe they then decided to use its DNA instead of Engineers to create and seed life... seeing the Deacon DNA as being more Perfect. @ Big Dave  I think they saw it was " perfect ", then there was some sort of caps lock situation which led to , well - everybody run . Just laughing .

Your theory has one weakness for sure . If you were an intelligent lifeform - would you really consider it as your very last goal to replace your species by a species which seems to have greater potential , for what reason ? Simply to show you made it before you left the house without , probably , no wittness at all ? Think of it  :)

Depends if you had evolved beyond ego.

My theory has a few flaws.... but the basis is that a rogue faction of Engineers started to view the Deacon as the Perfect creation as opposed to what their creators had maybe intended.

The Engineers doing those experiments are refereed to by Ridley as Fallen and Rebellious.  I had that theory for many years.

But when i got the so called source leak who i will be getting some information hopefully from latter.... again i cant say if any of it is TRUE.

They claim the movie had the answers, in front of us but they are not in a Spoon Fed Way.

They also say the movie was to be based off Rebellion and it does loosely follow Paradise Lost but also Matrix

They said the Xenomorph (Origins) is like the Punishment of the Serpent in Paradise Lost, and as in Satan giving birth to Sin, as his punishment and also that some of the other Fallen Angels had a Punishment where God Mutated them to Serpents... and these Punished Fallen Angels instead of seeing it as Punishment saw it as Freedom from Bondage... and so they said this loosely plays the key role but also ties in with the Greek Prometheus Mythos. 

So we will have to wait and see... but if the Deacon and Fresco Mural where Punishment, the Engineers may have then indeed saw such Punishment as actually a Evolution...

I think the whole Agenda of Satan in Paradise Lost was to corrupt Mankind so that Mankind would be punished by God also...

Maybe this is where the Engineers using the Urns on Earth came in?  Who knows.

But it seemed the next movie was going to touch upon these things... but then with the Re-write things are being added to be a bit more Fan Service but hopefully it will retain some of the elements they seemed to be going for.

We still dont know the full Agenda, or how it has changed...   do we take the Bible Creation Myth, the Prometheus Greek one... or the movies one

They all share a theme.... was the Sacrificial Scene a Creation of Mankind without consent? was the Engineers creation of Man, the same as Mans creation of David 8?

Does how the Engineers view David 8 and his creation, worry them or a abomination or us playing God when we should not have...

And so did they do the same thing against their Gods/Creators in the creation of Mankind?

We just dont yet know what Role Creation of Man played, is it similar to the Bible? Similar to Greek Mythos or the Sumerian?

The source claimed they are all to be taken as a source material but they are not going for a literal explanation as one of those but to tie those into something more related to Matrix/Bladerunner theme of what i assume is Creation and Rebelion

Time will tell, it does seem that Prometheus 2 was going this route, but its now what route is Covenant going... i think its tone down those elements like how Lindeloffs toned down the Xeno..

Spaights to Lindeloffs ===> Tone Down Xeno, Evolve God/Creators

So maybe Green/Paglen to Logan ===> Tone down the God/Creators and explore/explain the Xeno.

But i will be speaking to the Person who has spoken to the Source latter, they heard off them Sunday but said nothing New Really they are willing to Spill, but have just covered what they had before...

I will pass it on latter what i am told... hope there is some news... and again i cant be 100% sure of any truth to any of it.

I agree with this analysis.