For your consideration.

The ORIGINAL trailer.

https://youtu.be/LjLamj-b0I8

The walls of the 'egg cave' are identical to those in the chamber above (a result of having re-used the set).  So either it's part of the Derelict or an Engineer complex like the pyramids on LV-223.  (And Ridley talks about the bomber thing on one of his commentaries from memory).

Either way, the similarity to an Alien hive is only very superficial.

Good idea. Make it a community in a large space station, claustrophobic, with little need for CGI.

The original is much better. It doesn't retell the movie and shows just enough to make viewers interested.

Roger G

About a delay with getting another Alien movie. I honestly would rather have them abandoning the prequels instead of getting another movie about David. Sure they could do another one if they have more about the Engineers, well-made human characters in the script and on-screen, not about the android, and make sure that David didn't create the Xeno. The last one is probably the most important thing right now. It’s sad that it has now become about damage-control.

DK

“You don't have to bitch about it too because it doesn't check all of your personal fan boxes.”

The thing is, people should be allowed to say if they don’t like a TV-show, movie, or whatever it is, right? My point is, if someone makes for example a mug especially if they go commercial about it then they should also be able to handle that people might dislike it. As soon as you get outside you’ll hear different opinions and if you can’t stand it then maybe stay away? I don’t say that he is dumb or bad, but he should be prepared and accept that everyone will not agree with him.

“Should someone write a story to appease the masses and cash in or a story he/she wants to tell? All out or a compromise?”

No, but be prepared for the fact that not everyone will enjoy it.

BWW

You are right about AR, I think that is one of the things that it did wrong. Actually they mentioned exactly that at a podcast when they said that what they disliked about it. One of the hosts put the comedy-thing as something that he disliked. What's hilarious about that episode is that no one put anybody down for disliking it, that got me laughing. :D

Daniels as being an unfocused character, I can see that. Maybe that was why I didn't really understood her character? The problem is that I got to understand what the character is about from the start and if they will change then I got to see what that change is. With Daniels I saw traits but she was too vague. I want characters where I can understand their personality preferably some minutes into the movie from when they are introduced. After that the character might change (Darth Vader is a perfect example of that) but done in a way so I understand their personality, their motivation, for example. If they fail with that in the writing and/or execution then I won't like it.

The only movie by Rian Johnson that I've watched is The Last Jedi. I got frustrated that they killed Luke, that’s my biggest problem with it but it's enough for me to not watch it again. Unfortunately there were other things in it that I didn’t like but that was my biggest problem. Not sure if I will watch any of his other movies, it was a bad introduction to him as a writer since he wrote it (I looked it up). Doing things in a different way hasn't got to be bad, it depends on what you do and how you do it.

James Cameron, I’ve watched Avatar, Terminator 1 & 2, Aliens, and Titanic. Those movies are good for entertainment, but they’re not bad.
I like the idea of just seeing shadows, that would’ve been creepy. It could be like you see something but you’re not sure what. That could be creepy and fit an alien-movie, they should maybe try it.

Other kind of biospheres could be interesting, maybe there are environments where the alien are better suited for? They are very hard to kill (acid for blood and what not). What if there are places where they get even deadlier? I don’t think that it’s simply to just do that, it would be like making an action-movie and improve it by adding more guns, you need more than that but at least it’s an idea among other things that you could play around with.

You mention carbon-based life, carbon is on earth and is therefore familiar. The trick I think is to take something in nature (if we talk sci-fi) and twist it enough so it feels unfamiliar and therefore scary. My point is that it’s possible but it takes some work.

“The Alien, is so much More. ;)”

Fair enough, the thing is to make it work.

It's an interesting idea, although I doubt it.

“it seems that they are not part of the ship but a structure underground.”

Scott has at different times said that the ship (1979) was like a bombing-plane with the eggs being like bio-bombs. You can try to find interviews where he mentions that. This probably means that the derelict was big and the place where they found them was like a storage of some sort.

It's possible to question if the scale makes sense but that was the point of that room as far as I know. At least with how it looks it makes it more mysterious. Kane went down there and said that it was a cave of some sort but he probably compared it to what he had seen before, he could be mistaken. Keeping that comment in mind I find it reasonable that some people might not think that it is a part of the ship but I don't think that it is.

Unfortunately it can mean more about David if Scott is involved. I’m not very excited about this at all, have him as a producer, not director. Not sure if the information on IMDB is true but it worries me that he might make it about David again and therefore mess it up.

Having said this it's in itself fascinating to see how productive he is at that age. I can respect him for still doing this even though I’m not a fan of the alien-prequels in general.

