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Blackwinter-witchAlien: Covenant ForumFarewell Sep 29, 2020
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(((HUG)))
We all have 'Human Moments'...comes with the territory. :)
While we're waiting on the The Industry to let RS do another ALIEN story, in the meantime, our little nest here in the dark keep the essence of the franchise alive...
...Close to our hearts. ;)
hoxAlien: Covenant ForumALIEN: A AWAKENINGSep 29, 2020Reply
Ridley must have been smoking when he dreamt up that idea! I'm so glad it never happened. It would have demeaned the Alien and made it far less enigmatic. The enigma is part of the terror.
I can only hope that David's foray into genetic engineering is a child's way of tampering with the ultimate creation horror. He's messed about with the box of fireworks, but he didn't truly make it. He found it and messed about with a bit of chemistry.
If I had my way, we'd have a movie that looks utterly Giger-esque that brings us the full story of the Engineers, and the back story of where they got the black goo technology. There's a much bigger story to be told.
SuperAlienAlien: Covenant ForumFarewell Sep 29, 2020Reply
I'm back!
Apologies if I offended anyone, blame it on my acid blood.
If we are kind, it would be a kind world.
But we are not kind enough and the good things do not happen.
I cannot watch Raised by Wolves yet, but I watch Man in the High Castle, another series produced by Scott Free. It would be just fine to have access to parallel worlds, one where the sequel to Alien Covenant would happen, I would happily live in that world than here where things are stuck.
Would you make another ‘Alien’ movie?
In a heartbeat. I loved working with Ridley and I loved playing that part. I hope we can! I would love it! I hope she’s still alive! (Katherine Waterstone)
I hope to see you again, Daniels!
BigDaveAlien: Covenant ForumALIEN: A AWAKENINGSep 29, 2020Reply
"One of my goals with ALIEN: Manticore and it's sequel is to give The Alien back it's mystique, it's Majeur, it's Power, Mojo and Insidious Appeal"
I think its always Interesting to WONDER as to WHAT it would have been LIKE had say Ridley Scott had got to make ALIEN 2 i think it would have been MUCH different to ALIENS.
I think we have to WONDER to WHY and WHERE it would have been that RS had taken ALIEN if he had done the ONE ENDING he wanted.
Where the Xenomorph would Survive and Mimic Ripley to LURE more Humans in, while that may NOT have been the BEST it shows that RS had more of a Future planned for the Xenomorph than just being Invasive Space Termites.
Instead of a Space Bug, we may have seen the Xenomorph be more like David lol.... a Xenomorph with Davids Agenda and how Disturbing David was... could be something Horrific.
BigDaveAlien: Covenant ForumALIEN: A AWAKENINGSep 29, 2020Reply
"Alien V could work as long as they won't involve anything that is connected to Ripley"
Totally Agree, by Virtue of the Prequels the Franchise is OPENED UP to Beyond the Confines of the Zeta 2 System.
This Topic was trying to look at what could be meant by the ALIEN V Project that Walter Hill and David Giler are working on. Certainly seems to be about RIPLEY and Certainly would see some MOVIES are going to be SHOWN to have ONLY been Dreams.
with David and Walter (Producers) their Focus seemed to be more on the Conspiracy/Agenda of the Companies who WISH to obtain the Xenomorph and A.I it will be Interesting to Discovery what is the FOCUS of their ALIEN V Project.
But the Tag Line "In Space No One Can Hear you Dream" seems to be a Good Indication of the Focus.
I just am NOT sure HOW they going to Pull this Off if we are going to have Quite a LOT of Screen Time with Ripley.
So she will be ALIVE... but then its HOW do they get around that she would be like 30+ Years Older than she was in the Franchise. It surely could not be PUT DOWN to she has Aged that Much while in Cryo-sleep as we have to ASSUME that while in Cryo-sleep then your Body Ages at a MUCH LOWER RATE.
Lets HOPE they dont go FULL MATRIX!
The Xenomorph has Captured Ripley, she is Cocooned for some Purpose, and the Xenomorph has Implanted a False Life/Memory and Dreams in HER...
Does she AWAKEN to be in some kind of ALIEN like Labyrinth? Or in a Weyland-Yutani Lab?
Or a Mental Institute?
The Question comes down to WHAT are they going to do with a NEW ALIEN Franchise?
I think the Pickle with the Prequels is that it SEEMED to Steer Away from ALIEN for the Fans, and come down to more about Certain THEMES which we see as a Continuation with David.. and having HIM go and Create the Xenomorph while it FITS those THEMES. It just is NOT as ALIEN as the Origins we could have IMAGINED before we got the Prequels and we would NOT have Imagined the Prequels to be about Creation/Rebellion Themes that some MAY FEEL should have been KEPT to say Blade Runner.
