setaverde
MemberFacehuggerMar-20-2021 7:55 PMMarvel ventures into the Alien universe this Wednesday, March, 24th, 2021, with the launch of a brand new comic book series set in the world of Ridley Scott’s sci-fi horror series; here's a preview of the issues...
Gabriel Cruz gave his life to Weyland-Yutani–In the case of an alien attack he barely survived, almost literally! Recently retired, Cruz is trying to patch things up with his abandoned son with the help of his friend, a Bishop-model android, but his re-entry into civilian life is not going smoothly…and his encounters with the deadly Xenomorph are far from over.
setaverde
MemberFacehuggerMar-20-2021 8:07 PMI prefer much more an Humanoid Queen than a Bug Queen. A Sentient Xenomorph Being absolutely terrifies me, in a good way.
A Xenomorph Queen with the intelligence of Queen Taramis, from 'Conan, The Destroyer', would be amazing.
ninXeno426
MemberPraetorianMar-25-2021 6:47 PMThey're tracing neca figures smh
Nothing the God of biomechanics wouldn't let you in heaven for
setaverde
MemberFacehuggerMar-27-2021 11:31 AMMarvel Alien Issue #1 - First Impressions (And Theories)
Marvel Alien #2:
BigDave
MemberDeaconMar-30-2021 5:48 AMI am NOT a Fan of that Queen idea... i think it depends on the Context.... the Problem is the Mythos/Origins has become Messed Up and in Limbo with Alien Covenant.
That being does look like SIL from Species thats crossed with HR Gigers Lilith. Which both are his Creation.
We see that David had draw some similar things... the the Monster Designers/Artists for AC had drawn similar (some used for Davids works). So David could have Dreamed about turning Dr Shaw in to similar and maybe has Plans for Daniels....
I think such a Female Entity could work depending on the Context.... but Alien Covenant had kind of Muddied the Waters of the Mythos.
So the Introduction of such a Species could come from a kind of Evolution from the Pathogen/Xenomorph, or a Experiment.
Maybe Ignoring Alien Covenant, they could have gone with the Original Idea for the Engineers that they had LOST the ability to Procreate and they had Discovered something they had HOPPED would gain that again... but it just LEADS to a Mutant Female like SIL from Species who could then have Provided the Precursor to the Xenomorph etc.
Or you had such a Species as being Ancient and Enslaved or Created the Engineers for a Purpose and they Rebelled and Overthrown these Ancient Beings... and some Engineers latter tried to Evolve themselves to become more like their OLD MASTERS etc..
But ALAS...
A Number of Years ago i came up with a FEW ideas for a ALIEN V that would continue from AR and have it where Ripley 8 was slowly Transforming into something like WHAT we see in this COMIC...
such a Story Arc and Gradually Evolution would require LESS of a Budget/Time trying to make Miss Weaver look like she did in the late 90's. As if she soon started to Turn like Holloway was before he was Toasted then the Make-Up etc would HIDE her Age.. and she then Progresses more and more to like a SIL then the Make-Up would HIDE that we have a Ripley who looks in her 60's etc.
R.I.P Sox 01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017
setaverde
MemberFacehuggerApr-02-2021 2:01 PMIn first place, cheers BigDave, we are Alive. Second, David can create a Queen, his Queen. A Queen that reproduces in an hybrid way, half human, half Queen from aliens 1986. We want to watch the horror and feel repulse about every scene where the new queen appears. Possibly, we can watch it in the Alien fx TV series, or in the Marvel's Alien comics. I hope to watch something new in the Alien Universe very soon.
Kamoebas V.6
MemberFacehuggerApr-02-2021 2:11 PMIm with BigDave,i don't think that queen idea is good.
BigDave
MemberDeaconApr-07-2021 6:01 AM@Kamoebas V.6
I dont mind such a Queen it depends on the Context and what Role/Origin it serves, as Opposed to just giving us something because it kind of looks COOL... such as the IMAGE that setaverde had posted above. As in i would NOT be much of a Fan of that.
