The real leakleaks is here.(Spoiler alert)

It all depends on what commands Walter isrobotically following. A David switch could be the best thing for the crew if he doesn't bring facehuggers on the covenant, and isn't trying to jerry rig a xeno.

Think on paper it could make for a decent movie if there is more flesh to it...... but i think its also disappointing.... as far as not really living to any potential but to just skip past Prometheus and move onto a Alien Movie...

We also have to consider the supposed ending... which (unless a 3rd movie covers these).

*Wont answer the Questions from Prometheus relating to the Engineers and purpose... other than... oh yeah there was those guys who created this weapon... please see Prometheus for answers. (When the idea for doing a sequel was to cover these).

*The Covenant ship departs with few survivors and many more Cryo-Sleep Colonists.... but then where is it going, as surely the Covenant + Remaining Colonists depart from some other place... maybe Aliens are on board ... how would this however answer the Questions in Alien.. never mind lead to it... unless David/Walter takes the Covenant to LV-223... (which then raise questions unless the Covenant crew dont know until they arrive where they are going).

The Leaks if true.. is just a weak sign that Ridley backed himself into a Corner with the Prometheus Ancient Alien Plot, and now is looking at well the cheap way out....  and then maybe bring in the LV-223 Engineers (where ever any of that Bio-Mechanical Juggernaught War-Machine Race remain).  or skip them and introduce another Race who are their creators or where they stole the Technology from...

This would then introduce another Plot Hole.. as if this other Race are found and are hostile too, they have to do a plot where by the time they finish the Prequels.. these beings are also out of the equation...

I will attempt to analyze the 4chan leak and give a reason for why some may be correct and why some are flawed....

A thing we need to look at most too is my previous post and how would a sequel go?  Then we can find some errors in that. I give a example..

*If Daniels finds out David/Walter is involved in the creation or tricking them to face the horrors found on Paradise as far as Alien threats....  There would be no way she would want to go and find Answers like Shaw did... if they kill Shaw off, it makes no sense to use Daniels to be the one asking those questions..

And also knowing about those Horrors, and she would question why Paradise had Temples and so would question who was on this World Prior.... surely she would not want to go to another place Associated with them or their history or those Horrors.

*So the only logically way if Leak is correct... is they think that Walter is Walter not David... so they have every reason to trust this Android... and go back into Cryo-sleep (remembering she would be thinking about the other 180+ Colonists .. yes not Embryos and not thousands but another 180-185+ Confirmed Colonists). 

So she would want to escape that Horror... with a Android she trusts... so there has to be shown every reason she can trust him... surely if she realized David is rogue.. she would have doubt with Walter Too....

So somehow they are in Cryo-sleep and the Ship has Colonist.. or lets say Leak is correct... Frozen Embryos... and somehow Xeno ones have got on board...

*If these Xeno related Embryos are connected, they need a Fully Grown Host to Gestate inside...

So then we ask where does the ship go.....

LV-223?  another Engineer World?  only if the David/Walter tells Daniels etc they are off to some other place.. or back to Earth or off to their original destination......  But then while they are in Cryo-Sleep he takes them to a Engineer World or LV-223

Because unless we have flash backs... and cover the pre-AC history then it makes it more difficult for a Colony ship to be off some other place... then see Aliens get into Hosts and Run Amok on the ship..

Would this not have been done on smaller scale in AC...

Having a few more Xenos run around again on that ship... or even the ship arrives at a new world, and all is good.. back to business for Daniels to make this place a New Home..

Then Booooom! Xenos on lose again and chasing them around another Planet?

Makes not sense.... and wont link to Alien much... never mind answer anything Prometheus was trying to do.

"I dont think the proto alien gets to the covenant ship.its impossible.theres loads of embryos there.the shower scene will not be in the covenant ship but on the ship that descends to paradise."

The leak claims Embryos and Thousands... but officially its been confirmed the Ship had 200 Colonist... prior to AC... this means 185 or abouts or bit more survived.... most in Cryo-sleep

Plus the Lander is too small to host that Scene.... and the other scenes... never mind  Fact one happens in the Cargo Bay of the ship.... by that Main Ship..

SPOILER........ Potentially...

Daniels is in that Cargo Hold, in her Space Suit and it seems she is being flung across the Cargo Hold... while the Doors or some other Hull Breach has occurred..

Its likely they are going the Alien and Aliens route... to basically open a Air Lock or Cargo Door and get rid of the Alien on the Covenant out and into Space.

The Trailer hints to this... which is against the leaks version of events.

