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I liked the movie despite its faults. What about you?

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ninXeno426
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I love it more every time i watch it!I used to hate I now i love it!

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S.M
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"I liked the movie despite its faults."

Same.

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Fan since the early 80's and I'm one of the very few that like Alien 3 the most out of the entire series... just a matter of right place at the right time.

I'm in love with the first two (obviously) but something about the Gothic look and feel of Fiorina and especially the concept of the hybrid/dog/ox alien... and Dillon (one of the greatest characters in any of the films)!

Saw as a kid it back in '92 when it came out - one of the coolest experiences I've had. My buddies and I were right into GW's tabletop "Space Hulk" at that time (in fact, I think we played it when we got home from the theatre. Seeing the film infused my imagination to that game and it's artwork... and thoughts of A3 bring it to life for me every time we play... even today, I put the sound track on while gaming).

I know there are serious flaws with the script, etc. (it feels unfinished)... but a brilliant piece of work nonetheless with outstanding actors and visuals. Would love to see a remake with Vincent Ward at the helm!!

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Honestly, I think it gets better with age.

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I like it. It's not as good as its two predecessors but I tend to enjoy it more than anything that's come since, though maybe AC will change that.

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I like it better than Aliens. Only thing I can't stand is the CGI. It's bad. But, the atmosphere and the suspense is fantastic.

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Over the years I've come to like it more.

I place it third, after A L I E N, then PROMETHEUS.

It gave a profound end to Ripley's story arc....pity Fox couldn't have left it at that!

 

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ALIEN 3 is a masterpiece, Fincher's finest work right next to Fight Club. Also, better than Aliens!

But I wish so badly that Fox goes back and fixes all the optical printing for the special effects.

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The only CGI in Alien 3 is the cracks on the head at the end and the dirt flying past the camera on some of the early exterior shots.

The bambi burster in the Assembly was also CG, but nothing else.

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I thought the movie was not to bad, had some flaws but otherwise it was decent a 6/10 from me. 

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

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"My buddies and I were right into GW's tabletop "Space Hulk" at that time "

Ah i remember that... and Space Crusade and Advanced Space Crusade they was all easy to set up and get into Games, that was cheap to play compared to the more Complex Warhammer 40K ;)

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

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I've always liked Alien 3 and I went into the theatrical release back in '92 knowing Ripley's fate (a friend who saw it the night before let the Jones out of the bag lol), but it didn't keep me from wanting to see it. I had heard that Sigourney Weaver was co-producing the film, so I just assumed that she wanted to bring an end to the Ripley character. Overall, I liked the film. I didn't "love" it, but I definitely didn't hate it.

 

What made the film exceptional years later was when I picked up the Alien Anthology on Blu-Ray and I finally got to experience the "Enhanced" version of the film, which many refer to as Fincher's "Director's Cut", which broadened the character development, had the Xenomorph birth from the ox rather than the dog and also showed Ripley not birthing the alien queen during her Nestea plunge. This version of the film is worlds better than the theatrical release and I highly recommend picking it up if you've only seen the theatrical release.

After all these years, Dillon is still one of my favorite characters in any sci-fi movie. Charles S. Dutton's performance was world-class in that film. 

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I never got the hype about the Assembly version of Alien 3.

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It was a different host and apparently some audio was cleaned up. They skipped the final burster moment too. Otherwise I just stick to DC or assembly cuts just because they often have some tid bits the theater cuts didn't have.

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I was a fan of the movie, I much prefer Alien & Aliens but have no problem watching all three, whereas I have a difficult time watching A:R without cringing..

The acting was brilliant, but I agree overall the CGI could have been better.

This was my favourite scene, and probably one of my favourite scenes in the entire franchise..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCTd1XHbliU

Morse's reaction is absolute gold and reminds me of Palmer's reaction in The Thing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15hHUK1lIgk

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I like Alien 3 a lot, but it took me some time to really warm to it. Alien 3 is Alien3. What it is not, is Aliens part 2, and I think that is where I initially fell into the trap of anticipating a movie that was Aliens part 2. The Alien franchise has been nothing short of biblical, and killing off the main character does not always go down well, unless there is something in store later. At this time of year I am reminded of Jesus, who like many tradesman mysteriously vanishes on a Friday and inexplicably turns up three days later. Resurrection does change the perspective of things. As much as Blomkamp wants to resurrect Ripley in what could be an Aliens part 2 movie, at present it looks like Ripley has about as much chance of coming back as a sliding glass on a ouija board. But who knows?

I would prefer it if Alien 3 kept within the overall scheme of things, but I would’nt complain too much if there was an Alien 5. I have a soft spot for Alien 3 despite its shortfalls.