By Context i mean if its given some Origin Story/Background that would FIT and make sense.
For example as PART of the Engineers trying to EVOLVE themselves, as maybe a Race who Created the Engineers.
Or a Human Hybrid... for example they could have Continued with a Sequel to Alien Resurrection and have Ripley 8 go and EVOLVE to similar. Or have it where they USE some of Ripley 8's DNA in a attempt to CLONE the Successful Clone but they get something like SIL.
A Missed Opportunity could have been that Dr Shaw awakened looking Similar, she becomes Horrified but David informs her that he has Evolved her so she can Survive... and that he has Perfected her and SHE may be MAD about it.. but then he could Inform her that she can NOW go and Create Life.
I suspect David had similar Plan... but likely Dr Shaw refused and ENDED up being Killed. Who knows if he wishes to USE poor Daniels for similar or those Human Embryos.
R.I.P Sox 01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017
setaverde
MemberFacehuggerAug-30-2021 4:45 PMMarvel Alien #5 (THE ALPHA SHOWS UP):
Variant Cover of Marvel Alien #6:
Amazing!
A QUEEN THAT TURNS BEAUTY INTO HORROR.
setaverde
MemberFacehuggerAug-30-2021 5:29 PMOther production of Marvel Comics (2021):
ALIENS AFTERMATH
FOR ALIENS’ 35TH ANNIVERSARY, A RETURN TO HADLEY’S HOPE! It’s been 35 years since the tragedy of the Hadley’s Hope colony, but what happened to that ill-fated venture has been shrouded in mystery. A renegade crew of investigative journalists are heading towards the moon that Weyland-Yutani has wiped from all records, and they’ll bring back the truth even if it kills them…and what remains in that bombed out site will try to do just that. Benjamin Percy and Dave Wachter imagine a terrifying possible future for LV-426 in this celebration of the 35th Anniversary of one of the most influential science fiction films of all time!
https://www.marvel.com/comics/issue/93626/aliens_aftermath_2021_1
El riesco siempre vive.
setaverde
MemberFacehuggerAug-31-2021 7:14 PMXENOMORPHS ON EARTH
MARVEL ALIEN #7
MARVEL ALIEN #8
ANIMAL FARM
Xenotaris
MemberPraetorianSep-01-2021 6:26 AMLooks like they want to reboot the Earth War trilogy by the looks of it
BigDave
MemberDeaconSep-01-2021 4:38 PMSome Interesting ART....
Its ok to give Alternative Canon/Stories.... just HOPE that the TV Series or any Future Movies are NOT too much like these.
Xenomorph Chickens?
Nah Give me Prometheus/AC Black Goo infected KFC Nuggets!
R.I.P Sox 01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017
setaverde
MemberFacehuggerSep-03-2021 8:24 PMSCREEN RANT
Alien Just Revealed the True Cosmic Purpose of the Xenomorphs
Marvel continues to expand the mythos of the Alien franchise and now it has been revealed the Xenomorphs serve a larger, cosmic role.
BY SHAUN CORLEY
PUBLISHED 6 DAYS AGO
Warning: contains spoilers for Alien #6!
While Xenomorphs are regarded as ruthless killing machines throughout the galaxy, Marvel's Alien comic has revealed a deeper, more cosmic role for the creatures. In Alien #6, on sale now in print and digital, Gabriel Cruz learns the truth about his visions of 'the Woman in the Dark,' and it leads to a huge revelation about the Xenomorphs.
Earlier this year, Marvel launched a brand-new line of comics based on the Alien films. These comics have expanded the mythos, introducing the only person to ever survive being implanted with a Xenomorph embryo: Gabriel Cruz. While the embryo was inside of him, he had a vision of a horrifying figure he called 'the Woman in the Dark.' Years later, Cruz’s only son, Danny, leads a raid on a Weyland-Yutani facility in Earth orbit. Cruz is sent to the station to bring his son home, accompanied by a Bishop-model android. Cruz learns that the corporation was experimenting on captured Xenomorphs, hoping to weaponize them. Naturally, the Xenomorphs break free and wreak havoc on the station, and Cruz must escape the outbreak. While on the station, Cruz learns more about his vision from years earlier, and it leads to a stunning revelation about the Xenomorphs and their role in the universe.
