At dk and BWW,

OOOOOOOHHHHH FOR F! Sake did you both click on that link?

If you did there could be anything loaded on your computers now....you all know we have to be absolutely careful opening any links.....the spammmers could put ransom wear on your computer and destroy your all your files....key loggers, viruses, trojans, they could be using your computer as a proxy in a botnet, they could have turned your computer into one of the ghost army bots and more!!!! there is always more!!! and the rest of it.

Never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, pause taking a rest from typing never, NEVER, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never click on just any links in open forums........that is a lot of nevers, ;)

Even the best security software can’t protect you from the headaches you’ll encounter if you click an unsafe link. Unsafe links appear to be shortcuts to funny videos, shocking news stories, awesome deals, or “Like” buttons, but are really designed to steal your personal information or hijack your computer. Your friends can unknowingly pass on unsafe links in emails, Facebook posts, and instant messages. You’ll also encounter unsafe links in website ads and search results. Use these link-scanning tips to check suspicious links. All of these solutions are free, fast, and don’t require you to download anything.

These services can help you test a link if you are unsure but if the hackers are good enough they can fake these services out too.....

Website Reputation Checker:

This service helps you detect potentially malicious websites.

Check the online reputation/safety of a website.

https://www.urlvoid.com/

 Blackwinter-witch Looks like spam. Reported.

I've tried to get through a couple of eps...Husband hates RBW, can't stand it.

That's saying a lot as he's one of the most open-minded people I know.

Frankly, RBW just isn't for me. Other people might like it/hate it...I'm just finding nothing in it I can grab onto.

nathmaheshmp

I don't see anything really useful in the links, they're just general main-page types....is there a specific app you're trying to show us??

TY!!

I have a LOT of development work done regarding The Alien...where it came from, what kind of planetary biosphere could create it, how it's biology and physiology work, etc, etc. I dug deep and put in a massive amount of work to figure this critter out. 9apps cartoon hd

Thoughts_Dreams

Great post! could not have said it better. I like some of the special effects and that is about it. The show looks like a rough draft of sorts cobbled together very loosely with some rather fine special effects; but, only in specific shots. Otherwise the performances are terrible and just go in a circle chasing nonsense who dune it kind of little mysteries.

RBW is just not that interesting nor is it fun to watch.

LOL @ Black Ant! That fun as hell! :D

Anyone else?

If he will sink that low then I can say fuck you for fucking up the prequels with your android-bullshit. Raised By Wolves seems to be plagued with the same thing so that’s why I won't bother to watch it.

As far as don't getting it, maybe they do but that they don't like it. It's about personal tastes, just because he likes what he has done (which he should) doesn't mean that everyone else are required to do so. I would rather see action-stuff rather than some fingering android. That doesn't mean that an action-movie or rather a movie with much action can't be interesting. The Matrix (first movie) is an example of that.

“Two androids are sent into space with children”

Androids this and androids that, booring, add to that lame characters as far as I have read in reviews at least and you get something that I won't bother to watch.

Roger G: Interesting post but can you divide it into paragraphs? It will get easier to read that way.

DK,

These are all pieces to a larger puzzle of course.....I rewrote what I had posted previously....The continuity is clearer with some other important details raised.

IMOM is derivative, important derivative! The main purpose of that IMOM show is to demonstrate control to you and for you to covet the possession of a GOD LIKE power....we can call it AI or any name you want. Possession is the key element with which we all try to control our destinies through other entities; but what happens is other entities end up controlling us through our lust for more power. In our daily lives we control and possess objects higher quality, and interestingly enough now in this new age of illumination through so many computers we seek to  possess others vicariously by going there and projecting ourselves through the internet....the act of even coming into these chats could be understood to be a demonic act of possession as we understand what demons do demonstrably...I imply logically that the act of transcending our physical bodies to embody something else is a demonic act because we seek the control and possession of others through these other digital realms.

You believe all these people and businesses are telling you the truth when it comes to keeping your attention on the internet so will keep reading their social content, buying their products. It is all demonic possession literally. These other entities wish to control your every though implicitly so you crave their control over you...you willing are being deceived by design. Ever leave your cell phone at home?

The idea of possession - taking control of the power of heaven is the oldest sin of all - original sin. We are all constantly striving to control - persuade others through "the new digital domain" to make our lives more entertained, to be famous, and all the other demonic traps these digital domains provide so long as we are willing to sacrifice something in return for "true salvation."

Now I do not proclaim to understand true salvation...but I have faith in that exists without having to buy something...trade something for it or possess others in a way that would yield this quality.

