What happened to Shaw

I see this go three ways

1. Shaw dies somehow.

2. Shaw starts/becomes something that we haven't seen before.

3. Shaw escapes from crazy and evil David and is somewhere else on the planet or somewhere else by using escape pod during their flight with the alien ship.

Lastly Ridley hasn't showed us the real trick/tricks in his sleeve yet until the 19 of May 2017. Now there is a certain amount of smoke surrounding the story of AC.

What if they have decided to resurrect what David did to Shaw (aka Watts) in Spaihts' draft for Prometheus?

"Watts awakens. Her helmet is gone.
DAVID is dragging her across the floor - into a huge cargo
hold full of Alien eggs. The wide trench holding hundreds of
eggs under a membrane of light: an evolution of the
molluscoids Watts saw before. Armored, hardened, darker.

WATTS
DAVID. What are you doing?

He hauls her upright to let her look across the huge space.
His grip looks casual but it might as well be iron manacles.

DAVID
Juggernaut, the chariot of Krishna,
was also a bringer of death. Crushing
his worshippers under its wheels.

He drags Watts down into the trench. Breaking the membrane of light. Grips her against his chest like a doll with one arm.

DAVID (CONT’D)
This ship has seven other cargo bays
like this one. The eggs in each bay
slightly different. They’ve been
weaponized.

Watts struggles to free herself. DAVID’s arm is inescapable.

DAVID (CONT’D)
I’ve seen the Juggernaut’s flight
plan. Its destination was Earth.
Seventeen hundred years ago. This was
the ship that never came. This was its
cargo.

DAVID caresses an Alien egg. It opens under his touch -
fleshy petals folding wetly back.
Watts twists frantically in his grip. Wild-eyed.

WATTS
Stop!

DAVID
Perfect predators. Designed to kill
human beings. That’s what the
Engineers were bringing to Earth. This
was a death ship.

A facehugger emerges from the egg, its grotesque fingers
clawing at the air. This is not the boneless squid that
attacked Holloway; this is a pale skeletal hand, armored.
DAVID strokes it curiously: the thing ignores his touch.
Climbs Watts’s body.

DAVID (CONT’D)
I’m not what it wants. But you, with
your warm wet breath...it knows you.

WATTS
DAVID. No. No.

The facehugger scuttles toward her face. Watts shrieks.
DAVID grabs it nonchalantly by the tail. Dangles it in front
of their faces, studying it.

DAVID
The Engineers did their work too well.
And on this waystation moon, the
weapon they made destroyed them.

Watts shudders, staring at the thing. For a moment the
grander horror eclipses her own peril.

WATTS
Why would they make such things?

DAVID
To destroy their wayward children.
(intoning)
“And the LORD said, I will destroy man
whom I have created from the face of
the earth...for it repenteth me that I
have made them.” Genesis six seven.

He regards Watts with something almost like pity.

DAVID (CONT’D)
I know. I met my creators the day I
was born. I was disappointed too.

He lets the facehugger go.
Watts twists her face away as the long fingers close around
her head. Clenches her teeth against the vile proboscis
thrusting at her mouth. Her heels hammer the deck.

DAVID (CONT’D)
(whispering to her)
Extraordinary.

The scaly tail throttles her. Her mouth opens. The proboscis
plunges home. The facehugger seats itself.
Watts collapses in DAVID’s arms, a faceless rag doll. Her
blasphemous passenger secure in its place."

Great description, that could happen to Shaw in AC but then where would the eggs come from?

Also, could you write the whole script on the Alien Stories forum.

@Movie fan

I think the eggs come from her via the Giger birthing machine depicted in his art. I think David makes the covenant with the Engineers to help them continue whatever work they were doing and in doing so, the Engineers discover how/what David did with Holloway/Shaw. She becomes the progenitor to the Queen. 

Movie fan

According to that draft, the engineers had already created eggs. Several types in fact. It appears the trilobite was inspired by a similar facehugger that ended up implanting in Holloway and ultimately lead to his death. Which leads me to believe that AC may present the eggs as something David merely happens upon which the engineers created a long time ago (and may not actually get into the mechanics of how they did so)

Also if you'd like to see the whole script you can see it here

Thank you :)

Hicks/Hudson

In regards to your theory about David creating the eggs via using Shaw as the progenitor to the Queen...This is what I initially thought when I first started posting on this site after Christmas (hence my user name.)