Written by Phillip Kennedy Johnson, with art by Salvador Larroca, colors by GURU-eFX and letters by Clayton Cowles, the issue sees Cruz, Bishop and Danny’s girlfriend Iris try to escape the facility. Bishop approaches Iris, who grabs a gun and opens fire on him. Bishop seems to kill her, shocking Gabriel, as Bishop models are not permitted to kill. It is revealed that Iris is a rogue synth of unknown origin. She says that, thanks to Danny, Earth will become a "post-organic Utopia." Just as Cruz goes to finish her off, she tells him she has information about his visions. He presses her, and she reveals that humans were not the first organics to attempt to leave their solar system; when organics become "arrogant enough" for space-travel, they find "Prometheus' cleansing fire" waiting. Each species tries to first harness the fire, and then use it to augment themselves. Iris tells Gabriel that the Woman in the Dark is the unavoidable result of his species attempting to harness the powers of the Xenomorph.
Iris' beliefs about the Woman in the Dark aside, the revelation that the Xenomorphs are the "cleansing fire" of the universe is a huge one, hinting that the creatures have a much larger role in the cosmic scheme. This was a theme of 2012’s Prometheus, a prequel to the original Alien film, and this story serves as a callback to that movie. But while Xenomorphs have long served as a metaphor for human overreach and carelessness, their role in the fall of multiple spacefaring civilizations makes it clear that they're not just a hurdle for humanity, but a galactic test for any sufficiently advanced civilization.
The Alien comic just turned the Xenomorphs into the answer to the Fermi Paradox, explaining why organic species don't survive past leaving their home solar systems. This gives the Xenomorphs a cosmic role as a deadly test humanity is likely to fail like many civilizations before it - one that, should the human species fail, will remain to act as the extinction event for whatever new alien race happens across them next. Marvel continues their expansion of the Alien series with the revelation that the Xenomorphs serve a much higher purpose in the universe than originally thought - an idea that is sure to be expanded on as the comics continue.
Xenotaris
MemberPraetorianSep-04-2021 12:02 AMI prefer the xenomorphs being bioweapons for an ancient war between the Engineers and whatever their enemy or enemies were
MonsterZero
MemberXenomorphSep-04-2021 2:12 PM"xenomorphs being bioweapons"
100 percent agree.
"....sufficiently advanced civilization..."
Xenomorphs are hardly a threat to even 20th century humans....(Maybe unarmed ones).
Nukes, shotguns, logic traps would make short work of xenomorphs.
22nd, 23rd century tech!? forget about it.
Marvel is gonna have to step up their game.
setaverde
MemberFacehuggerSep-05-2021 12:10 PMXenomorphs are the bioweapons of the Universe. They are used to Control the plagues born on planets and that spread across the galaxies, like US, humans. The Engineers are the Gardeners of the Universe, with the mission of wipe out the nasty Weeds, maintaining the order and the natural balance, as well, containing and stopping chaos.
Like US, Engineers had faced in the past an extinction event based on Xenomorph creation technology, Impossible to harness to their Will.
Every species, or subspecies, can face her own demise, because, the bigger and stronger they get, the bigger and stronger is the opponent.
Remember that every creation tends to destroy his creator.
MonsterZero
MemberXenomorphSep-05-2021 5:57 PM300 years of xenomorph attacks and maybe as little as 100 humans have died?
To produce a xeno, you have to stick your head into the opening of an egg. It's just to tedious.
The spores from Alien:Covenant or black goo are great ideas and I would run with them.
If Covid 19 was neomorph spore based...then we'd get some action! Earth would soon become the planet of the xeno. Captain trips like.