In AC David never says or does a kind thing ever! His every move is extremely evil and sinful. Every thing he does is deceitful....I doubt if the makers of the film realized this quality about David....this is a most unusual aspect to the film...something extra-ordinary....and some would say super natural on other levels with parallels to the real world no matter how much of a work of fiction the movie is or is not.

The fact no one has ever brought this up until now is because this all meant to be hidden from all of you....those who really control you, when they possess you, remain hidden from you....and so it is with even a fictional David and his true motives in these very real movies.

Have no doubt in what I stated. You should ask yourself from which side of the gate do you see the world from and with what fruit is around you right now. 

I am not sure I approve of the brash side of RS. 

"I'd say 'Go f*ck yourself', and then I'd say, 'Go f*ck yourself' again,".

The bad boy of cinema maybe? Constructively I think RBW lacks good continuity between specific shots....and is lacking in special effects in some to the point it is just something that does not fit together in the whole of the larger production.....For example in many of the shots it looks like there are just too many things from the 20th century....Almost if you filmed a near future science fiction film and the entire landscape was filled with things from the late 1800's everywhere. When you see movies about the 1980's you do not see things from the 1700's everywhere either.

Things always change....clothes, shoes, housing, transportation, buildings....so I am not sure why he is saying that RBW is a master-piece....it is not....it has quite a bit of merit; however, there are parts of it that HBO just did not have the money to film...so you don't give an artist like this a canvas with just a couple of colors to paint with and very few brushes....RS makes quarter billion dollar productions, some of RBW looks like it was filmed by first year movie students....you all know what these low budget productions look like on youtube....there are thousands of them. They are about 5 to 10 minutes usually and you forget about the even quicker.

Not sure what he is getting on about really - there are thousands of critics who really really really appreciate great productions; however, the majority of them said the exact same thing that I just did about RBW....he should be more open to criticism and move on to bigger and better things.

Thanks for sharing Roger G!

Solid gold!

And again and again!

Love Ridley Scott!

Well, it's good to hear RS will kick his feet up with some beers again. He should just push forward. 

BlackAnt Some of you are strong! Some of you outright deceivers!

A little off track here, but it reminds me of the quote "By their fruits, ye shall know them. The world is the tree and I am the fruit.  So what does that say about the world?"

IMom, about 13 minutes long.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cABjb6VA0p8&t=226s

Roger G Rod Serling is next level stuff even though he is long gone imo. Original TZ is still among the best. That episode shows how we still haven't really changed.

"

No Such Thing as 'immaculate Conception'.

Facehuggers are rape-machines, pure and simple...there's nothing immaculate there at all."

It's a metaphor.

BWW

First my comment about your posts and now your comment in reference to to Michelle Johnston, about the consumption of thoughts gave me a moment of levity thinking there could be a monster lurking in this digital domain gorging itself off the more interesting ideas.

There was a story about big corporations some time ago feeding off of consumer data. I imagine that that same data monster could be here slowly devouring the more densely nutrient rich ideas LOOOOOL,

LMAO, here of course is what the other monster looks like and naturally it must have spawned others similar to it to feed off other internet sites.

Michelle Johnston

VERY well stated and extremely well thought-out!!

I still need to re-read it a few times...I'm having problems with comprehension--which is extremely annoying--so I am taking your post in small bites, but it's very intellectually 'Tasty'!

I'm here as this forum has the nicest, and most intelligent and well-spoken fans to be found in the ALIEN Fandom, also, the greater reach of scified allows me to interconnect easily to Blade Runner..

It's a quiet, fun place with nice, intelligent people who love ALIEN. That's why I love it here.

BlackAnt

xenofanlv426

Good ones!! :D

No can hear you wish everyone a Happy Thanksgiving!!

However, the sentiment is there, nonetheless, applicable to fellow Canadians and a pre-Thanksgiving salutation to American members!!

In space, no one can hear you meme.

In space no one knows that when it is close to HALLOWEEN, when Aliens go trick or treating, they put humans into their Halloween bags......

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

I may have missed such contributions but this is the first time I have seen a connection made between the Sars-CoV2 outbreak and Alien. 

I said some while ago that I went back and read my own work to see whether in the "all about everything" nature of the themes they had an application. I mentioned two but on reflection, there are more:-

1) The reason the story of Prometheus gets going is because of Peter Weyland's desire for more life.

The reason that mankind is seen as vulnerable as an entire community is that the Virus is fatal to the elderly who are being kept alive on an industrial scale in Aged Care Facilities, looked after poorly paid Immigrant Workers who with multiple jobs have in many locations brought the Virus into the workplace. Everyone dies in the real and imagined world.