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I saw the movie at the original theatrical release.  Like many folks, I was disappointed in Alien 3 because (1) it killed off Hicks and Newt at the beginning and (2) moved away from the Colonial Marines, firepower and a horde of aliens spectacle.

However, over time, I have come to appreciate the movie and believe it is thoroughly under-rated. Here are my reasons why:

(a) Alien3 is a throwback to the original Alien. The dark, claustrophobic environment; the under armed humans; a single alien foe; a great cast (Pete Postlethwaite, Brian Glover, Charles Dance, Charles S. Dutton etc.); 

(b) The assembly cut provides the film to the audience that the Director intended for us to see.  Thank you Alien Anthology.  Not some corporate edited garbage that Fox foisted on us & in the process upset Fincher to no end;

(3) Some great scenes: Brian Glover being picked up from the canteen, the Alien confronting Ripley in the Infirmary and

(4) The reappearance of Bishop with the commandoes in the final scene.

 

Just one man's thoughts.

Today I have been dedicated to post on as many topics as possible until I pass out from drinking too many beers. 

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I think the enhanced version of Alien 3 is really, really good. It suffers from some poor CGI effects, but apart from that this movie has grown on me through the years. Upon viewing it for the first time in the cinema, I suppose I was expecting Aliens pt 2 and was disappointed that it was not. However now I'm glad they tried something different. I just wonder how amazing it would have been if the production process would've been smooth and less interfering from the studio. 

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The Assembly had a couple of good extra bits but was generally too slow, wasted time on characters that were dead five minutes later in the first half, and has a lot of redundant scenes in the second half.

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It's the assembly cut i prefer actually.Ever since i first saw it,i haven't been able to watch the (botched) theatrical cut since.It's just a richer and deeper experience in my opinion.

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The Assembly comes across as 'This is absolutely everything we shot, slapped together'.  Which is exactly what assembly cuts are.  There's no attention to the flow and pacing, until you actually get down to cutting - hence the redundancy throughout.

The theatrical cut version cut a little too much, but it's a much tighter piece.

 

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I agree that there should be some balance between the two,but there are things in the assembly cut i vastly prefer to the theatrical.Here's an example:While it's simply an alternate scene,i prefer Ripley dying with out the chestburster.To me it shows that her life was still in her hands.For the theatrical i prefer the dog to "babe" but due to the size of the ox,the bambi burster makes more sense,but that's just me.

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Bursting on the way into the furnace was the best result.  Giler and Hill wanted her to burst on the gantry, break the bursters neck, the throw herself in.  Fincher called this janitor duty, and didn't want her to burst at all.  I think it was Richard Edlund who said the burster on the way down was the best payoff for the audience and I agree.  It maintains the concept of Ripley making a conscious choice to kill herself, but still allowing us to see her burst after dodging it for three films.

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I wasn't aware of the neck breaking,i'm not sure how that would have worked.

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It's in the comic adaptation and based on that I don't think it would've worked very well at all.

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ninXeno426
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Yeah.I would almost say an exception could be made for the queen,but what difference would that make?Chestbursters kill,I don't think anyone can survive it.They most certainly could not break it's neck.

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I don't think it would've worked because a) how does she live long enough to not only kill it, but then throw herself into the furnace b) how does she have the strength c) it's hard to imagine how she could've held onto the slippery squirming burster long enough to kill it and d) yeah, how could she break it's neck?

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Agreed.The whole breaking the neck thing is a little too AVP for my taste any way even though Alien 3 came before that movie.It's such a silly scene,the chestburster flys out and the predator grabs it and snaps it neck.

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Love the story love the cast and I too liked the version with more character development- furnace chestburster scene wasn't necessary and I agree how could she still be conscious to hold it and break its neck?  Don't know if it's do-able but-Someone needs to take this thing and re-do the CGI to be quality- like where it's seamless like parts in avatar I could not tell where the stage ended and the computer animation began.  That tunnel/door scene could be much better without too many odd angles and good CGI. "That things really pissed off!"

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The full body shots of the Alien aren't CGI.

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...Ah i see- it was a model/puppet superimposed or if you want to be technical "photochemically composited" from IMDB.  that was the flaw - just didnt hit home (for me)- it looked like it was glowing.  Whenever it was real the fear was real.  Otherwise i liked it a lot. 

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The puppet actually looked pretty good and the performance of it was good.  The compositing was sub-par though.

The weird thing was, Return of the Jedi was nearly 10 years earlier and that was really pushing the boundaries of what effects could achieve with models, puppets, bluescreens, rearscreen projection, etc.  The VFX on Alien 3 were often a lot worse than the 10 year old ROTJ - a film which Fincher worked on.