Earth dealing with a billion neomorphs would be something I'd read.
setaverde
MemberFacehuggerSep-05-2021 6:22 PMI agree and i think, one way or the other (Marvel Alien Comics or Alien FX TV Series), that is what we are going to see. An horde of millions (billions) of Xenomorphs/Neomorphs commanded by something with the purpose of extinguish entire engineer subspecies spreaded across galaxies.
The nemeses of the engineers were their own creations and humans, as an engineers subspecies, have the same fate.
Playing God is synonym of extinction.
PS: there are only subcreations of something that already exists.
https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/movies/a37377867/prometheus-movie-defense-essay/
https://screenrant.com/ways-alien-covenant-good-prequel-movie/
BigDave
MemberDeaconSep-06-2021 4:59 AMI Consider Comics as Alternative Cannon...... i will be doing more so with MARVELS work. Mainly they would CONFLICT the Last Alien Movie (AC).
The Ideas could have WORKED for me.... IF say Alien Covenant had NEVER been Made.
"If Covid 19 was neomorph spore based..."
Well this would have been ME by NOW then ;)
R.I.P Sox 01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017
setaverde
MemberFacehuggerSep-06-2021 11:23 AMHello, @BigDave. I think the Writer of Marvel Alien Comics, Phillip Kennedy Johnson, wants it to BE part of the cannon, like the movies. He loves the prequels and you can hear it why in this podcast, witch i leave you the link below.
For instance, before these Marvel Alien Comics, they ONLY consider three Alien Comics worthy of being movies:
-Aliens: Salvation
-Alien: Labyrinth
-Alien: Dead Orbit
These are three amazing Comics, That easily could be the scripts of Alien movies.
Here's the resume of the podcast episode:
The first six issues of Phillip Kennedy Johnson's run on Marvel's Alien are officially out! Join Patrick and Christian as they chat with Phillip about Gabriel Cruz, the Alpha, that Giger-esque women/alien hybrid, liberation-minded synthetics, "cleansing fire," and so much more.
Phillip also gives our listeners a first look at where the comic is going next, including some very exciting news about a new protagonist, a new setting, and some new nightmares.
setaverde
MemberFacehuggerSep-07-2021 1:29 PMAlien covenant has great moments:
The annihilation of the Engineers by David
The Neomorph cycle
The Neomorph
The despise felt by David when he acknowledges the programmed boundaries in Walter, a new android model.
The Neomorph queen Laid down on a table of David's lab.
The Facehugger egg
The facehugger
The protomorph
David regurgitating facehugger embryos, V - The Final Battle style
BigDave
MemberDeaconSep-08-2021 7:35 AMI think a Problem we have NOW is that with the Revelations of Alien Covenant, in that it seems that PRIOR to the Year 2094 there are NO EGGS, not on LV-426 and likely NO Derelict Either.
The Origins of the Vanilla-Morph if you would is Indicated as being from Davids Experiments on Planet 4 at some Point 18-28 Years Prior to the events of ALIEN.
"explaining why organic species don't survive past leaving their home solar systems"
Seeing the Comic shows the Mural from Prometheus, it depends on HOW they are going to go about this, as SOME do think this Shows the Xenomorph, but its Actually to show the Deacon, and by that as Indicating that the ONE we saw that came from Dr Shaw is NOT the First One the Engineers have Interacted with.
Some had Speculated that the STAR MAPS were Placed as a TRAP.... it would be maybe a IDEAL WAY to Deal with the Threat of having your Creations become Space Fairing.... if you LEAVE them Clues to LV-223 then they MAY go and Explore this Place First... thinking its a INVITATION..
Then they would either Become Infected with the Horrors or take them back to their Planet to Study and then see this BECOME their Undoing!
I think that THIS is NOT the Best Way to Deal with us..... but then my Interpretations of the Prequels is Different to say like the Fire and Stone Comics.
It seemed to me that the Xenomorph and the Like are NOT a Main Focus or Agenda for the Engineers..............the Horrors of LV-223 being some UPSET Engineers Sub-Creation, wanting to Create just as we see David does on Planet 4.
