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Will Alien: Covenant introduce Xenomorph Egg Morphing?

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A deleted scene from Alien depicted Ripley discovering Dallas cocooned along the inner walls of the Nostomo, with a massive egg encasing his body - as if digesting him from the inside out. He uttered the creepy words "Kill me" before Ripley torched him. The cocooning concept was carried forth in James Cameron's sequel but the egg-morphing never made its debut on-screen.

As fellow member Aorta has addressed in previous topics, the concept of something slowly digesting you from within, slowly transforming you into something else grotesque is far more terrifying than being trapped on a ship with an Alien.

We saw an essence of this transformative bio-former material in the form of the "Black Goo" in Prometheus. Whose to say the Engineers didn't fashion their bio-former after the natural morphing abilities of the Xenomorph? Or what if the egg-morphing is an adopted trait of the Xenomorph's creation from the Engineer bio-former?

There's still so many theories about how and why this trait could exist and I'm hoping we get a glimpse of it in Alien: Covenant, do you?

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YES. Or something similarly awful. And I think there's a good chance we will. Ridley's already displayed a taste for moving beyond MORB norms as we know them, and I think taking back the canon as well (within reason, everybody. It wouldn't be a bad thing, really.).

I'm hoping something even more strange and terrible is on the menu for A:C!

Edit:  I do believe that the Liquid is at the very least a variant of something naturally produced by the MORB.

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o wow

 

 

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Brett was dead by the time he was egg-morphed, but poor Dallas was still alive, looking over at Brett with the realisation that he was about to be transformed. Imagine the pain and horror of feeling that process! What could be worse than that?

I really want to see some egg-morphing, and I think the process could connect to the way the Juggernauts are formed too!

Different species being morphed would produce slight variations in the size of the eggs- for example, Engineers would make for bigger eggs. I think that also ties into the variety of urn sizes found in the Ampule Room.

 

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I can see where they get their ideas from ...

Very similar (although without Alien goo) happens on Earth ... the life-cycle of butterflies ... eggs hatch ... the caterpillar turns into a chrysalis within a few days ... the caterpillar then digests itself, starts to break down inside (enzymes turn the caterpillar into a 'soup' like substance) ... some of the 'imaginal discs' are left behind, which survive the digestive process ... there’s a pair for the antennae, a pair for the eyes, one for each leg and wing, and so on ...

Sorry, my nature head was on at this point ... I like to breed moths & butterflies, now and again and photograph the process ... it's fantastic ...

Right back on track ...

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So the eggs the face huggers are born in, are literally the hosts? and thats why they appear leathery?  

 

 

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@Blade ... that would be a good assumption ... the chemistry involved would seem very complex ...

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I wonder if there's still some shred of the host's consciousness left in the facehugger, left to sit for potentially thousands of years. :D

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Unfortunately not. because todays audience just don't have the stomach to deal with it.

The egg morphing scene in ALIEN was very disturbing (one of my favourite scenes of the whole film!) and introduced us to something far more sinister and ALIEN than we could even begin to comprehend in our reality.

The experimental times of the 70s and 80s punk generation is gone.

The poster was good though!

 

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The poster was good though!

 

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I don't think it's a matter of audiences being able to stomach it.  Things like Saw and Hostel are popular.

 

The problem is trying to sell it to an audience expecting eggs to come from queens.

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@S.M.-

Agreed.

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@S.M; I think you're correct actually. Ignore my last two comments.

But there's still the fact that it is described as an adventure/thriller, not a horror. So no i don't think we will see a scene like the egg morph scene.

The poster was good though!

 

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the scripts point to
Eggmorphing as how the
Eggs got on the Derelict

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I am not sure what you mean by Scripts?

Alien was intended to follow the route of being based off Star Beast where Egg Morph was the final part of the Life Cycle, when the draft became Alien they was at that time still hopping to go for the similar route and that the Derelict and Egg Silo where two different locations.  But the idea had evolved from being a race who stumbled on the Eggs, to then being a race who had some connection with them.