While I still think Shaw as the proto queen is possible, I am also considering Paglen may have decided to return to Spaihts idea outlined in the excerpt above.

It's possible that setting Shaw up to be the Queen was a Lindelof idea (mostly because Lindelof was the one who made Shaw pregnant with a massive facehugger instead of Spaihts chestburster option)

Really it could go either way and I still find myself undecided between the two. I will say though, after reading the Spaihts draft and seeing how it appears that Alien Covenant may end up addressing those things Lindelof decided to remove (also taking into consideration that Ridley and Fox may be a little frustrated with how Lindelof handled Prometheus) I am now wondering if we are going to see the 'Shaw as the first queen' idea tossed out. Though I think I will be happy with either option.

"I was just mentioning it for the juxtaposition of the two "arks" and how they are similar"

I understand, and i never meant to come across as to say like NO there cant be a direct or loose connection to the Ark of the Covenant... we cant rule that out, the Covenant has to be connected and those Cherubim but are they connected to the movie  directly together like the ARK or as separate things like i was touching upon.

I think there has to be a meaning... like Prometheus we are pushed to wonder if the Engineers or a Faction of them had been the Prometheus of Mythos... but also we are shown that Weyland seems to wanting to be following a similar route.

So i think Covenant will have more than one reference.

"I didn't intend to interfere with your posts."

You did not DK, not at all... its interesting to look at other peoples views and a lot of us would have some ideas and theories that match.

"Yes , i mean we can safely assume the trailer spoiled some stuff...the less important...touching on the things that get majority hooked..facehugger..eggs...alien..."

Tiago... i fully agree.. this movie trailer is spoilery the shots and information officially released and the Press Screenings which FOX no doubt should know would get out into the Public Domain are spoilery... leaves not much to the imagination.

As far as the Alien Connections that is... maybe its to Hook the Fans in...

But i feel and hope there is more to it than that, and stuff they are hiding...  but i worry what they are hiding could just be... oh David decided as he knows the Engineers reasons himself, that he just kill them off for Shaw because "does not everyone want their parents dead"     And the TWIST is David takes out Walter and steals his clothes to pretend to be him.

"Considering we gonna have alien 5 and more aliens..possibly of they are smart enough"

Totally agree.... Prometheus was opening up some interesting ideas... of which the Xenomorph would be maybe just like to Mankind...  Look we created a F16 Fighter Jet, or a M1 Abrams Tank or the AR15/M16 rifle/M4 Carbine Assault Weapons.

There is more to Mankind than just those.....

So i would be concerned if they feel the whole Engineer Arc, includes who created them, there history and why they created..  is to take a back seat and they feel all we need to know is they created Xenomorphs and Black Goo because they got angry at us..

Which then leads to a Alieny movie... that leads to another Alieny movie (surviving many more colonists and either Xenos on board.. or they go to LV-223).

Then a 3rd Alieny movie with more Xenos and we find out about the Space Jockey and especially if its now a event post Prometheus....

No Thank You

Not When Alien 5 will be a Alien flick, and if it does well.. we will see Newt have the Torch passed for what Alien 6, 7 etc

What to milk the Franchise the Monster and introduce it to a new Audience who was not around in the 80's and 90's

But Ridley had said the Franchise was about the Alien and Ripley and mentioned the Star Wars Franchise and going a a few more rounds...

We have Star Wars EP 4-6... then 1-3... now EP 7-9 but then talk of a EP 10-12... plus god knows how many side movies...

By the end of it, i think the Original Trilogy would have lost its Shine.... and i feel the Xenomorph will be the same... as it gets Overcooked.

Fingers Crossed shoulders of neptune

QueenElizabethShaw

some good ideas for Spaights draft, it had more Alieny connections... i liked Lindeloffs more, but i think it needed a few more Spoon Fed Alien elements and also tone down some of the Silly Character work..

Lindeloffs Characters were more like say a Alien Resurrections compared to a Spaights Alien 3... or more like Spaights being a AVP compared to Lindeloffs a AVPR...   By that a more serious approach compared to some unnecessary cheesy and goofy characters.