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Thanks DK

 

I like it because of the over-all hopeless feeling of it. They are out there in space far from earth and no one seems to care about them so they try to keep some sort of order there that they have made of their own.

 

Alien 3 deals with existence and religion in an interesting way that I like. The doctor (Clemens) is like a counter weight to that which makes sense because then you have two sides of it – those that believe and those that don’t.

 

Don’t take this too literarily but I remember that someone at a web page complained that the prisoners had too similar dialects, that didn’t bother me because they managed to build different characters. One character that I found interesting was what seemed to be some sort of religious leader (although he was a sort of informal leader), Dillon. The way that he and Ripley interacted with each-other was interesting.

 

Golic is an interesting character, yes he is insane but he is an important part of the story. They should have kept him locked up, that is what I have got to say about it.

 

It has more of the feeling of the original Alien movie in the way that it is less action and more like a thriller. At the same time, there are things about it that makes it different to Alien. One example that I like is that there is no Lambert character sure she wasn’t bad and had her purpose but to repeat it that close to Alien (1979 and 1992) would have been a mis-step in my opinion.

 

There were problems with the movie making so it is interesting that they got it made after all that happened.

 

Newt and Hicks were killed but I never had any problem with that. It wasn’t that they were bad characters, they didn’t feel that interesting and the Alien franchise has never been about “we’re a happy family” kind of feeling. Maybe they could have done it in a better way but I don’t have a problem with it.

 

Alien three has two versions, I prefer the one that wasn’t shown in the movie theaters (the special edition I think they call it). It seems to me that they characters are better written and so on. There are scenes in it that adds to it.

 

I don’t understand how someone can prefer Prometheus to Alien 3 but I am fine with that. I don’t say this to bash Lone’s opinion or anyone else that thinks so but that is simply how I see it.

 

S.M:

 

“Giler and Hill wanted her to burst on the gantry, break the bursters neck, the throw herself in.”

 

That seems like it would have been a terrible decision. Burster-victims are supposed to die from it.

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I'm so hooked on ALIEN 3 I bought all the costumes from the film. No replicas. The real robes and stuff.

Get your original movie prop now, just in time for ALIEN DAY:

http://www.ebay.fr/itm/ALIEN-3-VINTAGE-FIORINA-161-PRISONER-COSTUME-SCREEN-USED-RARE-ORIGINAL-/201886359219?hash=item2f015d5eb3%3Ag%3AEYYAAOSw03lY58yn&_trkparms=pageci%253Af5ac2293-209e-11e7-b12b-74dbd180cb91%257Cparentrq%253A6998d5dc15b0a6a4a6a82660fffd02d8%257Ciid%253A37

 

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Right on Sergeant Apone. Don't let anyone give you any lip about it. Good job.

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After the original, Alien 3 is my favourite. I dont understand why everyone hates on it so much. Its not perfect but it at least stayed true to the godless dark vision of the original unlike Aliens, Resurrection and the AVPs.

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I hated it when I first saw it as a kid, but I recently rewatched it and found it to be better than I remembered. I actually prefer it over ALIENS, which I think is highly overrated. A3 is my third-favorite of the franchise, after ALIEN and Prometheus.

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I love Alien 3 - Aliens was right on trend for its time, huge production full of kick ass rhetoric, hero saves the day but blows the whole world to shit doing so type of thing - remember this is when the action movie blockbuster was at its peak. Alien 3 is grittier, it feels more real in a way, characters are terrific and it was a great cast. Got to say I also agree with the older members here, it has grown on me over the years in the same way that my love of Aliens had lessened.

Hated AR when it came out, still do & although I have watched it again a few times I only go as far as that white abomination being born and I turn it off!! Ridiculous film, ridiculous story, ludicrous casting and it doesn't know what it's trying to be! 

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Please add me to the official list of Alien 3 fans.

I read the novelization before watching the Assembly Cut and plan to soon pollute the discussion with Fiorina 161 analysis. I missed so much in 1992 at the theater.

The last sentence of the book is great regarding the radio transmission that will go on forever in space.

"This is Ripley, last surviving member of the Nostromo, signing off."

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I love Alien 3 as well! I prefer the theatrical cut with all of it's problems. The great thing about all of the first 3 films is they are a welcomed departure from the previous one. The first is sci-fi horror at it's finest, then Aliens is a great action film all around, great characters, great set pieces and Alien 3 is kind of that great being chased by a monster feel, they have no weapons to fight a xeno, all 3 great movies!

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