"if what I read was true I don't see Shaw being killed of but more like she discovered David's experiments and fled and the next film will follow her quest to find the engineers"

We then have to ask.. how does Shaw depart... surely she cant fly a ship on her own.... and if David helps her.. to get away.. why would he want to mean Harm to the Covenant Crew.

If Shaw on her own found Engineers or related... how can she communicate with them.... for this kind of Plot to work she would have to meet some very Benevolent Engineers.

BigDave,

I have my doubts this is the real leak but I will say this. Real leak or not, I feel we are going to learn more about Xenos, neos, androids, and black goo in this film than we will about engineers. Though I still think we'll at least learn some. Either way I'm convinced Fox has already established the business plan for AC and accompanying content (like the VR) to ensure there's enough money for a next movie. That being said, I believe we will definitely have most if not full disclosure on the engineers by the end of the third film. I don't think Ridley has any intention of leaving their story behind.

Also, I have a feeling Daniels will not be chasing engineers down by the end of this film like Shaw was about to at the end of Prometheus (and she may not even be returning for the third film at all for all we know)

This here is a piece of wild speculation but I feel the third film is going to largely be focused on Weyland-Yutani and their struggle to acquire all alien tech while perhaps a new crew (in the company's service) will be chasing down and perhaps getting wiped out by engineers. We may or may not get an Alien tie in with a third film depending on how confident Fox feels about doing a fourth. I think a fourth film will largely depend on the success of AC and the VR game.

Just guessing though.

As far as David goes...

The Prologue Seen has to be a David 1 to 3 model....

The Weyland Viral site shows Davids are first booted up with no Hair at all.....   David 8 model has Blonde Hair... but this could be a Promotional Marketing for the Models...

So you can customize Hair and Eye Color when you order your own David.... hell you can call them what ever you want too.

it appears David 8 was dying his Hair Blonde.... why would he need to do that, if his Hair is Synthetically added to order...

its a oversight.... maybe... because if David 8 was Blonde in the promotional Weyland Marketing to get people to purchase this Model......    if this is the same David 8 that is used on Prometheus he would not need to dye his hair..

Unless it grows... and its natural color is darker?

The reason for the Cloak is also partly to cover up the hair..

You can imagine the hard work work to shoot a movie with TWO Fassbender Roles that have different Hair... Its more simple to have the same Hair..

So having David hooded then being welcomed on the Covenant... or drop ship.... then using a Colonists Hair Dye to Copy Walter.... would make for a Better Plot Device...

Its how i would have done it....

Would make David Creepy... like he could look up to Walter.. and then we get a Single White Female.... kind of Plot going on... this would suit Davids creepy nature... and cover up any Shooting Hassle for Fassbender Blonde Wig etc... It would fit in very well with Davids Character... as he apparently liked and looked up to and wanted to replicate Lawrence of Arabia

Walter does not trust David... so David has find a way to bring him on board and well... sucking up and kissing Walter Ass and  having a infatuation with Walter could do that... its a page right out of Single White Female it works for the Plot and David's Creepy Nature.... and then ultimately the Perfect Foil for the Switch-a-roo...

@ QueenElizabethShaw

The facehugger experience did cause short term amnesia in Kane.

Indeed....

I do however think they will be trying to keep Daniels as the new Ripley...... so its hard to think how does this go forwards, and yet provide links and Answers....

David is key to the movie... i think it makes no Sense for Walter to carry on... it should be About David.. at least as far as his Soul (say if he transfers his Memories to Walter) .

I had a Source.. who mentioned a lot of stuff before anything to do with Alien Covenant...  they passed information on to someone i know in Febuary 2015.... i relayed it here in March 2015... so many things mentioned that added up.... at a time when Ridley said no news on a sequel.. it was all about Alien 5 and Ridley said they are planning to eventually do a sequel that would be further away from Alien and no more Beasts.. its cooked....  The Source claimed this was not the case...

Anyway i dont know if they was correct... AVPGalaxy seemed to bash it all as BS... in that exact term.....   The information has never had a take down request and so maybe its not true.. but keeps matching a lot of what is shown..

Anyway... This Source claims David will be going through... Rebellion, Retribution and then Redemption... as far as  Arc.

Walter is a straight up Company Android.... serves the Ship.......   NOW..... we have to still ask... How come the Ship ends up at the place David was off too?

Oh its on the way to LV-223 or near and detects Shaws SOS.. so decided to follow where she has gone.... that makes no sense...  unless the crew are stupid...   "ok so this Shaw said this place is death, but they are going to the Homeworld of the Race who made this place Death.... lets go and follow?"

