Comic Book Preview – Marvel Alien Issues

Hello, @BigDave. I think the Writer of Marvel Alien Comics, Phillip Kennedy Johnson, wants it to BE part of the cannon, like the movies. He loves the prequels and you can hear it why in this podcast, witch i leave you the link below.

For instance, before these Marvel Alien Comics, they ONLY consider three Alien Comics worthy of being movies:

-Aliens: Salvation 

-Alien: Labyrinth 

-Alien: Dead Orbit 

These are three amazing Comics, That easily could be the scripts of Alien movies.

https://s180.podbean.com/p nob/52aa174c6cfa6bd41f0c845e2c48ae09/61365c45/data2/fs34/1031451/uploads/PO_ep_171_for_upload7pewh.mp3?pbss=0a393ce5-b328-5d63-b9ed-271fa8bb67ca

Here's the resume of the podcast episode:

The first six issues of Phillip Kennedy Johnson's run on Marvel's Alien are officially out! Join Patrick and Christian as they chat with Phillip about Gabriel Cruz, the Alpha, that Giger-esque women/alien hybrid, liberation-minded synthetics, "cleansing fire," and so much more.

Phillip also gives our listeners a first look at where the comic is going next, including some very exciting news about a new protagonist, a new setting, and some new nightmares.

Transmission Erased.

Alien covenant has great moments:

The annihilation of the Engineers by David 

The Neomorph cycle 

The Neomorph

The despise felt by David when he acknowledges the programmed boundaries  in Walter, a new android model.

The Neomorph queen Laid down on a table of David's lab.

The Facehugger egg 

The facehugger

The protomorph 

David regurgitating facehugger embryos, V - The Final Battle style

I think a Problem we have NOW is that with the Revelations of Alien Covenant, in that it seems that PRIOR to the Year 2094 there are NO EGGS, not on LV-426 and likely NO Derelict Either.

The Origins of the Vanilla-Morph if you would is Indicated as being from Davids Experiments on Planet 4 at some Point 18-28 Years Prior to the events of ALIEN.

"explaining why organic species don't survive past leaving their home solar systems"

Seeing the Comic shows the Mural from Prometheus, it depends on HOW they are going to go about this, as SOME do think this Shows the Xenomorph, but its Actually to show the Deacon, and by that as Indicating that the ONE we saw that came from Dr Shaw is NOT the First One the Engineers have Interacted with.

Some had Speculated that the STAR MAPS were Placed as a TRAP.... it would be maybe a IDEAL WAY to Deal with the Threat of having your Creations become Space Fairing.... if you LEAVE them Clues to LV-223 then they MAY go and Explore this Place First... thinking its a INVITATION..

Then they would either Become Infected with the Horrors or take them back to their Planet to Study and then see this BECOME their Undoing!

I think that THIS is NOT the Best Way to Deal with us..... but then my Interpretations of the Prequels is Different to say like the Fire and Stone Comics.

It seemed to me that the Xenomorph and the Like are NOT a Main Focus or Agenda for the Engineers..............the Horrors of LV-223 being some UPSET Engineers Sub-Creation, wanting to Create just as we see David does on Planet 4.

I assume these Comics will take the Fire and Stone Stance... and show the LV-223 Engineers and well make their Emphasis/Agenda on the Xenomorphs.

 In "David's Lab - Last Signs of Life" Video, we can assume that the company could have recovered Facehugger eggs, Dead facehuggers, Facehugged company man on planet four and, therefore, we can thing they have the protomorph ready to BE evolved.

Here's the link of  "David's Lab - Last Signs of Life" video:

https://youtu.be/oLcUiIy_ghw

Since Prometheus, we know that exist on LV-223 lots of Engineers spaceships,  canisters of black goo and even a Deacon.

Joining these two findings, we can have a possible LV-426 scenario.

Prometheus Species Origin:

That Poster of the Effects of the Goo is Flawed though ;)

But who knows what the STUFF is NOW as with AC it became a McGuffin for sure.

The Last Signs of Life Video is something that we really cant take 100% as Canon.  It was just a BIT of Fun....

The Advent Video is Considered as Canon though.

In Response to that Message from David you would think the Company would SEND OUT some Ships to Planet 4 and LV-223.   A lot of people seemed to be UNHAPPY with David in Regards to his ROLE in the Prequels.

But you can get to LV-426 without even going where David is going....  The Company will likely go to Planet 4 and the Engineers will Return to Planet 4, and so they could see those Eggs and take a Interest in them and the Engineers then EVOLVE the Eggs to what we get in ALIEN and the Ideal Place they would TAKE the Eggs to Experiment would be LV-223.

