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Are Yutani Corporation Geisha Model Descendants (now Weyland-Yutani Corporation) manufacturing Walter?

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Are Yutani Corporation Geisha Model Descendants (now Weyland-Yutani Corporation) manufacturing Walter?

Who is building Walter?

Thank you BigDave for pointing out the potential connection (Yutani Corporation Geisha) long ago.

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dk
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It appeared to me that they were assembly line synths building a synth. That may leave humans out of the equation and possibly in the dark into what is being programmed into those chips. Sorry to be redundant- I blabbed this on a couple threads yesterday.

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Damn,you beat me to it Ingeneiro lol.I think of them along the same lines as Alien Isolation's working Joes.A lower level model designed primarily for working.

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Yes and it looks like they are made in this room or one like it.

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This room. And is this Walter or David?

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The working Joe is a good comparison to the figures in black- you can always trust a working Joe!

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Visually,it's strongly reminiscent of Ex Machina.
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@ninXeno, yep "you always know a working joe"

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Yes, good classic point dk. A generic, no frills, technician.

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ninXeno426, yes with the mesh.

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Are Yutani Geisha a thing?

I think the video is an ad.  It's marketing a product; not giving a completely accurate representation of how synthetics are actually constructed.  Everything is exaggerated to look pristine and expensive; not realistic.

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Some of these were in the topic related to DNA and the David/Walter construction methods topic and I tried to consolidate the images on this topic with new images.

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I will stick with the initial thought but SM makes a good point and it could look less sexy like this:

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BigDave brought it up as a potential addition to the Prometheus 2 plot S.M a while back and we discussed it in the construction debate.

It was just theory discussion and I noticed the eye makeup that was clearly shown (behind mesh) and the movement of the technicians (in concert).

I'm ready to be schooled (sincere) if there is any depth to a Yutani Corporation product like this in the movie novelizations.

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Japanese Kendo influence

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The eye make up is visible but so is the otherwise featureless face with no lip color at all. Looks not human to me.

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A very heavy influence Geisha Lady. Thank you for that image.

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I agree dk, does not look human.

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"It's marketing a product; not giving a completely accurate representation of how synthetics are actually constructed.  Everything is exaggerated to look pristine and expensive; not realistic."

I agree for the most part S.M but the similarity of the rooms where they show construction and the moment Peter Weyland talks to either David or Walter is where I disagree in regards to manufacturing.

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Better shot. 

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And I'm sure they will tell these people anything they want to hear.

Take me home to run your existence and I'll tell corporate (all other Walters) everything.

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Yep- and I can't help but be reminded of the Matrix Second Renaissance.

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Blade Runner of course but still Ridley Scott. Tribute to Geisha Lady.

Exactly dk, I watched the animated Matrix shorts too (and that one was by far my favorite).  

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They do indeed have that Geisha look...

A few things to consider that the Weyland Industries site for Prometheus touched upon.

*Yutani is a Asian Company (Actually Japanese Based)

*Yutani have their own Synthetics but lack the realistic Patents that Weyland Synthetics have.

So we can assume their Synthetics are more like Star Trek Commander Data, and well more advanced looking than Working Joe Models.

But certainly would not fool most people that they are Human, where as the David models and following, were very much Human looking in every way.

I was working on a P2 draft Fan Made, in 2014 i abandoned it, but i did have Yutani using Geisha Androids

However we cant say for sure if indeed those Females are Synthetics at all....  they are Asian and wearing Geisha Pale Make Up.

 

 

 

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

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That seems pretty thick pale make up- and for no apparent practical purpose. If it was for sterile field purposes, fine. But then I would also expect that if they were human, then they should essentially wear equipment to prevent exhaling possible internal contaminants from their lungs.

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It appears that androids are assembled by other androids with really nice eye makeup for customers with lean jaw lines and good skin.

"forfeit DNA rights in perpetuity." appears to read that DNA is provided for the development of the Walter (on credit) and if you do not pay then your contributed DNA is company property to use in Weyland-Yutani Corporation interests.

 

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The shot with the customers is an obvious homage to 2001.

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I noticed S.M.

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I figured many would've.

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I felt that way too S.M, especially with the music played in the room with large open white surfaces and with the shot with the customers. The well to do in the future always seem to have really great collars on their blouses and shirts.

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The DNA screening also reads that genetic abnormalities (or anything out of the bell curve window accepted) might forgo providing a Walter to that customer...another indication of DNA provided to construct the Walter model opposed to a titanium skull and 100% synthetic parts like the earlier David model.

This would lead to the conclusion that all Walter models are related to at least one human or all Walters are related to only one human. It would not be a stretch to then to speculate (thank you BigDave) a part of Peter Weyland (DNA) was in each of the Walter models.

Then maybe all Walter models are related not only in their synthetic components but also share an organic connection as well with a DNA contribution and a "consciousness imprint."

I'm not sure of what a consciousness imprint is either but that would explain the transfer of knowledge from one previous model of android to the next newer model if they have this capability with a human customer.

The David and Walter androids also appear wrapped differently (in similar plastic and with styrofoam spacer pads) with David in a plastic box (see below) with folding lid and Walter is woken up with a full head of hair and handed a drink.

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I wonder if there will be a merge with Tyrell corp (which also manufactured synthetics)? Tyrell-Weyland-Yutani corp :)

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There are speculative links to the Blade Runner franchise fanned by the flame that Ridley Scott is producing both Alien: Covenant and Blade Runner 2049.

With this oversight, I can't imagine the technology not having consistencies in look and concept (think of the rover overall look in The Martian and the rover in Prometheus..and other examples).

The mentioning of DNA in the forfeiture of property rights in relation to the Walter synthetic disclaimer begs me to conclude that DNA was used to produce the Walter model for the customer and to integrate DNA with a "conscious imprint".

Both of these concepts are how Eldon Tyrell approached his product development with genetic engineering and introducing "memories" in the synthetic to cushion a personality. 

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A trailer for this topic has been uploaded to YouTube. 

Thank you all contributors.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwyNYNcR59pbLUGn4_qhx8Q

 

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