Engineer Weapon System

Ingeniero
MemberPraetorianMarch 03, 2017The Engineer in the beginning of Prometheus consumed a small amount of black liquid in order to affect a planet.
With such a small amount used before the Engineer elders left, what would happen if David 8 used to contents of the cargo hold shown above (or from the juggernaut shown crashed) to wipe out Paradise on arrival?
David 8 obviously can turn it on and pilot the juggernaut.
Why wouldn't David 8 be able to carry out the plans the Engineers on LV-223 had for Earth but on their home?
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The opening on the face hugger resembles the opening on the side of the juggernaut (and other things thank you DeaconLove).
Do you think this is the opening for the weapon system, a way to deploy black goo tech from above?
The similar opening on the face hugger delivers the egg.
If that is so, I would expect to see eggs or goo containers near that entrance to deploy. I would also expect to see a barrier to seal the ship from the vacuum of space.
I agree dk that we didn't see the weapons near where they are set to deploy from but the Engineer technology blends into the background.
The green goo (covered by Cerulean Blue) was spread over everything to provide nanotech connections to support hologram playback (that David 8 initiated) and an infinite amount of capability that I couldn't even imagine.
The juggernaut ship looks like it was carved out of a mountain and then saturated with nanotech to reinforce and build out the internal systems. The Janek's Prometheus ship knocked it out of the sky but was crumpled like foil hitting the rising juggernaut.
Whatever the juggernaut was made of, the ship was a solid homogeneous structure that took the hits of both the Prometheus and the ground below. And one from Vicker's hands but that was minor.
I would think the weapons blend into the background like other Engineer nanotech embedded in their construction via green goo and things we haven't see yet.
The pilot's chair rising above is an example of the Engineer technology that blends into the background to be called into use. The juggernaut ship also blends into the background, see below.
The ship is organic, its a freakin living thing of its own...the engineers do not create life they seed it because its their mission given by the force ridley didnt reveal yet...
Organic is a better way to put it. The inside of the Engineer helmet looks like lettuce, grown for the task.
I despair every time I see the image of an anthropoid adonis in the place of what should be the elephantine space jockey.
I agree that the Juggernaut, looks, feels, and moves like it was biologically grown (test tube baby...?).
As far as the cargo...Just one cannister of black nasty dropped into a major water source would ruin our day. What would it take to kill only 100 mutated "Fifields...?"
Dropping all of that on earth would be like using a thermo-nuclear device to kill the rats that keep crapping in your granola.
Maybe the Engineers were on a bus-stop schedule of destruction...and our planet just happened to be the next on on the line..
@Stan - The whole engineer/space jockey thing bugs me as well, but for another reason altogether. The Bro in the chair seems much larger to me than the Engineers we say on LV-223.
The Engineer in the chair's head also looks somewhat artificial compared to the ones in the prologue.
Back to the OP- it seems the goo canisters would perhaps be put on some kind of conveyor belt and drop the payload out of the vaginal looking exits when the target is identified and in range?
Its unknown really....
So it could be possible.... that those entrances could be used to Drop the Urns or Eggs... but they dont seem to directly connect to the Egg Chamber... the Juggernaughts Cargo hold they link up to it better but still not directly.
The Pilot Chair Telescope thing looks like its a Canon you could load Urns into but how does this fire? Unless the Window above the Control room opens and then they can fire the Urns out?
I always thought they could be exhaust system? as the ship seems to propel itself from the back... i.e those 3 entrances are at the back
R.I.P Sox 01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017
Exhaust as BigDave stated, or maybe a miniature atmospheric creation/terraforming mechanism for space travel/hostile environments? Perhaps using living biological/cellular based walls as an Oxygen catalyst?
They might be used for both exhaust and deploying urns and eggs? That seems more efficient.
I think its another one of those things where they never thought the design of the ship out at all.... at least maybe.. i hope they now have sat down and have actual schematics for the whole ship
If we look at the plans for how people can enter the ship we had two different ways as far as concept work
anyone who can translate french may be able to get the answers.
So we have one from the Front and another access from the rear, i think both could apply.... the Map of the Temple in Prometheus seemed to hint the crew entered via the other opening as in the first image.... yet latter Shaw was shown to exit the ship via those 3 openings shown in the second image.
The Cargo Holds would have been held at either A or B on above images maybe both and they would have the same either side of the Center Control Room
This may help us to figure out how does the Cargo get to where it is dropped or fired from?
As you can see it seems the Prometheus Crew entered the Rear that is the Front of the Ship and so opposite end to those 3 openings yet they ended up in either Section A or B first.. the only explanation is that from the Entrance there is no direct route to the Central Part and so the path goes around in a circle around point A and they enter the rear of this section.
R.I.P Sox 01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017
So looking at those images i fail to see any place they can be dropped from apart from those entrances but how do they get to that part?
Other option is one or both of the like Hammer-Head parts of the ship... but again how do the Urns get their?
Maybe we can find out in Alien Covenant?
The only thing i can consider is they are sucked down in the Cargo Area to a lower part of the ship and they go into some-device that the Urns dissolve or at least a part does and so then the Goo is then transferred via pipes to another part and is Sprayed out instead of being dropped.
I have no idea how this works with the Eggs
R.I.P Sox 01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017
Really great pics BigDave of the juggernaut hologram and analysis. And good find with the French Alien artwork.
The large green bubbles seem to signify segregation of some sort inside the juggernaut hologram and it does look like cargo holds.
BigDave the French artwork may be inconsistent with Ridley Scott's designs in regards to the holes on the side of the juggernaut. Another artist's take on the limited available information on the juggernaut design and function.
This may be similar to the reason we saw Giger influenced walls and structure in Aliens when the team on LV-426 went into the xenomorph hive.
Would the xenomorphs build something that looks like the Engineer construction of the interior of the juggernaut in the area of the hive the military reaches when looking for the colonists?
This just might be James Cameron's take on the xenomorph capability without consideration for the Engineers place in the story.
Indeed we have to assume that too, if we assume those Urns we see in Alien Covenant come from David and the Juggernaught he had.
Spaights draft did show many experiments relating to the Xenomorph where they was working on 8 different kinds and all 8 was stored in the ships.
But this has changed now to the Black Goo Urns so i would assume they do have the same Cargo... but maybe the Genetic DNA in each is a different variation..
Maybe this is why in AC the Aliens are different a bit to the Deacon based ones in Prometheus?
R.I.P Sox 01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017
I think a more interesting thing we forget to look at a lot is how they are stored in the OT Picture..
They seem to be stacked up and some on their sides, and encased into some kind of Material thats Set.
Almost like you are Concreting a Drive or Floor and then you stick Batteries AA sized into the mix and then it sets.
If you get what i mean...
Its just hard to think how do they remove them from where they are stored, does this stuff when activated simply Melt away.. does some reaction happen like say THERMITE?
I mean this would surely Burn those who it is dropped onto so are these Ships kind of Kamikaze One off Suicide Missions?
But then what is the Purpose of the Urns in all this?
Unless they are actually some kind of Bio-Tech Battery Power-source that causes a Reaction.... One theory a few discused before was could they merely be Biological Fuel Cells...
That accidentally leads to a contamination... like say Fukishima and the result was Mutations... that then those Engineers then realized allowed for something to be created?
As the Juggernaught in AC does have like dirt/ash powder on the floor and so we see similar around those Engineer bodies etc.
So is it kind of like the one element that makes Thermite as above on the Left?
R.I.P Sox 01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017