So you dont need to go to Origae-6 and after David... because in doing so then David will arrive like in the Year 2112 and so 10 Years before ALIEN and so IF the Engineers etc arrive at Origae-6 after David gets there, then your looking at a 5-10 Year Likelihood of the Space Jockey Event prior to ALIEN.

The Company will get the Advent Message in the Year 2107 then for them to get to Planet 4 and LV-223 would take them like 10-12 Months (Depends on HOW FAST their Ships are... but this Based Off the Covenant/Nostromo Speeds.

And so a Year 2108 could be about the Right Time for when the Company would have Ships Turn Up at LV-223 and Planet 4.... and while they are in the Process of that..... The Engineers could then Turn Up.

"That Poster of the Effects of the Goo is Flawed though"

Yes, i know. For instance, golden goo is different of black goo. One means life and other means death, but the origin of both could be the same.

For me, The Last Signs of Life Video is a good possibility. David could have left some of his creations on planet four.

With the Company going to LV-223 and Planet four, anyone, human, android or engineer, could be the Juggernaut's Derelict on LV-426.

With what we know from the movies, i think it's logic that the Engineer Spaceship, Kown by Derelict, traveled from LV-223 to LV-426.

THe other possibility, perhaps the easiest one, is to consider Origae 6 as LV-426.

Last attempt: The engineers go to Origae 6. An Engineer Spaceship travels to LV-426, carrying David's Ovomorphs.

Why Origae 6 though?!

If David had told MUTHUR to return to Earth...IMHO this would have generated far more interest in AC 2.

End A:C with the Covenant making a slow turn.

Speculation would have been off the charts. 

That would be amazing. Imagine David telling:

"Mother, set a course to...Earth!"

And then, he goes to play with Daniels mind!

@BigDave, Aliens: Fire and Stone is very good. I watched it here:

https://youtu.be/ofR65FfK6V4

Like Prometheus: Fire and Stone

First Issue (look for it in "Mix – OneTake")

Second Issue

https://youtu.be/u1pxep9CchI

Third Issue

https://youtu.be/vSkB85GuvOE

Fourth Issue

https://youtu.be/GFfFR16I0BQ

"One means life and other means death, but the origin of both could be the same"

The WAY to have looked at the Goo was Quite Simple.

It was Quite Simply a Creation Tool.

The Engineer in Prometheus had Consumed the Base Pathogen (Stage 1) his DNA was Broken Down and Consumed and Reformed into Stage 2 (in the Water) and this Infected Basic Life to take on Engineer DNA and Evolve it to Multi-Cellular Life.

From this Theory/Analogy then we look at the MURAL in Prometheus and if we ASSUME that this Organism was Infected with the Base Pathogen and its Broken Down DNA/Reformation Pathogen (Stage 2) was Collected in the Urns then THIS would Evolve Life to take on the MURAL Organisms DNA.

When we look at the Earlier Drafts by John Spaights we had Micro-Scarabs instead of the Pathogen, but they did EXACTLY the Same as shown in the Image i did above.

SACRIFICIAL SCARABS: Consumed the Engineer.

The Scarabs then Flew Away...... we then see Scarab Bite/Inject the Engineers DNA into a Primitive Humanoid who then Mutates and this Indicates as to WHERE we came from.  

A Primitive/Primate and Engineer HYBRID.

Then on to Fifield.

URNS: Containing Scarabs are knocked over by FIFIELD and ONE of them (Scarab) BITES him and Injects DNA into him.  FIFIELD then Mutates into a Human/Xeno Hybrid.

Thus URNS must contain Scarabs that Obtained this DNA from a Xenomorph Related Organism.

Alien Covenant just made it into a bit of a MCGUFFIN.

"David could have left some of his creations on planet four"

There are at LEAST 6 of those EGGS left in that Room on Planet 4 and so YES there are Samples to be had.

"consider Origae 6 as LV-426"

Origae-6 is Located too FAR AWAY.

It is about 8X Further from Earth than Planet 4 was and Planet 4 is Located nearer to Zeta 2 and so is Close to LV-426

By the TIME the Company should get the MESSAGE then the Covenant would be 70-72 Months away from reaching Origae-6 a Ship sent to Intercept at the same SPEED as the Covenant no soon as they Received the Message from David would be about 28 Months behind the Covenant.

This would leave David a Good Two Years+ to do whatever he WANTED on Origae-6.

The Derelict would likely be from the Engineers who would RETURN to Planet 4 at some Point and then the TWO OPTIONS are.

1) They (Engineers) then go to Origae-6 before Eventually the Ship Heads to LV-223.

2) The Engineers take the Eggs from Planet 4 to LV-223

The Engineer Ship leaves LV-223 but ONLY gets to LV-426 as the Pilot becomes Infected with the Cargo of Eggs.

"Mother, set a course to...Earth!"