Interesting about the new trailer, thanks for the post. Sorry that I can’t answer your question but I can add some perspective on it.

Unfortunately it was cut too fast, you didn’t get to see a scene that lasted more than maybe two seconds? Compare it to this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQ5lPt9edzQ

That is the original trailer, you see that they spend much more time on individual shots. I must say that I find that way to be better, the modern thing feels rushed.

Rushing things was one of the complaint that a host on the Perfect Organism podcast had about Scott. I can see what he means when I see that example of the updated trailer. They simply bombard us with images. Not to say that we need to spend 30 second on one shot but slow it down a little.

Agree with LETO on this.....the Sulaco was well designed for its time and still looks good to this day in my opinion....as well as the large Atmospheric Processing planet....."it's a rock no indigenous life." So no engineers there...and if they are there the place was nuked.

I like many of the designs in Aliens....the weapons....the lab, the inside of the ship....the sleep chambers, the WY complex......that was a cool movie overall for its time.....would challenge anyone to do better. Say what you will about Cameron but he gets stuff done! The Alien Queen Priceless special effects....but hey if anyone wants to throw it all under the bus I really could care less....its not going to stop me from enjoying it one bit.....

Anyone seen or heard from BIG DAVE!.....BigDave where are you old Chap!!!!!!

wtf?! Hadley's Hope has one of the best & most recognizable sci-fi designs.

Same designer, so I guess he ripped off himself.

That is a great observation, but I agree with Leto. If it were the case that it was Engineer technology, that brings up the question of why the people there never mentioned it (I am referring to the Director's Cut).

I have always think that the lower parts of the processor with strange shapes were the work of xenomorphs, i.e. their socket.

Although the idea is intriguing, it is not.

The reactor was covered in xenomorph slime.

The atmospheric processor was designed by Ron Cobb for Aliens (1986)

Based on the concept art, and Ron Cobb's approach to such things, it's likely it was always intended to be Human technology

You mean The Last Duel, The Duelists was his debut film.

Information on IMDB is not official, it is taken from media articles and rumors, so we have to wait for an officisl announcement. Until now we have nothing.

BlackAnt

Yeah, you nailed it alright. 

And you also pointed out everything I WON'T be doing in the ALIEN: Manticore sequel...

Because The Audience Deserves BETTER.

That's how I see it. That's what I run with.

In Space, There Is No Place To Run.

RBW is an example of how NOT to do sci-fi.

I respectfully disagree. Sci-fi has many avenues of approach. 

There are types of sci-fi I don't like, but others may love that stuff that I hate- and we can argue that.

If we are free thinkers, we can debate- but I don't agree with the notion of saying how sci-fi should be done. As much as some things in sci-fi that I hate, I understand they are enjoyed by others.

It is understandable that comes from a writer's POV, but I am coming from a fan POV.

I'll stand happily with RS.

However, despite RS's involvement with RBW, I can't watch it. He might have directed two eps, but the rest is a trainwreck out of his hands.

Then there's the guy behind it all with NO plan...

I stand with RS...the other guys involved with RBW, they're riding his coat-tails, and that's just disgusting....they're parasites, they're just using his name.

RBW season 1 is complete. Two weeks from now I'll be watchig it.

You can go ahead with HBO Max free trial if still available.

I have still only seen the first RBW episode and am holding out for the series to be complete. I know there are haters and lovers- I don't care. I want to see it.

It's sort of like music. You might dislike a song or two but you love the album as a whole.

It seems most of the RBW haters are the haters of the prequels and I suspect the finger is for them too.

I believe Ridley is deeply frustrated he could not go ahead with his plans for Prometheus 2 and Alien Covenant 2.

dk fully agree with your post above. I could not have said it better.

If there are films that I know are not for my taste, I simply don't watch them.

Go Ridley!

I try to imagine things from Scott's POV. With his long career, there have always been fans and haters- but enough fans to keep him going. At his age, I can sort of relate and can agree with his big middle finger to haters. If you don't like his work, don't watch it. You don't have to bitch about it too because it doesn't check all of your personal fan boxes.

I can hate all over the prequels although I like them in general for what they are, but there are fans who think they are great. 

Should someone write a story to appease the masses and cash in or a story he/she wants to tell? All out or a compromise?

Go Ridley! I might not be on board with everything but I will check it out. I know it's not all about me.

I wonder if he is a closet Overkill fan:

OHHHHHH Roger G, me thinks you have drank the coooool aid that is RS! 

You said this is the best thing RS has done in a long time???????? Well hummmm a good part of the planet disagrees that is all I'm saying....I could be wrong too.