I assume these Comics will take the Fire and Stone Stance... and show the LV-223 Engineers and well make their Emphasis/Agenda on the Xenomorphs.
R.I.P Sox 01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017
setaverde
MemberFacehuggerSep-08-2021 11:52 AMIn "David's Lab - Last Signs of Life" Video, we can assume that the company could have recovered Facehugger eggs, Dead facehuggers, Facehugged company man on planet four and, therefore, we can thing they have the protomorph ready to BE evolved.
Here's the link of "David's Lab - Last Signs of Life" video:
Since Prometheus, we know that exist on LV-223 lots of Engineers spaceships, canisters of black goo and even a Deacon.
Joining these two findings, we can have a possible LV-426 scenario.
Prometheus Species Origin:
BigDave
MemberDeaconSep-09-2021 7:11 AMThat Poster of the Effects of the Goo is Flawed though ;)
But who knows what the STUFF is NOW as with AC it became a McGuffin for sure.
The Last Signs of Life Video is something that we really cant take 100% as Canon. It was just a BIT of Fun....
The Advent Video is Considered as Canon though.
In Response to that Message from David you would think the Company would SEND OUT some Ships to Planet 4 and LV-223. A lot of people seemed to be UNHAPPY with David in Regards to his ROLE in the Prequels.
But you can get to LV-426 without even going where David is going.... The Company will likely go to Planet 4 and the Engineers will Return to Planet 4, and so they could see those Eggs and take a Interest in them and the Engineers then EVOLVE the Eggs to what we get in ALIEN and the Ideal Place they would TAKE the Eggs to Experiment would be LV-223.
So you dont need to go to Origae-6 and after David... because in doing so then David will arrive like in the Year 2112 and so 10 Years before ALIEN and so IF the Engineers etc arrive at Origae-6 after David gets there, then your looking at a 5-10 Year Likelihood of the Space Jockey Event prior to ALIEN.
The Company will get the Advent Message in the Year 2107 then for them to get to Planet 4 and LV-223 would take them like 10-12 Months (Depends on HOW FAST their Ships are... but this Based Off the Covenant/Nostromo Speeds.
And so a Year 2108 could be about the Right Time for when the Company would have Ships Turn Up at LV-223 and Planet 4.... and while they are in the Process of that..... The Engineers could then Turn Up.
R.I.P Sox 01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017
setaverde
MemberFacehuggerSep-09-2021 7:06 PM"That Poster of the Effects of the Goo is Flawed though"
Yes, i know. For instance, golden goo is different of black goo. One means life and other means death, but the origin of both could be the same.
For me, The Last Signs of Life Video is a good possibility. David could have left some of his creations on planet four.
With the Company going to LV-223 and Planet four, anyone, human, android or engineer, could be the Juggernaut's Derelict on LV-426.
With what we know from the movies, i think it's logic that the Engineer Spaceship, Kown by Derelict, traveled from LV-223 to LV-426.
THe other possibility, perhaps the easiest one, is to consider Origae 6 as LV-426.
Last attempt: The engineers go to Origae 6. An Engineer Spaceship travels to LV-426, carrying David's Ovomorphs.
MonsterZero
MemberXenomorphSep-10-2021 4:08 PMWhy Origae 6 though?!
If David had told MUTHUR to return to Earth...IMHO this would have generated far more interest in AC 2.
End A:C with the Covenant making a slow turn.
Speculation would have been off the charts.
setaverde
MemberFacehuggerSep-11-2021 5:59 PMThat would be amazing. Imagine David telling:
"Mother, set a course to...Earth!"
And then, he goes to play with Daniels mind!
setaverde
MemberFacehuggerSep-11-2021 6:15 PM@BigDave, Aliens: Fire and Stone is very good. I watched it here:
Like Prometheus: Fire and Stone
First Issue (look for it in "Mix – OneTake")
Second Issue
Third Issue
Fourth Issue