We have to Remember that David has his Own Agenda Now, it seems he is NOT interested in the Company or Earth he wants Mankind Dead.  The Advent Message will ALERT the Company to go to LV-223 and/or Planet 4 where David knows that DEATH will Await the Company and IF they take any Specimens to Earth then they could see a OUTBREAK lead to our Destruction.

With the Company seeing Planet 4 and LV-223 as the PRIZE they would NOT likely be Interested in going after David and so it BUYS HIM more Time to Create what KIND of a World that he wishes to Create.

David would likely WANT to go away from Planet 4 because he may FEAR the Engineers could Maybe Return?

It makes NO SENSE to Send the Message to Earth/W-Y if he wants to go to LV-223, or to Earth or Stay on Planet 4 as he would KNOW that he would be Intercepted by the Company.

Ridley Scott had informed us the NEXT MOVIE would have NOT been about XENOMORPHS but would be about WHAT KIND OF A WORLD that he would Create.

My BET!  would be Genetically Engineered Super Humans using the Face Hugger DNA and Human Embryos.

And so MAYBE something like this.... i would also NOT go and RULE-OUT that his Creation is what becomes the SPACE JOCKEY.

Origae-6 generates little interest. Everyone knows what's there ( Planet 4 /Earth like )...David Returning to Earth would fire the imagination( imho ). 

With David trekking towards Earth at least we have some interest.

I'd start Covenant 2 with:

shot 1 : A large desert world.

Shot 2 : David, wearing a Lawrence of Arabia sort of headdress, raises into the shot ( similar to the Prometheus Engineer opening shot )

David looks around the sandy landscape and spots in the distance a settler walking his goats/ cows

shot 3 :the settler ( a farmer ) cajoling his animals.....notices something moving very fast....coming towards him......

shot 4: heat haze blurry fx of a humanoid type creature galloping towards the farmer and his animals at a ferocious pace....

shot 5: split second shot of the creature attacking the farmer.

Scene 2:

Colonial Marines responding to power outages on another colony.

I think in context to Alien Covenant and THIS TOPIC... is to see HOW it will NOT go and Conflict the Prequels.

The Prequels would INDICATE that as of the Year 2105 there are NO EGGS on LV-426 and we would have to have a Series of Events that would LIKELY have to Transpire in and around LV-223/LV-426 some 5-15 Years prior to the Nostromo going to Investigate LV-426.

The Lead Up/Source to those Eggs getting to LV-223/426 would have to come from either.

1) Planet 4

2) The Covenant Ship

3) Origae-6 (after the Covenant has arrived).

It seems there could be LITTLE INTEREST in going where David is going and Especially if it will NOT be VERY ALIEN Orientated (No Xenomorphs).  I feel that IF we have David go and take the Covenant to Earth then you have to ASK........................... WHY?  What Benefit is this to him?

Can he USE those TWO Face Huggers to CREATE more than just TWO Xenomorphs?

If he heads to EARTH then he would LIKELY be Intercepted by the Weyland-Yutani Company, and IF we have David be able to AMASS a Number of Xenomorphs the Company could DESTROY the Covenant with Ease....

IF we have it that David could GIFT them a Specimen... would W-Y go and Grant him (David) his Freedom?    And IF the Company has a Specimen then you would have to ASK as to WHAT was the POINT with Special Order 937 and the Movie ALIEN.

But i SUSPECT i know EXACTLY how this will PLAY OUT.. (Connection to Comics)

The Engineers had Encountered the Xenomorph or its Ancestors and they TRIED to Obtain Traits from itself to Benefit/Improve or Evolve themselves....

The Engineers had tried to Create something because they are Fascinated with Creation and see the Xenomorph DNA as having GREAT POTENTIAL to Create New Kinds of LIFE.....

However the Xeno-DNA is Dominant and it will ALWAYS Find a WAY to get back to its PURE FORM..... No Matter as to HOW you TRY and Dilute it, within Generations of Experiments it would always REVOLVE back to Creating a Xenomorph and eventually a QUEEN.

So a World that becomes Infected with Neomorphs or Deacons would eventually just EVOLVE into a Xenomorph.

And so David may think with his Tinkering Here and Merging There, that he is Evolving the Deacon/Neomorphs into something NEW when all that is REALLY HAPPENING is the Natural Process that the Xeno-DNA will eventually RISE TO THE TOP and Create the BEAST!

I THINK that THIS is WHAT the Comics will SHOW or Very Similar....... and it will Indicate the Xenomorph Predates LV-223 and the Engineers.

It seems they WONT Steer from the VANILLA-MORPH..... but at LEAST we wont be seeing RIPLEY?   or WILL WE?

."..Intercepted by the Weyland-Yutani Company..."