What if Walter has inside information..... he can use the concerns over David Model... to play into his hands... use David as a distraction so he (Walter) can carry out the company Agenda...

David is on Paradise... we dont find out much about the past... we arrive at the aftermath.... were David all alone has experimented on the Xeno related DNA for what ever reasons he came across it... i.e out of Curiosity and regardless if something is Evolving after or prior to his arrival.

It would make sense if David destroyed the Engineers if he found out their Evil intentions...  we dont have to cover this... David had no choice.... Shaw is gone... 

David is stranded and so he is now free to experiment..

After the events of AC... maybe David has a change of heart.... (Remember Fassbender says what if he has a Soul)

He discovers Walters Agenda...  we find out Walter is the Evil One...

David helps Save Daniels... he now Redeems himself...

Daniels finds out the Company Agenda... and how Walter was a Set up......  David helps Daniels because he realizes the error of his ways.. and Maybe Feels Loved or Longs for it... 

This fits with the Nature Boy Song!

They are on the Covenant.... at the end.. and either at the End...  or in the Next Movie...

David spills the beans about Paradise, LV-223 the Bio-Weapons...  Daniels then is off to Paradise to Lay Waste to that Place so the company can not obtain the Xeno.. etc

THIS PLOT... would allow to explore the unanswered questions.. link back to Alien...  fits in with the Sources information..

And makes a lot of sense...

But alas.... THIS IS HOW I WOULD HAVE DONE IT..

Is it what we shall get?

Think maybe Fox should just get me to do them a Draft for the sequel lol

When i saw those leaked Props of Baby-head Aliens (which Neomorphs are not like) and the fact the Covenant is a Colony ship with couples..

I instantly thought.... maybe they will re-do the Holloway-Watts scene from Spaights draft.... having a couple, who expecting a child... get the Female infected.. and seeing a intimate Scene.. with a BELLY-BUSTER..  would fit in with how such Alien-Baby Head monsters could come about...

Imagine it.. it would Top the Chest Buster in Alien..

Then when i heard of the Shower Scene... i thought WOW maybe a theory like i had as above in the Shower would be EPIC>>>

But alas.... its just a Xeno Tail on a retake of the Lambert Scene in Alien...

I think my Pregnant Belly Burster in Show Scene would Topped the Crap out of that... LOL

Myrddin365
I probably should have specified memory loss since we have no reason to assume or deny actual amnesia. But I also wasn't suggesting it was directly linked to the face hug. While face hugs have been known to cause loss/disruption of memory (including Kane who remembered next to nothing) other causes could be anything from black spores, Walter/David drugging him, or hitting his head in the event he were to fall when he gets the hug.

That aside memory loss was only a musing which I say is just as probable as him birthing the Xeno before he even meets back up with his crew (especially if Walter/David restrains him somewhere and tells the crew he was killed). There are of course other possibilities, but memory loss or death prior to crew reunion seem to be likely.

BigDave

I agree David seems critical enough that it would make sense for his journey to continue into the next film. Whether or not they'd move forward with that idea, who knows. But it seems worthy of considering for a subsequent film.

I also like the idea of Daniels getting a hardcore dose of reality about the engineers, humans, xenos, black goo, and taking up Shaw's role but with the intention to destroy rather than discover. This would fit with her filling both Shaw's and Ripley's role, as she'd have the knowledge Shaw sought and the conviction to destroy as Ripley did. If this storyline is pursued and done so properly, we could imagine Daniels as the metaphorical mother of Ripley and grandmother to Amanda without the tackiness of an actual bloodline. I hope we get both the David and the Daniels outcome. Having Daniels ultimately face-off against the neo-morphs/xeno-morphs, David against the Company, then perhaps in the fourth film they embark in a joint struggle to reckon with the engineers.

Farfetched? Maybe. But with the right approach it could really nail the epic scope Ridley originally sought to achieve.

...or fail miserably :p

Hi! 

This  plot summary must be fake. Otherwise this will be the worst alien movie ever for me. There are a lots of weak and stupid ideas in it.

Otherwise I choosed to beleive:

- this is not the home world of the engineer.

- Shaw is not dead. Or at least David did not kill her directly.

- this planet is the real destination of the Covenant. 

- Shaw doen't want to destroy the Engineers. She wants answers.

- David can not controll the neomorphs.

- David is not evil as Ash was also not. He just want to creat. And "Sometimes to create, one must first destroy"

Happy new year!

