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Theory: Is the Black Goo Cameron's Queen?

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Ingeniero

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I have cited the black goo urn possibly shown (title image above, top center) in other topics. (No urn as far as we see now, an Engineer's head instead, thank you Ati.)

Why wouldn't black goo in Alien: Covenant be what we expect from a queen in the xenomorph cycle shown in James Cameron's Aliens (1986)?

I have considered the Trilobite in the image of the queen in the xenomorph cycle but black goo may be the queen or womb.

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A trailer for this topic has been uploaded to YouTube.

Thank you all contributors.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwyNYNcR59pbLUGn4_qhx8Q

 

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"Or is it ALWAYS a Xeno, regardless of the animal?"

auximenes, I believe the facehugger gives you a xenomorph and the "animal" affected is just a canister to grow it in.

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I'd say always a Xeno but with some traits of the host organism/creature. Like the runner from A3.

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Tiwaz, I believe you are correct. The host is the canister for the xenomorph but there are obvious traits retained from the host. We see differences in the xenomorphs and that is most certainly due to different types of host organisms.

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Here is a better shot of David 8's worktable.

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Apologies, but I had to edit the title for this topic because too many dense people on social media can't fathom or take a minute to read that this is a fan discussion in a fan forum. Smh

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Talk 'bout digital dementia...... *whistle*

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I knew eventually that I would be censored Chris.

No, I'm actually flattered. I am not a part of social media so I had no idea of the controversy. That's so awesome. I'm sorry you had to address it. It is still a little awesome though but not great enough for me to take part in social media.

I do start all my Alien: Covenant, Prometheus Analysis YouTube content with an "opinion" clarification. I still receive very unfortunate feedback in commentary.

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Unfortunately that's the way of the online world. Rarely do supporters voice their support, it's always the anonymous haters trying to boost their self worth by crapping on other people's ideas. I try to ignore them but you guys here are like family and so I feel a need to defend you when people decide to throw shade. But as they say, haters gonna hate. Haha

Sorry to temporarily derail the topic tho folks, carry in with the OP! 

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Thank you for the support Tiwaz.

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I appreciate you saying that Chris

You did take away from my expected praise in regards to the workshop table image I posted above though.

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You're welcome, Ingeniero

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Theory: Better shot of David 8's worktable.

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Theory: *facepalms and gins*

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Tiwaz, a little different enhancement and angle.

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So does the facehugger inseminate the host with a modified Black Goo then? Instead of changing the host into something else (Fifield) it creates a new life taking from the host's DNA?

What then, is the point of taking phenotypic traits from the host? The Runner Alien in A3 for example took the quadrupedal gait from the dog/ox host. What evolutionary advantages does this give the newly produced xeno? I mean a Runner alien is certainly not going to blend in amongst other dogs/oxen lol so its not for camouflage.

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hmm maybe its David pursuit of a perfect organism exhibiting itself within the Xenomorph DNA coding.

Perhaps David couldn't create the perfect organism but he modified a species (Neomorph/protomorph) that was close to perfect, with the ability to organically mutate a perfect organism?! 

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"... What evolutionary advantages does this give ...", hm, good question.

Lemme think... Just hypothesizing:

Genetical diversity:

Xeno or not, a copy of a copy is bound to become flawed at a certain point. Therefor you need some "fresh material" to prevent that.

Enviromental Adaptation:

Taking traits from local species makes it better suited to enviroment it is born into. Examples: High G, jungle or even ocean.

But that's my take.

 

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Environmental adaptation makes a lot of sense, as you say, it helps adapt to their environment.

My first thought survival of the fittest ie. face-hug the hardiest species in the environment. Though, whichever species was stupid enough to stumble into a xeno nest would hardly be my pick as a host indigenous species lol. I guess it could prove they are brave/tough/resilient enough to make it that far I guess. Have a good flight/fight response. 

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I'd further assume a facehugger only impregnates creatures within certain range of sizes. Too big and the hugger ends up as chunky acid salza, too small and the result is too small to pose a threat. If it even survives.

Further I don't believe a facehugger carries goo. Neither does the queen. The way I understand it BG is a very potent mutagen/accelerant that changes existing lifeforms. It does not impregnate them.

Maybe its "coded" to deliver certain results in the end, like a xeno-ish lifecycle. But that pure speculation.

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