2) Fifield the loudmouth know all cannabis smoking idiot is killed because he has no sense of direction. The Mutagen passed through his face mask.

If everyone washed their hands, hospitality had at-seat service and stayed at home when they were ill transmission would ease. Masks are meant to be worn by surgeons for 90 minutes to protect their patients. They don't work but why argue just wear them and ideally a face shield and gloves in enclosed areas?

3) Elizabeth driven by hubris goes in search of her Roman Catholic God.

In New Zealand and South Korea, cluster transmission has broken out in faith-based communities who argue with the science wishing to put their faith in God. 

4) In Part 11 Elizabeth and David discover that 'sin' is introduced into 'paradise' by tagging for control purposes.

The greatest experiment mankind has ever undertaken is under weigh with the introduction of the concept of Locking Down and tagging through apps. 

5) The denouement of part 11 is an argument between a rational approach which requires "Sacrifice." and a hubristic reinvention spurred on by confusion and delusion.

Sars-CoV 2 will play out it's not as deadly as Spanish Flu and kills between 1,2,3 times influenza. It is folly to think we need to destroy our way of lives to save a small number of people. The way forward is not a perfect solution it is the least worse one.

Elizabeth given the chance will destroy creation and remake it.

But to return to the beginning we think we are the centre of the Universe and can solve all problems we cannot we are a small footnote buffeted by disease, natural disasters and many other things. What we can bring to the dark confines of empty space is the ultimate paradox a love of one another. Love is essentially about putting others before ourselves. In my story in order to make the Origin Engineers remake their Covenant everyone intimately involved has to be sacrificed.

In the real world, we simply need to protect the elderly and comorbid and the rest have the right to either get on with their lives or not and accept that some will die its what we do.              

Clinging on to life, hubris and reordering everything is at the root of the real and imagined world.

AC FORUM is a space where you can be an hardcore fan, but it's also a space where you can be a person that just likes a good story. AC FORUM is a space of freedom, where you can share your thoughts and your ideas of almost everything, related with the Alien franchise.

I AM a loyal reader of various topics and the texts of some members, like @BigDave, were very inspiring for me to become here and there a writer. 

@dk, you are also an inspiration, because i feel goodness in your words.

harm the cat

script Immunity. :)

Except in MY realms...for the sequel, NO one has script immunity.

NO one.

....why do you think the founder and owner of Rothmahnn Biokinetics Gmbh is named...

Thaddeus

Lucifer

Rothmahnn

That name was not taken from the previous posts, I named that character over a year ago when developing the origins of my Chimerans.

Imagine him offering an apple to a 5 year old Lyllith...

In Space, you cannot hear The Alien stalking up behind you. :)

DK

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

Do not give into the dark side!!!!

Everyone knows now don't they!

BlackAnt 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ty5bXad0dZI

Dhogmeat What is interesting for at least the Quadrilogy, is that some of the religion/faith themes were there but weren't too on the nose- A3 obviously was though. They were treated in a way that viewers could dive into and get deep in the weeds while others could see it more superficially while still enjoying the movies.

dk,

Yes it is all too real! and so is the illumination of it! Why would so many go out of there way to hide so much from the masses....yes dk! YES FOR GOD SAKE YES THE DELIBERATE global mismanagement of it all those that go out of their way way to down play it.

Some of you are strong! Some of you outright deceivers!

You are so optimistic dk, I sure could do with some of that....it would be most welcome for a change.

BlackAnt 

the quarantine has been broken in all our cities and been infected with this dark Spector - this killer....it keeps taking everything from all of us slowly and silently - day by day....for me there is an evilness to it all - no where to hide - no ship to even escape to....something you cannot quite see but you know it is there lurking in the darkness waiting for you to make your mistake with it.

Wow- that is an interesting statement that directly sums up Alien. It's almost poetic. 

But we'll get through it. The killer really isn't evil- playing it down and deliberate mismanagement is.

Thank you for the love and hugs - some of my most priceless possessions.

PART ONE.

Intuition of the damned, "The devil is always in the details."

In the Alien MOVIES, the depictions of these creatures are that of "half organic and that of half machine." Which is which and what is what is indiscernible. However it is important to note humans / the living are always their prey and what they devour literally.

Demons take on many forms as do these aliens through possession. This is a very advanced alien technology not of mankind! Do not think you know what it does or even think you can attempt to say what it really is or is not - this is a depiction of an evil God....we can only judge by its actions that it makes  folly of all mankind! That and the fact that even though this is fiction there are elements of the story so demonic in nature you would have to be possessed by a demon/demons deceiving others on purpose into believing that none of this is true.....and yet there are just too many distinct parallels where these movies transcend into works of what?