But i think it see the point as far as Alien in that the concept of Egg =>Face Hugger => Chest Buster =>Adult => Egg Morph => Egg

Could had pointed to the Eggs being on the Derelict by the same means, how exactly was not really explored.. i.e where Egg Morphs carried to the Cargo Hold once they became Eggs.

Then Aliens came along and gave the Queen and a idea that the Queen may have laid those Eggs, which i think its wrong.. a Queen may have laid them at some other place and then we saw them transported to the Derelict.

Hopefully they will answer the reason for the Eggs on the Derelict but i dont think they have to as long as we know which other ways to get the Eggs... be that by something created that lays them.. or what other means they try to show.

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There was what looks like a Egg Morph in Alien 5 by Blomkamp.. but it was only early stages and so it may not even be a Egg Morph but it looks like they was going that route.

will we see Egg Morph in Alien Covenant?  Im not sure, i think Ridley will try to re-introduce that concept and maybe advance it a bit but i dont think he would rule out the Queen idea.

I had always been led to the idea that logically fits is that a Egg Morph makes a Queen aka Royal Face Huger, it fits more perfect with if the Xenomorph was the perfect life form as far as procreation.

Eggs that are laid by a Queen, are effected by pheromones, or temperature or other atmospheric changes that the presence of would produce different Casts of Xenomorph.

When a Queen, Hive and related pheromones and/or atmospheric changes as far as a hive goes... is not present then the Eggs Produce a Embryo that produce a Drone that then is tasked with capture of Hosts to use their Genetic Material to make a Queen, and maybe also Guards for the Queen and also Hosts for these Face Huggers.

Once a Queen is produced and a hive is started, (construction) these release changes that effect the Eggs to then produce different Casts, i.e Warriors.

Maybe a Queen can influence on Egg to produce a Drone or other Xenos can affect certain eggs to produce a drone.

This is how i saw the Xeno Life Cycle....

 

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I think Ridley will show us HOW A XENO can be made, but maybe not How the Original was made and by that i mean the first of its kind. 

Or they could show how this happened as a Flash Back, and then have David Re-create similar events to produce hopefully a slightly different kind.

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This topic is asking a very good question!

The ALIEN theatrical cut doesn't show the Egg Morph scene. Why?

Ridley re-introduced it in his Directors Cut probably because he thought it was a very fitting scene. He wouldn't have re-introduced it if he didn't think it should be a part of the film.

When I first saw that scene I can remember being horrified and repulsed by it. But I also thought that it added much more depth to this very ALIEN story. That scene is genius.

But I'm confused! The IMDB site describes it as an adventure, sci-fi, thriller, were-as the Wiki describes it as a sci-fi horror. So which is it?

Ridley has stated that he's planning to "out-do" the chestburster scene from ALIEN, but how can he possibly achieve that? Let's not forget that he said similar things about Prometheus. The Shaw, caesarean scene was meant to "out-do" the ALIEN chestburster scene. Did it achieve it?

It was an excellent scene! (I just didn't like the fact that it looked like a terrestrial creature, a squid. But that's beside the point) 

The fact that James Cameron (sort of) re-invented the life cycle of the Alien, introducing an egg laying machine (the queen,) sort of cancelled out the egg-morphing answer and I think that FOX will continue to run with the queen thing whether we like it or not.

Of course there's always a way to have the egg morph and Queen concepts co-exist. But will they bother to address it?

The first question is:

Is IMDB correct in its description of A:C, (Adventure, sci-fi, thriller?) or,

Is the WIKI correct, (Sci-fi horror?)

If the description from IMDB is correct then I can't see them having a scene like the egg morph scene.

That scene is in the horror category for sure.

   

The poster was good though!

 

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Sorry struggling with images

This links to

images of screenshots

Of the giler hill alien script

http.//imgur.com/qBB7QeX.png

http://imgur.com/DdjSvDD.png

http://imgur.com/0PAVAJ7.png

You can see Dallas indicating
That brett is a spore very
Close to the one in the 
Temple. 

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There fore the logical
conclusion is that
the spores in the
Temple were people once.

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S.M is correct .

The greater fanbase
probably is expecting
a queen. I like the term
sell. Never thought about
it like that before.

From the 1978 draft

i.imgur.com/WYIvmdD.png 

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