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Svanya

AdminPraetorianApril 21, 2017

Was looking at the new images and realized a couple of the engineers on the planet were smaller and had more delicate features than the others. Could they be females?

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BigDave
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I think indeed these beings are not Engineers per-say...

Who knows... we need to remember that the Elders Scene has been cut... so IT DOES NOT EXIST.... and so while the Hall of Heads shows us similar beings, maybe we wont see what they are like.

So we wont be able to tell if they are older versions of these Humanoids on this World, or if they are older versions of the Marbled White/Grey Skinned Dark Sclera Sacrificial/LV-223 Engineers which the deleted scene Elders seemed a part of.

I think again the explantion could be if we look at Paradise as in Context to Paradise Lost and the Bible.

Paradise is not Heaven, we well in Christian Faith do not go to Paradise when we die, well as far as the place the Garden of Eden was and Adam and Eve had came from and been banished.   Paradise is thus not where the Gods come from, or where there servants the Angels do, but its a place that was created for the purpose to Create First Mankind and to be Guarded by Angels.

So if we look at it this way then it means Paradise, could be a place some Engineers watch over, but that it was  a place for the creating of Early Mankind.

So these beings have to be some off-shoot of Mankind, Previous Generation or a Generation after us.

Unless its a Huge Oversight...

The Skin and eyes ( never mind other features that was prosthetic in Prometheus) that we see in A and do not match what we had in Prometheus with C and D

If they was going for the look of C and D on the cheap then it would not have cost much to do a E + F Contacts and as only head and face needed doing then i bet this would have only cost them what?

$100 per Actor plus costs (wages) for make up team, and so only had taken about 30 min 45 min tops per Actor in make up chair plus $70-90 worth of Black Out Contact Lenses, and if brought in bulk so enough to cover say 10-20 closer ups it would be cheaper per person.

So i cant see this having a effect on the budget and so its either a Oversight (they dont appear for long and we not expected to freeze frame and zoom in).

Or there is a reason they are different.

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The Source i had did say Mankind (Modern) is the 4th or 5th Generation of Mankind and the Engineers are connected Genetically to our Evolution.

Does 1 (Elders/Engineers) and 2 Beings on Planet 4, replace 1 and 2 in the Hominoid Generations shown underneath?

Or are the Elders/Engineers classed as Two Seperate Generations or are they not even included in that Generation but from them was created 4-5 Generations in which case are Number 2 (Planet 4 beings) one of those Generations, are they number 1-4, or are they a 5th-6th (come after us).

I think its something interesting to consider.

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big dave - that was amazing to me.

you have to be onto something.  

so this city is maybe where mankind was developed.

with help and guidance of the engineers223.

they have tech which allows a jugganaut to dock.  so theres a good chance these engineers 223 are a part of life here.

maybe these engineers 223 are fallen angels who either visit on occasions or once visited until they had an issue with the elders.

im still thinking the engineers 223 are creations of the elders, who visit civilisations, possibly collect offerings or at least report back to the elders with details of their progression. when the time is right they seed planets.  this is what causes them to have a stand off or war with the elders. not wanting to give the ultimate sacrifice in the name of creation.

is this where the angels become fallen angels??????????

Take This.... This is the blood of our lord

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@BigDave, you are right, the eyes of A, B and E are human eyes with whites and their skin has a pinkish tone instead of complete alabaster like the promethean engineers, are these the one's that in the fresco in the urn/head chamber with the bird ripping the guts out of thereof?

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One of the engineers in the picture has a covenant landing crew hat on? Is this a subliminal joke of some kind? Unless there are multiple covenants that have already been sent to this planet?

like davids chair at the start looking like the scorpion ship, is there a hidden message here, possibly egyptian?

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That pit that is in the middle of the large arena, could it be like an area for dropping in a deacon or xeno, which is then killed by the crowd? the war engineers are recognised by the peace engineers? That means they are all targets for elimination by david.

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...looks for me like daniels, as seen in Trailer#2 at 0:39.

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Going back to the original question... R Scott draws heavily from Bible and he probably had "Giants" in mind when he created Engineers.   Another possible analogy is Titans in Greek mythology.  I remember a passage in Bible that went something like "Giants married daughters of man."  No female Giant or Titan as far as I recall.

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There were definitely females.

the Extras got paid much more than $100. (because I was one)

and it took many hours to prepare. 

 

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BigDave
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wow i bet that was amazing BOZ..

Hopefully long after the movie is out, you can maybe tell us if you knew the intentions of these beings... as in are they supposed to be the same Engineers as in Prometheus.

But respect this is something that cant be answered as of yet

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

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SUPER SPOILER! So please do not look at it or read if...well you know. So has anyone noticed one of the new Funko dolls for Alien: Covenant? Look at the body...Dr. Shaw's uniform. UGHHHHHHHHH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

 

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Happy birthday mate.

 

Thank you .. I'm the main bloke in that picture above..

was a good day and amazing food they serve. 

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Also, I don't know anything about the engineers background. Nothing was told to us about the storyline 

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Hi Boz.

Was the shoot you did filmed at Fox here in Sydney? How many extras in that scene were actual people you filmed with as compared to being put in via CGI in post?

Any behind the scenes stories/things you have that you can tell … ?

Great to have you here :)

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Thank you BOZ

I think it will remain open for debate then... i do wonder if they will choose to not answer this in interviews... so it leaves a Mystery for us all to talk about.

Are these Engineers, Are they Creators of the Engineers, are they creations of the Engineers.

I think along with why we was created, and the whole Engineer History, who they also created, the Black Goo and where it came from...

I do wonder if all these will remain a Mystery like the Space Jockey was kept for nearly 33 years

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

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pretty sure this is a female Engineer 

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I think its depicting the fact that there are several lineages of Engineers.  Possibly that the ones from Prometheus were less watered down or that the Engineers have a societal sect for Warriors, Academics, etc.  

Throughout Prometheus, the image of the Engineer (large Face/Head statutes) is shown to be something that is worshiped or a shrine.  Those statues resemble the Engineers in Prometheus more so than the ones depicted in Covenant.  

 

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"Was the shoot you did filmed at Fox here in Sydney? How many extras in that scene were actual people you filmed with as compared to being put in via CGI in post?

Any behind the scenes stories/things you have that you can tell … ?"

 

Hi Tonehound and thanks mate. 

No, only the costume fitting, prosthetic's  and arm shaving was done at fox studio over two separate days. 

The shooting was done at box hill near Bankstown/Yagoona way on a cold winters morning 28th June 2016. I arrived at 5:00 am where we all had to meet in a carpark to meet a shuttle bus which then transported us to another location kind of like a quarry. 

Anyway, make up took about 3.5 hours, then shooting took around 6 hours.. I stopped earlier because I pulled a hamstring with hours of continual running on cobble stones. 

After seeing the movie already I was surprised at how little was actually used for the movie when you consider the amount of people involved for that days shooting and the amount of scenes that must have gotten cut. 

Absolute amazing amount of resources used, just mammoth in my opinion.. Probably small for them but, wow!

I alone was paid $450, there were around 50 of us. They chose me to yell: "RUN" because I was the ugliest. 

And yes, there were sheilas in there 100%.. I'll send photo of one getting her head shaved that I took during shave day, and whatever else I have on my phone. 

This is one of the girls... sorry, i don't know why they're coming out wrong way around. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Whoa what an experience that must have been! ^^^^^

btw when you said you screamed "run!"", was it in English? Do you know if these humanoids are suppose to be different from the Prometheus Engineers?

Is there an agenda the mods are not telling us about? ;)

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Dude!,  they look pretty sick, is there more bts Engineers pics

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