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Rick D

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With all the different genres in the Alien franchise, where do you think Alien: Covenant fits? 

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BigDave
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Well i guess Prometheus was Adventure i guess?

This must mean Alien Covenant was a Romantic LOL

 

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Guess if they used any more Poor CGI it would be a Animated ;)

Guess with the Flute playing it had a bit of a Musical?  Judging by Reception i guess maybe its a DISASTER Movie ;)

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BigDave Alien Covenant: The Animated Romantic Musical lol!

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gore doesn't mean horror. look at the predator movies. none classed as horror yet we see a mans head blown off, skinned bodies hanging all over the joint and a man completely blown to bits.

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I agree that Gore and Blood does not have to mean a movie is a Horror, all they do is make some scenes Horrific...

I dont find AC a Horror myself at all, it all pretty much was more like a Alien Resurrection with less Action, a bit of Philosophy and Thriller element added and more Gory.. but it was still pretty much no more a Horror than AR was IMO.

I think Alien 3 was more a Horror than AC, Hell even Star Ship Troopers could be seen as just as much Horror as AC IMO

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'gore doesn't mean horror. look at the predator movies. none classed as horror'

Really? I've found this:

The Predator film series is a science fiction action horror film franchise based on a race of fictional extraterrestrials created by Jim Thomas and John Thomas. Produced by 20th Century Fox, the series started in 1987 with the film Predator, which led to two sequels and novel, comic book and video game spin-offs. Related to the franchise is the Alien vs. Predator, which combine the titular Predator with the creatures from the Alien film series.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predator_(franchise)

BigDave - So we can jump to the conclusion that Alien Resurrection is neither a Comedy nor a Horror comedy. :)

 

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Ati
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Let's look at the definition of the term horror film!

A horror film is a movie that seeks to elicit a physiological reaction, such as an elevated heartbeat, through the use of fear and shocking one’s audiences.

The macabre and the supernatural are frequent themes. Horror may also overlap with the fantasy, supernatural fiction and thriller genres.

Horror films often deal with viewers' nightmares, fears, revulsions and terror of the unknown. Plots within the horror genre often involve the intrusion of an evil force, event, or personage into the everyday world. Prevalent elements include ghosts, aliens, vampires, werewolves, demons, satanism, gore, torture, vicious animals, evil witches, monsters, zombies, cannibals, psychopaths, natural or man-made disasters, and serial killers.

Some subgenres of horror include action horror, comedy horror, body horror, disaster horror, holiday horror, horror drama, psychological horror, science fiction horror, slasher horror, supernatural horror, gothic horror, natural horror, zombie horror, first-person horror and teen horror.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horror_film

We can overexplain the different expressions but...

Alien is a British-American science-fiction horror media franchise centered on the film series depicting Warrant Officer Ellen Ripley (played by Sigourney Weaver) and her battles with an extraterrestrial lifeform, commonly referred to as "the Alien", and depicting android David 8 (portrayed by Michael Fassbender) and his experimentation in creating said lifeform.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_(franchise)

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"Guess if they used any more Poor CGI it would be a Animated ;)

Guess with the Flute playing it had a bit of a Musical?  Judging by Reception i guess maybe its a DISASTER Movie ;)"

BigDave That was funny

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A Predator movie cannot ever been confused with a horror movie. I agree blood does not guarantee a film will be a horror. But the blood, together with the props, animatronics, viscera, makeup, even tricks of lights make for a visceral experience in horror, as opposed to cgi. Ridley Scott used to be a master with those. Talking about genre, I think AC is the Alien film that uses the most "sub-genres": like slasher, grand guignol, monsters, outbreak, rogue AI. It is all of these genres and none at the same time.

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Gotta agree with you Joylitt. it is one hell of a mix up. I found biopunk to be the best sub genre fit overall. AC does tick a lot of boxes.

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Batchpool - 'AC does tick a lot of boxes.'

Exactly! You hit the target.

And if we don't want to/don't have time to name fifteen genres to describe a movie/AC, we say it is a science-fiction horror.

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ati

I found this

Predator is a 1987 American science-fiction action directed by John McTiernan.[4] It stars Arnold Schwarzenegger as the leader of an elite special forces team which is on a mission to rescue hostages from guerrilla held territory in Val Verde in Central America's Northern Triangle. Kevin Peter Hall co-stars as the titular antagonist, a technologically advanced form of extraterrestrial life secretly stalking and hunting the team. Predator was written by brothers Jim and John Thomas in 1985, under the working title of Hunter. Filming began in April 1986 and creature effects were devised by Stan Winston

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Alien: Covenant wasn't scary and it definitely wasn't a horror film.  It was a suspense.  To be exact, it is a sci-fi suspense movie (with drama and gore and a dash of epic imagery which doesn't compare to the epic imagery in Prometheus, but that's okay).  

Suspense is the key work here.  

Ka-ching!

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Edited for I Moon Girl...you are right, imagry was pretty good...so it was a "visually moving slasher". But I also agree that Prometheus bested it. I feel bad for the audience of AC that didn't have the back drop of the other films. It had to be confusing and probably didn't recruit a new fan base (important for ratings/sequels?). And for those with the historical back drop...i feel bad for them (me) as well, it had to be confusing. :-)

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