If we are looking at putting the BigChap in a coffin then we might as well look at how we got here.....

Alien.....space truckers get woke up by evil computer and get chased around ship unit the last one is left and out the air lock he goessssssssssssss....I really really really like a nice little bow wrapping it all up in the end....nice and neat.

Aliens.......this guy has more friends to help him chase the landing party/crew all over the place here and there and then the twist. One crew member goes back for the little brat, I would have had Bishop making cocktails on the Sulaco after dealing with just one of those things 40 years ago!!! Vaya Con Dios BABY GURLl! BUT THAT IS JUST HOW I ROLL! LOL ;) 

I would have just literally gone back up to the safety of the marine ship and got drunk, for a very long time, after all that nonsense and.....

have Bishop give me a nice pedicure - a GURL can dream right LOL!!!!

Anyway our protagonist goes back down gets BABYGURL and flushes MOMMA ALIEN OUT THE AIR LOCK AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!

2nd Time PEOPLE! Just sayin it's a little sus now!

Alien 3....our protagonist gets chased around and around, and around, again because hey why not someone lets it out!!!!
Ok then she bites the bullet in a bigOLLLL swan dive! Love a nice neat little bow at the end to wrap it all up.

Alien 4 - @#$%!^@%#^@&@#$*@#$# This sure is some confusing @sssss shit now! LOOOOOL

SHE IS THE ALIEN NOW AND GETS CHASED AROUND THE SHIP UNTIL THEY SQUEEZ A Bigger CHAP OUT AGAIN!!!

AGAIN WHATS WITH THE DECOMPRESSION....YOU WOULD THINK THESE ALIENS KNOW ALL ABOUT THE DECOMPRESSION MOVE!!! NO! NO THEY DON'T BUT THE AUDIENCE DOES~! SMALL PROFFESSIONAL SCREEM! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! All better now. 

Prometheus - crew looks around too much as usual, cause hey why not! gotta have a look around! and then one is left and gets chased by the BIG BLUE lookin guy....bet his tee off on the 9th is spectacular with big-0LLLL guns like that!

Alien Covenant.....this is a more traditional lets look around......awe geee because we are here anyway and then they too all get hit over the head one by one....hint, even the evil robot is in on it too, and then two of them get chased....GET READY FOR IT....BRACE YOURSELFS....THOSE TWO GET CHASED TO AN AIRLOCK WHERE THE DECOMPRESSION STARTS AND THIS BIGCHAP GETS SUCKED INTO THE VACUM OF SPACE AGAIN!!!!!!!.....and much to our amazement, the nice woke Gen Y generation....yep she fakes him out this super predator right out just at the right MOMENT because its GEN Y and they got it like that - they faked us right out of our cash again at the box office too! Then she goes and has a drink and some pancakes.....before bedtime....DOUBLE FAKE....poor Gen Y you almost had us think THAT WOKE BS was believable.

I have a theory why this is happening! I call it the "Oh Shit I found a spot on my favorite clothing, have to try and wash that shit out!" Plot routine.

OBTW the alien-predictor moves are all the same too.

Everyone gets chased one by one and then there is a battle - interestingly no WOOOOOSH at the end though - RED PILL OR BLUE PILL? The Matrix is real people!

So that is how we got here flushing the BigChap down the box office toilet because we did not use the right stain remover....if it says on the tube will remove Alien, and when to push the right button to decompress the area....you most likely have one of those cheap department store Alien removers! Do not buy that BS! This is for you too Gen Y, can see you shaking your heads out there saying..."We don't fall for stuff like that - too woke for that BS!!! AHHHHH MORE BS FROM GEN-Y!!!"

There are other better stain removers....or if you are privileged!!!! you just go buy a NEW SHIP and NEW CREW and you keep the disco ball going round and round.....but most of us are on that budget so its some cheap, really cheap cheap cheap - stain remover.....or a trip to try and find some even cheaper stain remover that also will not work.

PLOT ANOMALY ALERT!!!! BRACE YOURSELVES!!!!!

A noteworthy departure from the norm because hey why not if you have the money and Privilege?"

Privileged Weyland does just that in AC. He buys a new ship new crew sleeps all the way there and sleeps all the way up until they walk right up to the BigChaps handler and then CONK like Donky Kong over the head no more privilege.....Gen Y secretly likes this part but does not know why....CLUELESS!!! But somehow Priceless for those older and wise enough to know better.

WooooooooooooooooSSSSSHHHHHHH! Sorry BigOLLChap! 