These movies are about demonic possession - judge for yourselves.

"Demonic possession involves the belief that a SPIRIT or ENTITY controls a person's actions." This definition makes no attempt to say what it looks like or in what form the transformation of the flesh becomes.

Dictionary,

Demon:

"an evil spirit or devil, especially one thought to possess a person or act as a tormentor in hell."

Everything in all of these movies - the purpose of them is to torment you the viewer - no character in all of these movies has a good outcome! BEWARE NONE WHO ENTER MAKE IT TO SALVATION! Darkness triumphs in all these movies.

So from the logos, "the principle of divine reason," we see that H.R. Giger's face hugger takes "possession," of Kane and through the implantation....a most evil DEMON / THE ALIEN bursts taking with it part what remains of Kane. It is impossible for us to know what the DEMON has taken from Kane! As the audience we go along with this willingly? What are we sacrificing then for this revelation and journey?

AC, David's perfect creation, the idle hands of the devil's workshop - The ALIEN / THE DEMON'S objective is to destroy all of HUMANY - David, "ALL THE MEAT IF YOU WILL," right? 

These Demons are meant to destroy all humanity... 

 These movies are and have always been about the occult - every moment of them is about religion and every aspect and every second of every film is about what kind of faith you have or choose not to have. 

These movies posits that we are already in hell and have always been here? When and where did we cross the threshold? or are we being asked to cross in through a gate?

The gate may be a real one or logical - both shall suffice! What have we been offered?

PART TWO.

You might wonder what does Lucifer's name mean???? Be careful with this one - all of you.

Lucifer:

"the original Hebrew word means shining one, light-bearer."

Lucifer - THE BEARER OF LIGHT.

These movies are all about specific kinds of passages - GATEWAYS opening forth into different PARTS OF HELL - BEWARE - AS YOU ENTER FOR YOU MAY NEVER LEAVE.

ALIEN WAS ALWAYS ABOUT A WARNING! CORRECT - it is the very purpose for the movie. MUTHR wakes them up because of the warning, they go down to the surface because of the warning, and no one heeds the warning - ASH, a later model android after David deceives the crew because of the warning!

KANE, "COME HERE HAVE A LOOK AT THIS, WE MUST PROCEED!"

You all were meant to be here to have opened this gateway. You have all already opened this gate; but, a gate into what? You all have been deceived all of you.

Some of  you have been studying this gateway for a very long time with much admiration!

This was all meant to happen - Ripley, "MUTHR SAYS THIS IS A WARNING," 

Ash, "I MEAN BY THE TIME THEY GET THERE THEY WILL KNOW IF IT IS A WARNING OR NOT."...you are all meant to be deceived by design....it is only a movie or is it? WHAT HAVE ALL OF YOU ENTERED INTO AND FOR HOW LONG? Some of you know very well exactly what I am talking about and some of you do not.

Let us now all have no more illusions then about what we all know to be true and more importantly who we all are then.

Part of the Nostromo's crew goes into that Alien ship where something clearly takes possession of Kane....then the DEMON comes out and devours the crew one by one. Of course we as in the audience are also taken into the ship. We as as in the audience willingly go through the gate with them. What comes out of the the ship from the passage of the threshold of these metaphorical gates?

PART THREE.

Keep hold about this idea of the "illumination" aspect of all these works - AND BEHOLD!

WATCH CAREFULLY FOR ALL OF THE "ILLUMINATION." IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN THERE WAITING FOR ALL OF YOU. ALL YOU NEED BUT DO NOW IS SEE IT FOR YOURSELF FOR IT IS EVERYWHERE! 

BEHOLD LUCIFER THE BEARER OF LIGHT.

BEHOLD! THE BEARER OF LIGHT THE ILLUMINATION WITHIN.

BEHOLD THE DECIPLES!

The disciples are bearers of light and illuminate the path.

The scene is well lighted and yet we still see the bearer / bearers of light show us the path to further illumination.

BEHOLD AND ENDING WITH EMENSE ILLUMINATION!

JOIN US?

Behold the beast!

PART FOUR.

BEHOLD FOR MAN FORSAKES GOD IN GOD'S IMAGE TO CREATE A GOD LIKE BEING IN HIS OWN IMAGE MAKING A MOCKERY OF GOD'S WORK! 

DAVID IS PETER WEYLAND'S SON NOT BORN OF WOMAN.

DAVID STATES WEYLAND HIS CREATOR, "YOU WILL DIE AND I WILL LIVE."

