Ridley Scott says he will do another Alien movie with no horror and no alien

Adding the aliens was fine but they shouldn't have shown them in the trailers and teasers. In hindsight, it gave us nothing to look forward to or be surprised with.

dk agreed, and on top of the promo material that in no way reflected the film, didn't help either.

Ie. a certain poster

Sounds great to me, The Alien  franchise needs to be kept fresh. To be honest how many chestbursting scenes do we need to see?

Scrib Fair point- I think we have had enough. Although it would be interesting to see a David mouth burst scene. It would tie in with his swallowing and regurgitating the embryos at the end of AC.

I would like to see that movie with no horror and no alien. Honestly speaking the birth of the Deacon in Prometheus did not fit in the film unless there was a plan with the Deacon for the future. Apparently there was no plan, just Fox trying to keep the AVP fans closer, thus keeping the film smaller than it could have been. 

I think we had enough aliens bursting out of people bodies. Time to move on.

I think Ridley Scott at 80 is more open minded than the most of us.

daliens So what is the reason to keep the "Alien" name according to you, other than cashing in on the brand name at the expense of the suckers in the audience? Covenant pulled the bait and switch trick on the audience already: it didn't turn out so well. Ridley Scott's pitch for the sequel is exactly the same as Covenant minus the aliens. I would love to see the marketing campaign around this travesty.

Let's remember that when Ridley Scott makes a bad movies, he makes them really bad, and actually he repeats himself a lot. Robin Hood, Exodus, Kingdom of Heaven have scenes that could be exchangeable with those from Gladiator. Same for his action thrillers from this century. I had the hopes the sci-fi genre was something special for him, but it seems it is not. If he stays on this path he will make the same movie again. A real waste of talent.

The reason is Fox trying to lure in the monster loving people, like it was with the poster for Alien Covenant or with the chestbursting queen from Alien 3. The same reason of the marketing campaign around Covenant. 

Ridley Scott's pitch for Covenant was around the xenomorph, how and by whom it was created. Now that we know this, it is time to move on.

Do you think that Prometheus, without Alien in the title and without the Deacon does not belong to the Alien universe? 

I think most of the audience cared more for Ripley than for the son of a bitch. Like they cared for Shaw. Like they should have cared for Daniels. And as the xenomorph opposed Ripley, there is David now who took its place. The xenomorph was there as part of the setting, the symbol of an alien universe.

Ridley Scott made bad movies when his heart was not in those movies. Exodus was by far the worst. But Prometheus and Alien Covenant are not bad movies, he is one of the best of the sci fi directors. At least this is what I believe. Try to imagine how disgusting Covenant would have been if directed by Tarantino. 

daliens  You cannot blame the studios for how the characters have been depicted in Prometheus and AC. This is all on Ridley Scott. All the stupid whimsy, so pervasive in both movies and in all the virals, which he seems to think is so cool. That is one of the worse things in the prequels, an absurd postmodern touch that has overstayed its welcome.

I only blame the studios when they force some aliens into a story that was thought without aliens. I believe the aliens in Covenant are a result of fanboys crying out loud after the lack of xenomorphs in Prometheus. And Ridley Scott gave us again the beast, although he said and believed the beast is cooked. He continued to present it as a weapon and showed us how it was created. But did he intend to follow this path for a Prometheus sequel or he gave up to pressure from Fox and fanboys? As we saw recently with All the money in the world, Ridley Scott accepts the challenges from the studios, he replaced Spacey, the engineers.

If he wants to continue the David story why not let him do it. After Ripley, David is the most fascinating character of the franchise. I want to know what's he up to next. Ridley Scott can give us this story. A xeno populated film can be made by anybody later.

Why not have a smaller cast with attention payed to them ala the Quadrilogy? We all know about the xeno now, so why not have it but more in the background? That would allow for a good movie whether it be focusing on either the Engineers or David- or perhaps both. I love the Xeno but am ready to see the focus shift.

double post sorry

daliens So what do you think the story was supposed to be about if it didn't feature the full cycle of the xenomorph? Remember that Ridley Scott said he wanted to get to the back door of the original Alien. So in the film they needed to make a point that this is the same type of creature that later on was on board of the Nostromo. All the studio interference narrative is just an excuse for making a bad movie, based on a poor script.

