Dr. Elizabeth Shaw repairing David 8 on the Engineer craft.
Ingeniero
MemberPraetorianApr-26-2017 12:46 PMI believe all of this segment when Dr. Shaw is repairing David 8 is part of Alien: Awakening.
Ridley Scott said it was a "piece from the world of Alien."
AdamPD
MemberFacehuggerApr-27-2017 4:30 PMI agree, I think she's sick as well.
But, man there's so many things we don't know, it's frustrating haha.
As another has said in this thread, it seems David learnt all about the Engineers during the trip to their planet.
But I have to wonder if Shaw was complicit in bombing the heck out of them.
I still believe the engineers see us as nothing more than an experiment, to be terminated and for them to try again
To them, 2000 years might be like us baking a loaf of bread in the oven, it not rising correctly and us starting again, to make it perfect.
The Prometheus planet was basically the "reset" tool for planets which hadn't worked out as planned, given that there were multiple ships, they've obviously been seeing multiple planets over a long time and they return to each planet every X years to see it's progress.
They probably consider this planet in Covenant, "Paraside", because it's their perfect planet, where they are worshipped by their creation
I wouldn't be surprised if this is the planet where they come back to hand pick an individual to seed another planet, like the one we saw in the beginning of Prometheus.
That docking platform was moving automatically to the centre of that big area and the hangar doors were opening, I assume the elders would then come down in a shuttle pod or something similar.
Ingeniero
MemberPraetorianApr-27-2017 5:14 PMI tried to zoom in a little and enhance the areas the sequence focuses on.
BigDave
MemberDeaconApr-27-2017 5:21 PM@Grinning & Dropping Linen
Indeed i had discussed the same too, in that forgetting everything after Prometheus and only looking at the last scene we saw when she got his head..
Shaw has nothing left to live for, the only thing is her Faith, her whole Religion had been put into question, these beings who she thought would be Benevolent Gods, are not... she would rather take the Chance of Death (as we all will) to get her answers than to die of old age and never know.
David however, he has desires to Live, he was finally Free, i am sure he wants to survive and gain more experiences and knowledge and even maybe has a Agenda?
He would know going to the Engineers and facing them would face possible risks...
*Do they have defenses to take them (Shaw and David) down
*If they fool the Engineers, eventually they would have to come face to face, and then what happens then?
David does not understand why Shaw needs her answers, but you can bet David is not content at being a Headless Corpse. And then to risk this again.
He would know that in the ruins of the Engineers Culture he could gain some Answers, and so Destroying them and then Salvage what ever answers he could... would be the most Logical Thing for him to do.
There is a Chance he can get the answers this way, if not well it does not matter to him.
He would want to explore the Engineers Technology more, and with them Dead then he is left to it all to himself...
So if he has a Agenda... he would now be GOD...
But turning up to Face the Engineers, has a greater risk of David eventually being turned into a In-operational Tin Can.
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BigDave
MemberDeaconApr-27-2017 5:25 PMHowever... now we have the Prologue we can see that indeed it would appear its a matter of Months before David gets put back together, in which time Shaw is cautious and David has to build her confidence and persuade her.. Wise move by Shaw.
But it appears during this Process, David grows Fond of her and how she treats him how many he had always wanted to be accepted by Mankind.
If we assume they thus dont leave right away, then indeed when Shaw is in Cryo-sleep.
That Plan i mentioned prior would be in his mind, he would be weighing up the Odds of Survival and Answers Face to Face.
So he could find things from the Ship, or even leave the ship and explore a Temple and Study these things in more depth... from this he could indeed get some ANSWERS...
R.I.P Sox 01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017
Ingeniero
MemberPraetorianApr-27-2017 6:42 PMBigDave, it does appear months (not years) later that David 8 puts Dr. Shaw into hypersleep.
"But it appears during this Process, David grows Fond of her and how she treats him how many he had always wanted to be accepted by Mankind.
If we assume they thus dont leave right away, then indeed when Shaw is in Cryo-sleep."
It does not look too long after Dr. Shaw went to sleep (above) that David 8 attacked those with the juggernaut (below).
Ingeniero
MemberPraetorianApr-28-2017 6:26 PMHere are closer looks at the supplies of some kind, an open book, and tools next to David 8 in repair are apparent in the below images.
Ingeniero
MemberPraetorianApr-28-2017 6:27 PMAn enhanced version of the beautiful Dr. Elizabeth Shaw.
BigDave
MemberDeaconApr-28-2017 8:17 PMDavid 8 came with a Haynes Manual lol
As far as the time Shaw goes into the Cryo-Pod to David Bombardment not being long due to his hair, his hair has not grown in these scenes much since Prometheus but Shaws has.
I would assume Davids grows longer, i will assume that these scenes from when She collected his Body to when she goes into Cryo-sleep (regardless if this time between is in Space or on LV-223) is a matter of Months i would say at least 6 Months up to 12 Months, i would then also assume the journey to where they ended up must have taken no more than a Year.
Potentially much much less... because we can assume the Covenant takes up to 5 years otherwise it would be a Post Weyland-Yutani Ship. I can see the Juggernaut being vastly quicker.
So i will assume David has misled Shaw, maybe because there is another reason he wants her asleep... either for his Agenda... or maybe because he senses something is not well with her and he wishes to put her in Cryo-sleep to safeguard her well being but he does not wish to tell her this.
I would assume for Davids hair to grow by the time the Covenant arrives he has spend most of the last 10 years on that Planet.
R.I.P Sox 01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017
Babylonxeno
MemberFacehuggerApr-28-2017 10:48 PMI agree with bigdave, David must either remember his secret objective of obtaining all alien tech for weyland, or decides himself to get the knowhow for an attack.
its so bold to attack an entire civilisation with one ship. There must be a lot more to it.