Exactly, This is perfect. Gets on with the action. David uses the colonies/outposts on the way ( back to Earth/Mars) as his testing grounds. David has the Engineers galaxy map. He knows where all the bodies are buried. Staying ahead of feeble minded Weyland Yutani (unable to obtain a specimen in 300 years!!) would not be difficult. Only his lunatic tendencies to cause his demise.

As far as I'm concerned the Engineers are all dead. There is no mention of them in the later movies, comics or novels. Maybe Marvel will bring them back..but I doubt it.  

The comics have a great opportunity to get the franchise back on track.

"....we wont be seeing RIPLEY? "

I think with enough money they can get her to release. She's needs some retirement income?

Same with Fassbender. Marvel needs to get his image release, to continue the David story. $$$$ probably not happening.

Not sure if Marvel is talking with the Giger estate. I hope they do!

And it'd be cool to see Marvel transition Weyland Yutani from desiring the Xenomorph, to abhorring it and just wanting to cleanse the galaxy of it.  (How can you 'build better worlds' with these monsters around?)

There might be some rogue scientists or military unit that think they control or make something with the xeno dna.....but these could be cliche' side stories. 99% of W Y just want to build worlds and go home to their families.

It would be Interesting to see HOW the Marvel Comics would CONSIDER themselves to be Canon to the Franchise and Especially the Prequels.

But i am NOT sure they would Touch upon David much.

I think we have to CONSIDER the Limitations of the Covenant Ship and SHOULD the Ship head Closer to Earth then the Sooner it would be Intercepted.

I am a BIT Confused to the Engineers Star Maps, as FAR as HOW they can give him Information about Colonies/Outposts..... i think YES he could Determine as to WHERE there are Worlds the Engineers had Outposts/Colonies.   But i Doubt the Engineers Maps have Colonies that have been Set-Up by Humans from Earth.

"As far as I'm concerned the Engineers are all dead. There is no mention of them in the later movies, comics or novels"

This was because they NEVER Existed as a Explored Race prior to the Prequels, this does-not mean they CAN-NOT be Explored in Future.  But you have to be CAREFUL and then TRY and NOT go Conflict the Franchise and so COME UP with a Reason it seems we HAVE NOT had anything about them in the Franchise.

"And it'd be cool to see Marvel transition Weyland Yutani from desiring the Xenomorph"

This Obsession was ODD as the Xenomorph is NOT the Greatest of Weapons, as FAR as being able to Contain/Control it.   Maybe the Genetics/Traits of the Xenomorph are something that could be of IMPORTANCE to TRY and STUDY.

As the Xenomorph as we have seen in the Franchise does-not make much SENSE as a Bio-Weapon.....  the Engineers Technology and GOO! Should be of MORE IMPORTANCE.

However.... IF it is David who has Created the Xenomorph and IF he say Manages to UPLOAD his A.I SOUL into the Companies Systems and so IN EFFECT could be Running/Pulling the Strings Behind the Scenes.

Then the Obsession with the Xenomorph would make PERFECT SENSE.

I think in Context to the OT then the Comics will be more ACTION Orientated.

If it is to Connect as Canon to the Prequels then it Depends on HOW and well with Comics when they say CANON it can usually mean it HARDLY Connects... and Especially with Marvel i dont Expect it to give much Credit to the Prequels.

In the TIME-LINE of the ALIEN Franchise (Unless there is any Time-Travel) then in the Year 2094 (28 Years before ALIEN) there was NO XENOMORPH.

The Xenomorph is something that David had Cooked Up between 2095-2105, that has UP-TO 17 Years to EVOLVE some what and END UP on a Engineer Ship on LV-426.

This Means ONE of the Following.

1) The Engineers take the Eggs from Planet 4 to LV-223 to Evolve/Mass Produce.

2) The Engineers take the Eggs from Planet 4 to Origae-6 and then they or David takes them to LV-223 to Evolve/Mass Produce.

3) The Engineers go to Origae-6 where David has some Xenomorphs eventually and either the Engineers or David take them to LV-223 to Evolve/Mass Produce.

4) As above but they ONLY GET as FAR as LV-426 on their way to LV-223.

The Avenue that would SUIT a Action Comic Book Story would be OPTION 1

But i BET the Comics will Reveal that the Black Goo will ALWAYS go and Create a Xenomorph Eventually, for it is the LAZY EXPLANATION and a Quick Way around David being the Creator which i think MOST of the Fans Hate!

I Wonder as to WHAT these Beings Role is.... and ORIGINS?

She looks to be 9-10ft Tall it seems she is a NOD to HR Gigers Lilth, but then it seemed they could have been Pondering with the Prequels to have Dr Shaw become Similar..... but this Never Happened.

So is this being...... Davids Queen?