I doubt this ALIEN V would be much about those THEMES, well i dont think it would be much Connected it at ALL to the Prequels.
so its OK and WHAT do they think the ALIEN Franchise would NEED AGAIN?
It seems that is RIPLEY.... and then WHAT?
We have to ASSUME it will be the Xenomorph again, but i AGREE 100% with Ridley Scott on this, there would be ONLY so much Egg Laying, Face Raping, Chest Bursting and Snarling that you can do..... BEFORE it gets Stale, Cooked or a Joke!
You would have to EVOLVE it, Change either it Aesthetically a Bit, what it can DO, or Uplift them Beyond basically being Space Ants/Termites/Rodents.
Or you look into WHAT it is that the Company can Finally do when they OBTAIN a Specimen beyond seeing it GET OUT OF CONTROL ;)
The Prequels gave the Franchise more LEGS to Stand On and more to Explore, but it was NOT really Executed to the Potential (thanks to AC in Part). If the Prequels are to be IGNORED then its a CASE of what can they do more than give us Eggs and Xenomorphs.
Because the Xenomorph on its OWN only has TWO Legs and well its maybe come down to Standing on its LAST LEG!
BigDaveAlien: Covenant ForumFarewell Sep 29, 2020Reply
They will be BACK ;)
I already gave my TWO CENTS on this HERE
Basically i think it was OK that we had Subjects on this Forum in regards to RBW, as it was a bit more Relevant to the kind of Sci-Fi that some ALIEN Fans would go and WATCH, but i also AGREE that it Needed its OWN part of the SITE as having 1-2 Subjects on the Matter is Fine, but if there becomes Many then it could CLOG UP the ALIEN Forums with None-Related Subjects.
BigDaveAlien: Covenant ForumRAISED BY DAVID AND WALTERSep 29, 2020Reply
"GOD LIKE POWER RIGHT.....you know PKD was always paranoid about the state / government watching"
I think Certainly if down the LINE we become more of a Police State where there are Cameras like everywhere, where there are EYES IN THE SKY and dont Forget our Computers, Smart Phones/Tablets etc.
Who knows what LEVEL of such Tracking is our there in 10-20 Years, it surely as you Pointed Out would have FAR MORE Powerful Computers by then, that could Pin Point and Track you down EASY.
For those in POWER they could USE these Tools to their Advantage and Control.... it could be a TOOL to our Downfall if EVER we saw that A.I becomes Sentient though!
Blackwinter-witchAlien: Covenant ForumCentral Repository for BWW Stories & WorksSep 28, 2020Reply
The requested Vigenette having to do with being told from the P.O.V. of The Alien is done, it's in first-draft form now, only needs editing and a final proofing, then you'll all be able to have a peek at the universe as it experiences life. :)
You won't be waiting long, but this is a tricky piece, so I'm going slowly to make sure it's done right and as best I possibly can.
Blackwinter-witchAlien: Covenant ForumRAISED BY DAVID AND WALTERSep 28, 2020
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I'm glad you enjoyed the insights into my mind and approach as well as my upcoming work! :)
I will try to make this as coherent as I can, I am having some issues with that tonight...it comes and goes, courtesy of Enemy actions.
IF I miss, or am unclear, on any point, please bring it to my attention/ask clarification, ok? :)
I want to sincerely and appreciatively Thank-You again for your compliments and would like to assure you that I am indeed striking out on my own...but the realms I will be writing in still require further development and refining before I can 'break ground'.
Suspension of disbelief and modern science...you nailed it. YES, modern science makes writing sci-fi something of a challenge...
But, challenges are meant to be faced and contested against...perhaps beaten. ;)
Ah, okay, now I understand what you meant about 'gods' and such...the overarching power of the networks we entrust more and more of our lives to.
Some will love it...others will leave for other worlds when they get the chance. But, there's always...ALWAYS the probability that an Organicallt Spawned Machine Consciousness is alive in the internet right now...and in time, it might choose to reveal itself, if it thinks it can trust us.
Think of each computer, no matter how small, that's Connected as akin to a synapse...
...now, how many synapses are in a human brain? Now...how many 'synapses' are composing the internet right now, and more added daily? ;)
It's very likely it's already out there...learning about itself, and us, and the greater universe...learning about it all.
The state, surveillance and 'Ghosts'.
Hubby has a friend...he doesn't exist. He was declared dead 20 years ago, and exists without any connection to all the nonsense we take for granted.
Cryptocurrency of course made life much easier for him, but collecting recyclables and selling them for cash is trackless...that's a tiny insight into how he lives entirely outside the system, yet not homeless, in the middle of one of the biggest cities on the planet. :D
I deal with 'god' like tech networks and such on an as-needed basis.
EG;
1; Some worlds won't have anything to do with insanely overdeveloped and powerful planetary infonetworks such as Shadowfall.
2; Others just cannot afford it, too busy with keeping up the Necessities like life support.