Regarding for the direction they going the leaks would make a very decent movie..safe movie with the walter david twist could ne interesting.

I want this movie to be about the goo and why it was made and know more about it..i want to know what david agenda is.

Next sequel i want to know why this primitive engineers are different from the other bulkier advanced ones( space jockey) and why they want to kill us or why they made us...i want to know where the goo came from true origin.

I wanna see the adult deacon..its creation is a process that will mostly likely never happen again..went through a lot of complicate stages. This deacon must be bad ass...god its his host.

However i want to know zeno hierarchy and how they work.

Because they need to explain it. How the queen fits in all of this.for me is a huge flaw. First the egg and the proto and then the quee ...come on.

I want to know why they made the goo..and i want to know it came from the true original beast...something like a ultramorph creature..true ultimate weapon.

I dont really see the classic xeno as dangerous as before in alien..i see the queen dangerous..but i want something to top that. Something that came from the gods and not us..because we are not gods to spawn the perfect organism.doesnt make sense at all.they dont need us to replicate at all.huge flaw they need to fix ASAP.

Deacon must kick any xeno ass it came from a god..so they cant just drop it.

I wanna know what happened to it...i wanna know what happened in lv223.something was chasing them.

I wanna know that and im happy.

And please dont make the deeelict in lv426 2000 years old..cuz u will need to explain how the fuck those eggs are there and spawn classic xenos. Dont fuck it up ridley

Csasziee

This is not the homeworld of the engineers.this is their paradise..their eden.david destroying it could make them mad and that could go that way..

Shaw is dead i believe.if david or not we dont know.according to leak looks possible. What intrigues me is that the trailer doesnt show us a bad David...it tends to show a bad walter...but then again david can be walter at some point.

I think david is really mean.his agenda doesnt have any consideration for humanity..he doesn t care about us.hes evil.ash was evil or you didnt see the same alien i saw..he had absolutely no regard for humanity no feelings. Bishop is the only android that shows good actions and judgement considering humans.

Shaw didnt kill the engineers david did..shaw serves a purpose to david..assemble him for him to continue his agenda and experimentation.

This planet cant be the destination of covenant.it woudnt make sense.

David controling the neomorphs would be cool but dont know how that will be played. I think insight on his exprimentations and lab will explain if its a thing. I think its very possible..if hes playing god he might be into something that has to do with his agenda.controling the species could be part of it. Its not a new concept either.

I think, David will continue to research for find immortality.

Who Peter Weyland expectation from him…

Shaw — what will be she/ or was —  we don’t know yet. Also if she died i want really nice explanation for that.

As i am, a lot of people loved Shaw character. 

Different Xeno’s for me it’s goes ridiculously. I don’t want another “Newborn style” weird Aliens.

I want to know how this xenos burn, grow, died.

I think Ridley Scoot seen all Alien and AvP films. And like it to grow story for more money. Maybe Fox pressed to him like that. If a Queen was released 1986, wondering—to—die; why want to change the Xenos evolution way??? 

I want to stay Alien movies a cool classical as Alien and Aliens.

If you want to make a Alien movie, you should be do better than before. Fans want this.

He add Engineer to series but did not answer questions fully.

And this Covenant part, i think still did not explain answers.

They make another alien characters for more talk… Not to tell us full story.

If this paradise planet didn’t Engineers planet, why they don’t go original home of Engineers? 

If Engineers had a couple of planet to live or make black goo, why others don’t want to go Earth and destroy mankind?

A lot of holes had on story…

Double post

The story could be much better. It was really poor writting...and they messed up.now they are trying to fix it but i see this verynhard to achieve

If this is true, my theory about David creating the egg is correct, I'm sure he's the one who pulls the strings altogether, and also the "god"-like entity Ridley was talking about. 

Never since The Terminator and T2 has a robot been so scary imo. 

We then have to ask.. how does Shaw depart... surely she cant fly a ship on her own.... and if David helps her.. to get away.. why would he want to mean Harm to the Covenant Crew.

If Shaw on her own found Engineers or related... how can she communicate with them.... for this kind of Plot to work she would have to meet some very Benevolent Engineers

bigdave.I get what u are saying but remember its been 10 years since Prometheus, im sure shaw would have gotten david to teach her the base language of the engineers in that time and she may well have the basic knowledge on flying the engineers ship, I believe david has a level of feelings (or what he believes r feelings) towards shaw and may protect her, this being his redemption. remember the shaw character is the reason we have a sequal.she is the one wanting all these answers which makes me doubt ridley would want to kill the character off so soon