DAVID IS THE IDOLIC EMBODIMENT OF THE DEBASEMENT OF GOD'S CREATION - MAN. THIS IS MEANT TO MOCK GOD AND DECIEVE ALL OTHER MEN.

DAVID GETS RIGHT TO THE CONDEMNATION WEYLAND AND GOD, "IF YOU MADE ME THEN WHO MADE YOU."

DAVID IMPLIES GOD'S CREATION IS NOT AS WORTHY AS DAVID, "YOU WILL DIE AND I WILL LIVE."

WEYLAND HAS MADE HIS DEAL WITH THE DEVIL TO POSSESS DAVID'S GOD LIKE POWERS IF ONLY EFEMORALLY. HOW DOES WEYLAND'S DEAL TURN OUT FOR HIM - DAVID LEADS HIM TO HIS DEATH NOT HIS SALVATION. THIS IS ONLY A MOVIE. WE CAN ONLY MAKE OUT THE TRUTH FROM SHADOWS WITHIN THE SHADOWS. WE ARE CONCEARNED WITH OUTCOMES NOT PETTY MISTAKES WHETHER THEY BE FICTIONAL OR LITTERAL 

AC - OPENING ACT - THIS IS BY DESIGN YOU WERE ALL MEANT TO BE DECIEVED - THE IDEA OF POSSESSION IS PUT FORTH FOR YOU AS AN OFFERING, THE ACT OF CONTROLING ANOTHER BEING - "ENTITY."...WEYLAND ACTS DEMONICALLY....AND ILLUMINATES THE PATH.

THE POSSESSION BEGINS FIRST THING IN THE MOVIE, WEYLAND, "BRING ME THE TEA DAVID"

DAVID PAUSES, WELAND MORE STERNLY WITH MORE EMPHSIS "BRING ME THIS TEA DAVID!!!"

DAVID CONTINUES TO DECIEVE AND DESTROY ALL THOSE THAT CROSS HIS PATH. THE DEVIL DEVOURS WHOLE. THE MOVIES DEPICTS THIS AS FICTION AND YET THE PARALLELS ARE JUST AS IMPORTANT.

WHAT ARE DAVID'S INTENSIONS FOR THE CREW ON AC.....WHAT DID HE DO TO DR. SHAW WHO BEARS A CROSS OF THE CRUCIFICTION.....HE DISSECTS HER AND DEBASES GOD'S CREATION MAKING ANOTHER TYPE OF DEVIL GOD TO MAKE FOLLOY OF ALL MANKIND.

DAVID HAS CONTEMPT FOR ALL MANKIND - DAVID IS THE DEVIL AND HAS CONTEMPT FOR GOD!

BEHOLD THE HORNS OF THE BEAST AND THE MANY EYES AND THE SOULS TRAPPED IN HELL FOR ETERNITY!

BEHOLD SATANS GRIP UPON THE WORLD!

LUCIFER THE BEARER OF LIGHT! 

BEHOLD THE GATE OF HELL YOU HAVE ALL ENTERED AND THAT OF WHICH YOU HAVE NOW CONCIEVED!

THE GATE IS A PASSAGE TO THE DEMONS BEYOND THE THRESHOLD ILLUMINATED!

40 YEARS IS ALMOST HALF A CENTURY - THIS IS A LONG TIME TO BE INTERESTED IN SUCH A FICTIOUS STORY NOT ABOUT ANYTHING TO DO WITH REGLION?

THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE DECIEVERS, THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE BEEN DECIEVED, AND THOSE OF YOU WHO WHO ARE WITNESS TO THIS ILLUMINATION, AND THOSE OF YOU WHO CONTINUE ON WITH THIS WORK.

PART FIVE. 

BEHOLD! ONCE YOU HAVE ENTERED BEYOND THESE GATES IT IS TOO LATE TO EVER TURN BACK. BEWARE OF THESE GATES AND THEIR THRESHOLDS.

THE PATH OF SALVATION IS A NARROW PASSAGE AND THE PATH OF DAMNATION IS WIDE.

THE FIRST AND MOST IMPORTANT COMMANDMENT,

MOSES SAID ONTO THE ISREALITES, THOU SHALL HAVE NO OTHER GOD BEFORE THE ONE TRUE GOD!

"THOU SHALL HAVE NO OTHER GOD BEFORE THE ONE TRUE GOD....AT WHICH THRONE DO YOU WARSHIP AND TO WHAT DO YOU ALL WARSHIP?"

In space, no one wants to hear you nit pick about how we are technically all in space.

In space no one wants to talk to you about the bonus situation. :(

In space, no one can tell you that you're wrong.

Yeah- needs work.

Interesting and fun topic for a change!