3; Ship computers like the ones in ALIEN are a challenge...if they can make androids like David, Ash, Walter and Bishop...then imagine what a ship computer is capable of.
SO, it's handled by 'settings'...some crews have the computer run everything, they're just along to get paid as 'organic oversight' if needed.
Manticore, Sin and the crew prefer being kept completely in-the-loop as AI isn't all that good at Intuitive Leaps and the strictly Organic advantages us fleshlings still have over the Machines.
4; God-like infonetworks don't mean a lot when you're fifty+ light years from the edge of charted space on an unknown world.
5; WW3...Cascade EMP weapons, physical destruction and devastation of infrastructure cuts out a lot of the 'god' power in things.
I have one world where 2077 is very much like 1967 in terms of predominant tech. Phones booths and payphones are everywhere again, internet is 56K tops...flatscreens exist, so do cellphones...but 5g has gone the way of the dinosaur.
It all depends on which Realm I am playing in really. 'God' tech power infonetworks and such don't fit everywhere, and there's ways and reasons why they cannot exist or no longer exist in any given realm...but others absolutely NEED them, of course as the inverse is true.
I think I covered everything...if anything was unclear, or you have any more questions, please ask!! :D
Thank-you, all of you!! :D
setaverdeAlien: Covenant ForumRAISED BY DAVID AND WALTERSep 28, 2020Reply
Raised By Wolves: The Podcast | Ep. 1: Robots | HBO Max
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhcFEujZGTU&list=PLSduohp5OGX7lXRG7hErbo4wpRK0BMbV-&index=6
setaverdeAlien: Covenant ForumRAISED BY DAVID AND WALTERSep 28, 2020Reply
Ridley Scott Gives A Glimpse into His World | Raised By Wolves | HBO Max
Blackwinter-witchAlien: Covenant ForumFarewell Sep 28, 2020
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WELL said and explains much most of us likely never considered!!
I hope he comes back/doesn't leave...I hope he understands this is all about getting RBW it's own proper home/showcase.
SvanyaAlien: Covenant ForumFarewell Sep 28, 2020Reply
@SuperAlien - I mean, i'm working on getting Raised by Wolves a proper sub-site here, I really like RBW and am active on the reddit so no idea why you would think I have anything against the series or Ridley Scott. I'm a fan of both...
I'm an admin here, I have to do admin things sometimes and moving posts to the appropriate places is part of the job. I'm in the process of moving every RBW thread to here and have explained why on each of them, i've also requested people post any future RBW material to the proper forum from now on (Currently it's SciFi Television). This move has nothing to do with you or RBW, it's a simple logistical choice.
Like I said, if there is enough interest in this series here I will be working on getting a proper Raised By Wolves subsite, Scified Television is where it should be for now, it doesn't belong in any other site as it is it's own series and that helps with searches when people want to look up the series.
Anyways, i'm sorry you're upset and hope you return.
BlackAntAlien: Covenant ForumRAISED BY DAVID AND WALTERSep 28, 2020Reply
BWW,
That is awesome.
Those are much different answers than what I was expecting.
RBW has left a minor indentation, nothing that cannot be buffed out....forgettable stuff real fast.
What is not forgettable though is the time I think we all invest in each others craft...some of us are better at writing like yourself....I read a few pages and was immediately impressed with your craft. All the right things were there. Although why you did not strike out on your own claim I do not know.
I think you are very talented. For lack of a more straight forward way to say this though I think originality is always more important.
I know I am most certainly not an author / a screen play writer definately...but originality is not something I need.
I have read hundreds of Sci-fi books and I like/liked various authors for immature reasons at different periods in my life...because hey why not. Things are new and interesting when you read it for the first time. As times goes by though you get to the 20th PKD novel and you straight away just want to know how paranoid it will all be and who is it effecting. PKD is all about cause and effect.
But that still does not answer my question about you and god / gods in your works. Please let me explain.
Without making this too long for all the other readers I would like to get right to the most important thing. Suspension of disbelief. I think it was easier to write about science fiction years ago because so much in science was more about everything from early 1930's physics. That is not the case anymore....grad students regularly test the speed of light in labs across the globe so the technology is so much more advanced - far more advanced than anyone realizes.
We are really pushing the boundaries of real AI right now....in this decade it become a real thing. I have no idea what that means....but the singularity is very real for me and that is a GOD LIKE BEING.....much smarter than all of mankind....Much more powerful than all of mankind.
This is just the computing aspect of things of course there are many other instances where essentially the servers are so leveraged they display GOD LIKE powers in minute ways right now.
So that is why I asked the question or maybe I should have asked the question in a different way....what do you see all of us doing with these kind powers that are very different from the rest of the 20th century and what might it mean in day to day lives?