One thing I do know: there has never been a harder time to produce an original movie, what with money men breathing down the neck of writers and directors on one side, and the voices of a million over-invested fans screaming at them from the other side.

Face it, people: we will never get another Alien. What we might get, though, if RS and his writers can find a moment’s peace in the maelstrom, is an interesting movie that might take us in directions we did not think we wanted to go, but now that we’ve gone there, we realise it’s been worth the journey.

Don’t assume that forcing film-makers and storytellers to do what you want as an audience member is going to give you what you want. You might want to eat fish fingers every day, and watch the first Alien movie over and over, but maybe a different meal and a different experience is going to take your mind into a new place.

New places are scary. Because they are different and new. Give writers and directors a chance, and they just might bring something brilliant and new into the world. But they won’t they can’t hear themselves think, and if all they feel capable of is meeting the competing needs of angry, entitled fans.

Alien: Covenant is a lesson to us all. It is a dog’s dinner of ‘you asked for it, you’ve got it’ images and themes, and underneath it is part of a good movie that was gradually strangled by the obligation to put more monsters in it.

Give Ridley space. And expect the unexpected. New things are good things, and might scare you more, and in a different way, than a made-to-order wander through the shadowy castle in space again….

One thing I do know: there has never been a harder time to produce an original movie, what with money men breathing down the neck of writers and directors on one side, and the voices of a million over-invested fans screaming at them from the other side.

Face it, people: we will never get another Alien. What we might get, though, if RS and his writers can find a moment’s peace in the maelstrom, is an interesting movie that might take us in directions we did not think we wanted to go, but now that we’ve gone there, we realise it’s been worth the journey.

Don’t assume that forcing film-makers and storytellers to do what you want as an audience member is going to give you what you want. You might want to eat fish fingers every day, and watch the first Alien movie over and over, but maybe a different meal and a different experience is going to take your mind into a new place.

New places are scary. Because they are different and new. Give writers and directors a chance, and they just might bring something brilliant and new into the world. But they won’t they can’t hear themselves think, and if all they feel capable of is meeting the competing needs of angry, entitled fans.

Alien: Covenant is a lesson to us all. It is a dog’s dinner of ‘you asked for it, you’ve got it’ images and themes, and underneath it is part of a good movie that was gradually strangled by the obligation to put more monsters in it.

Give Ridley space. And expect the unexpected. New things are good things, and might scare you more, and in a different way, than a made-to-order wander through the shadowy castle in space again….

One thing I do know: there has never been a harder time to produce an original movie, what with money men breathing down the neck of writers and directors on one side, and the voices of a million over-invested fans screaming at them from the other side.

Face it, people: we will never get another Alien. What we might get, though, if RS and his writers can find a moment’s peace in the maelstrom, is an interesting movie that might take us in directions we did not think we wanted to go, but now that we’ve gone there, we realise it’s been worth the journey.

Don’t assume that forcing film-makers and storytellers to do what you want as an audience member is going to give you what you want. You might want to eat fish fingers every day, and watch the first Alien movie over and over, but maybe a different meal and a different experience is going to take your mind into a new place.

New places are scary. Because they are different and new. Give writers and directors a chance, and they just might bring something brilliant and new into the world. But they won’t they can’t hear themselves think, and if all they feel capable of is meeting the competing needs of angry, entitled fans.

Alien: Covenant is a lesson to us all. It is a dog’s dinner of ‘you asked for it, you’ve got it’ images and themes, and underneath it is part of a good movie that was gradually strangled by the obligation to put more monsters in it.

Give Ridley space. And expect the unexpected. New things are good things, and might scare you more, and in a different way, than a made-to-order wander through the shadowy castle in space again….

murnau If as a director you want to have that type of independence, you just don't do a franchise film. Just do an original. Why try to cash in on the name alone? When you are in a franchise you have a responsibility, you either abide by the rules or get fired (Kathleen Kennedy knows something about that)

Awesome points Joylitt

Franchise film? So 'Alien' series is just another 'Friday the 13th' or 'Nightmare on Elm street'?!?

Why would any director want to direct this shlock?! Forced to show Jason, Freddy and the Xeno.