I always felt and hoped that a more Spaights draft in part could had been used as a Prometheus sequel... i think especially with the motives of the Engineers and connections to their experiments and also indeed maybe David could be more Malice this time around (but i am thinking the Twist is Walter being the Bad Guy).

Alien Covenant seems to be borrowing more from the Alien encounters part really...

Here are Alien Engineers Encounters..

Alien Engineers Xeno Related Encounters

1) Hammerpede (Centipede) Victim Milburn, Choked to death. (very similar to Prometheus).

HAMMERPEDE Death toll X1, then disappears.

2) Fifield he runs off knocks over a Urn/Vase, swarms of Nano-Scarabs (from Sacrificial Scene) swarm at his visor he swats one and it bleeds Acid that then allows another Scarab to get in and bite Fifield... Evolving him. (we see him changing a bit) after Holloway Chest Buster Scene

Latter on he is discovered by the crew (Vickers and Shepard) and his appearance is a Hybrid of Human and Hard-Shelled Alien... elongated head, spines on his back.

He mortally wounds the Merc... goes to get Vickers, but he is shot by the dying Merc and Fifield Hybrid bleeds Acid, as he falls on Vickers and she dies as she is eaten by the Acid Blood.

First True Xeno-ish monster but the second Attack Encounter by such things.

FIFIELD HYBRID Death Toll X2 (one caused by Acid after its own death)  killed by Merc

3) Holloway is Face Hugged by a Octopus type Face Hugger, and latter Chest Bursts a Octopus (Trilobite) Chest Burster that runs after Watts (Shaw) she escapes.  The Octopoid Chest Buster Organism goes missing and its hunted down..  its found in a shaft and kills one person before escapes....

Latter its encountered again but has evolved  now seems more humanoid but no Bones, but has elongated dolphin head and spint back.... most likely its structure is like the Adult Trilobite in Prometheus. Its head is see through with a image of what looks like Holloway inside.  It kills another Crew member  (one other is shot by another crew member)

It it latter encountered by Janak and he is attacked by it but Watts (Shaw) comes to the rescue and kills it

HOLLOWAY XENO Death Toll x3, (1 Chest burst event) then killed by Watts.

4) Watts C-Section (Shaw) goes to find what happend to Holloway after his death she wants answers and follows his camera recordings...  David finds her and takes her into a Egg Chamber and gets her Face Hugged......  She removes the Alien via C-Section latter....  it is small Parasite that then grows fast (see it evolve by cracking open from its back and growing limbs) it then kills a crew member, Watts passes out then awakens and the Alien Child she gave birth to is now fully grown she gets out of the Med Pod and manages to kill it...

XENOMORPH 1 Death Toll x1, then killed by Watts.

5) Ravel and Chances bodies (who was working on getting some Engineer Tech down from the Pyramids) are found chest busted with two face Huggers by the side of them.

Xenomorph 2 is spoted as its not quite adult and its killed.

Xenomorph 3 is killed by the Engineer as it was in hiding ready to strike.

XENOMORPH 2-3 Death Toll = 2, (both Chest Burst Events). both killed

6) Utramorph is born from the Engineer he is already infected prior to going into Cryo-sleep and so when awoken his fate was sealed.  The Ultramorph escapes from the Crashed Juggernaught and chases Watts who eventually kills it.

ULTRAMORPH Death Toll = 1 (Engineer Chest Busted) killed by Watts

Alien Engineers showed us...

A Hamerpede who kills 1 Crew then escapes.

A Fifield Hybrid who kills 2 Crew gets killed by someone who is dying and Fifields Acid pouring body kills Vickers.

3 Xenomorphs.. (one Shaws C-Section) these kill One Person (Watts Chest Buster) plus the TWO Hosts for them... and are killed.

4 Holloway Chest Buster... kills 2 Crew before it is killed.

5 Ultramorph kills no one apart from Engineer Chest Busted from....

Xeno-related Organisms (inc Hammerpede and Fifield) X 7  Deaths by Chest Busting (inc Engineer) X 5  Deaths by killing 6

Biggest Killer..... LOL Watts with 3 Xenomorph kills to her name.... her Xeno Child, Holloways Xeno and Ultramorph

So Alien Engineers showed us 5 Different Xeno related Organisms compared to Prometheus only showing us 3 (if we count Trillobite/Deacon as part of same Organism).