BONUS!!! GIVE THIS GUY SOME LOVE AND SUPPORT!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXSH05wqraU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQP3TqjftVM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D38MyN5GkXM

"Now that you’ve watched the first season of the HBO Max series Raised by Wolves, I’m sure you have a lot of questions. Like what exactly is Mother’s baby? Why did everyone want to go to Kepler-22b? What is up with that pentagonal temple? Why hasn’t Campion been affected by the radioactive food? What exactly are the visions everyone keeps seeing? What’s going on with the creatures that are devolving? How did the ship survive going through the middle of the planet? And that’s just the tip of the iceberg. The fact is, Raised by Wolves Season 1 was loaded with WTF moments and tons of intriguing mysteries, which made for a thrilling ride.

Image via HBO Max

Thankfully, shortly after watching the finale, I landed an extended interview with creator and showrunner  Aaron Guzikowski where no question was off limits."

https://collider.com/raised-by-wolves-spoiler-interview-aaron-guzikowski-season-1-finale-season-2/

Thoughts_Dreams

Everything you just said...yeah, you and I have a shared perspective on things, that's for sure!!

RBW is getting as much mileage as it can off RS's name, as it has NO merits of it's own to stand on.

dk

Ty for the spam reporting, I was kind of out of it then, wasn't sure what I was looking at.

BlackAnt

I agree with you and Thank-You for the URL checker link! I keep my system's security at near-maximum, and that allows me some pretty decent safety. 

BUT, you are RIGHT about playing it safe online!!

BTW LOVED the gifs!! :D

SuperAlien

Leto

BlackAnt

Having a 'spam report' button would be really handy!

As for BigDave, I am getting worried, and hope with all my heart and soul he's just away for a bit doing something he enjoys. I try not to think about other possibilities...

Thoughts_Dreams

ALIEN: Resurrection was a pure popcorn-movie-moneygrab, plain and simple. It had some fun and cool visuals, I enjoyed some of the characters and dialogue...but yeah, it was a pretty Obvious moneygrab.

Giler & Hill feed each other's egos, and seriously they are driven expressly by such. They EXPECT everyone to see things the way they see them and think like they do. Problem is, they're formula-driven dinosaurs and the formula they rely on has been obsolete for decades. Think of them as Prototypes of Rian Johnson and James Cameron...no real talent or creativity, they rip off ideas, mutilate them, then slap their name on the results and demand tribute from the audience to their 'genius'.

...and that's the NICEST things I can about those people.

I've seen other interviews with Dianne O'Bannon, and love her perspective on him!

The problem with Daniels is they tried to remake Ripley but with softer edges and a 'naivete' added in...they ended up with a decent but unfocused character. She did her best with that character I have to give the actress her due and respect on that!

Having the creature aboard the ship after the battle aboard the cargo lifter was actually anti-climactic. Instead, they should have had more time working their way out of the structure, lots of shadows, some only seem to move...others do, and the protomorph stalking them...and some close-calls.

**They stop for a break, catch their breath, and one is leaning against a pillar with deep shadows on either side of it...that LOOK like it's solid wall...then after they push onward, from that shadow and JUST missing the character who leaned against the pillar that character ALMOST gets grabbed by a hand...ALMOST touches him/her.**

ORIGIN is damn tricky, and while it does give some insight and backstory...it also really emphasizes just how genuinely ALIEN the creature is, and the raw power of Nature itself.

It actually makes The Alien that much more frightening, really.

I will say this; The world that gave rise to the Alien was a world entirely outside Human scientific experience or even the most extreme and fanciful hypotheses/theories.
The world gave rise to Carbon and Silicon based life, which in time hybridized in many--but NOT all cases--giving rise to a planetary biosphere and ecologies that are...very challengingly ALIEN.
It has taken enormous work to put a foundation under it...going all the way back to the origin-point of life on that world...and it didn't involve the Engineers whatsoever, I assure you.

The above isn't a 'spoiler'...consider it a Primer. :D

The David-Protomorph...it's a big, mindless, rampaging animal with less smarts than a broken parking meter.

The Alien, is so much More. ;)

BWW:

Maybe it's a lot about marketing? Scott has been involved with a lot so he is a big name that can draw attention, also how they make it appear seems to be important. A lot of times the one with the biggest voice hasn't got a lot to say, it's just that it screams loud enough to be heard. Fan-creations can be better than official things that's why I look around for what fans do (podcasts, pictures, and so on) because they have the interest, to me that counts. Do a quick search for fan-art of the Space-jockey and you'll be surprised, it's impressive.

I'm a broken record on this but if the characters don't work then the TV-show or whatever doesn't work, for me at least. 1. Story 2. Characters 3. Themes, in that order