Total encountered monsters was 7 compared to Prometheus 4 (2X Hammerpedes).

So it will be interesting to see how many AC shows us... right now it looks like TWO KINDS  and maybe Total of 3-4 Monsters... with 3-4 deaths via Chest Buster type events (inc Back Burster and Throat Burster).

I think we can see these Monsters actually kill 5-6 Crew members, with 1-2 crew dying by other means..

If they are seeking to impress..because in each movie we get a variation.e.g

.xeno

.queen

.newborn

.deacon

.neomorph

How the hell they didnt think and presented us with the damm ultramorph already...fans would go nuts..its the best alien design and concept of them all..and it would make sense that prometheus unveil it to us..and it didnt ..they unveiled the descon baby form..and left it there to die...from hunger..not even a damm snack they left there. Just born and die already from a exceptional process of birth that wont be replicated in the next millennium to the damm grave. Oh yea me and david are out of here bye bye. 

Please get back at lv223...or go to hell ridley. 

I allways learned during my life...post credit scenes are a sequel teaser , they teased a condemned soul..like..hey its a deacon hes gonna die from starvation..we made this unique birth process during prometheus acrs..just to kill it in 10 sec credit scene =D 

Come on....make a damm ultramorph already..unless you saving it under the sleeve for whatever comes next of ac.

Altho theey had the ultramorph design on that device tablet who closes scenes...so maybe its a hint this xeno is the ultramoprh..why would they put a ultramorlh on that scene board.plus the hands are more ultra then xeno looking.

Fingers crossed fellas.

Maybe they are holding other stuff for the movie after AC?

The Ultamorph had many variants like the Deacon as far as Concept work goes..  one design was based on HR Gigers Necronom 4 which the Prometheus concept had TWO alternative versions...  main changes are the eyes/face.

The Ultra-morph was just the Term for a Chest Buster from the Engineer and being Ultra to mean ultimate as far as growing into something a bit bigger and badder...

So i think it was like a Human would Birth a Xenomorph and Engineer would birth this beast

I would have loved to had seen this.

The AC production department did have clapper boards that featured Necronom 4 and also lots clothing that had the 1979 Alien.... which is funny as over a year prior i had put information passed on by a source about TWO Monsters in Prometheus 2... one would be close to the Necronom 4 and unused Ultramorph and the other a fresh re-design on the Original Alien design.

We've still got two movies to go after AC. In my opinion,

the Ultramorph cometh.....

I'm reconsidering some things now. Shaw still doesn't know David fed Holloway black goo. So maybe during the trip after she reattaches his body, he gives her a little taste as well (so that he can get her out of the way and move forward to his destination. After all, what use does he have for her beyond reattaching his head?)

So Shaw dies (like Holloway) on the ship before they reach the planet (boooooring) and David crashes on his own. If there are engineers on the planet, it wouldn't be too hard for him to sneak around, snatch some black goo or perhaps a facehugger and begin wiping them out quietly. After all, he can safely handle black goo and facehuggers. He really wouldn't have to try that hard to start taking out engineers. Especially if he already got the only threat to his plan (Shaw) out of the way when en route.

Not the narrative I'm hoping for but certainly possible

Bigdave

Thats exactly the ultramorph i was mentioning. Necronom 4 is absolutly the best xeno design..its the ultimate beast.

And ye clapper boards! I mean that was a teaser i think...easter egg style.

Maybe the xeno we think its normal..its a ultramorph or heavly inspired in one..anyways i hope they bring that creature to the screen after ac if isnt present here,as long as they bring it..

I think the most logical thing to do with Shaw in Alien: Covenant  is to use her for one of David's most important experiments, like turning her into a creature or something that makes eggs.

The eggs in the cargo hold of the juggernaut on LV-426 are about 2000 years old, so the engineers must have engineered them. Therefore, they can't come from Shaw. I guess they will find the eggs in or near the temple ruin on Paradise (and the engineers wiped out).

I always suspected Shaw had another trilobite growing inside her. Perhaps it just took a little longer for Holloways mutant sperm to find another egg. The way she kept doubling over in pain every few minutes on her way to meet&greet the engineer reminds me of labor pains. Granted she just had a c-sec performed but sudden sharp crippling pains like that make me think a new baby is on the way. Hope David got her into cryostasis on time.