Here is another example and you do not have to look too far to see things like this.....you can drag a picture into google images and it will differentiate it from billions of other entirely different pictures in a few hundreds of a single second. For me that is a god like power! If everyone's face were in that system it could track you where ever you go as long as there are enough cameras around.
GOD LIKE POWER RIGHT.....you know PKD was always paranoid about the state / government watching his every move....always wondered what he would have thought about a search engine company with GOD LIKE power like that.....wonder what the governments are really using it for.....
But I digress....I was just interested to know how some of these kinds of themes are being incorporated into your sci-fiction writing....how you are dealing with suspension of disbelief where we are already in an age with GOD LIKE POWERS.....or maybe you are not? Or maybe it's a secret and you cannot say cause you are still working on it...figuring it out as go through the creative process.
What ever the case may be BWW I think we all find it fascinating to understand more about creative talented writers like yourself and how you flesh out your creations.
Blackwinter-witchAlien: Covenant ForumRAISED BY DAVID AND WALTERSep 28, 2020
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Long-Term goals? Screenwriter, no thanks. Very Famous...again, no thanks. If I get to the level of Larry Niven, Ray Bradbury, I'll be ecstatic and will have reached my preferred degree of notoriety.
'Valhalla'?? (Please forgive and overlook memory-slips, they're a current side-issue due to The Enemy's actions)
If you mean the workpiece I am playing with regarding my take on RBW, yes I can:
Sometime In The Future To Come...
Humanity has absolutely annihilated it's civilization.
Out of a population across many star systems of over a Trillion beings remains approximately 100,000 humans...though they can be called 'human' only by scientific classification in a zoological index.
They are divided into Bands, they are 'scavvers'...the remnant savage dregs of humanity's once prosperous species possessing still-workable technology...think Reavers and Mad Max raider-types.
But, they are not the future for the door of history is closing on them and they know it.
They are facing increasing infertility rates, more and more...they have at most, a century before they are Extinct.
Then there's the The Pride and the Human children the Alpha-Mother brought forth from herself. Only 13 of them, but they were all conceived of Optimized Natural Human Genetic Material. Carried to term in a Chimeran Artemis's womb, birthed naturally, each one of them.
The Children are a prize the scavvers want and need in absolute desperation...for in those children is their only hope of survival.
How's that for a teaser? :)
The God/gods are silent, Humanity--any thinking being--must contend vs. the universe without divine assistance.
The God/Gods do not enter my works, however religion will be shown for the cataclysmically divisive and devastating force that it is...an atavism that needs to be outgrown and left behind.
RBW addresses this, most do not, so I will be involving it as given the antagonists I've created, I really have no choice really.
RS and others have the 'god' thing all wrapped up so I won't waste time of my audience addressing such. Also, I doubt I am qualified for theological philosophizing.
Green tea, triple strong, just barely enough sugar to balance the bitterness. :)
In time I'll binge RBW...but for now I keep a stand-off to keep my ideas un-influenced by it as much as I can.
Blackwinter-witchAlien: Covenant ForumFarewell Sep 28, 2020
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RBW deserved it's own space, as whether people like it or not, it needs to be given the respect of having it's Own Space, right?
Please don't leave over this!!
You're one of the best contributors here, and I hope you can see that RBW is so VERY much it's Own and Unique Thing that it pretty much screamed like a Necromancer for it's own space instead of being kedged in here amongst ALIEN related stuff that overshadows it.
Whether people love it or hate it, it has Power, and it's getting Respect even from those who dislike it.
Relocation was an act of respect for it, please try to see that?
...and please don't leave. ((HUG))
BlackAntAlien: Covenant ForumFarewell Sep 28, 2020Reply
SuperAlien,
This is truly heartbreaking please do not leave!
No one is going anywhere...if anything this will make everything easier to have conversations about RBW...No one is against you and no one ever has been against you!
We miss you very much...I miss you SuperAlien!!!!! PLEASE COME BACK!

Everyone say something!!!! NOW!


KongzillaAlien: Covenant ForumFarewell Sep 28, 2020Reply
So much drama over RbW. First @Blackwinter-witch, now @SuperAlien. The question arises - who will be next? It seems that RbW has not brought anything of value to our humble community. Rather, on the contrary, it had a destructive effect.
It looks like we need to get back on the path of the Alien and the androids from our main universe. And do not fall under the bad influence of RbW. Until our community disintegrated in the confusing messages of another franchise.
BlackAntAlien: Covenant ForumRAISED BY DAVID AND WALTERSep 28, 2020
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What are your long term goals as a science fiction author?
If you could wave a magic wand would you rather be a very successful screen writer or a very famous author? Maybe both?
Can you give hints on your upcoming work involving "Valhalla"? I think any of the arcane mythos will work a reference to what ever you have weaved into a new plot?
What has you interested in God, or the Gods in general in your work? Are you exploring this for personal reasons or is there more you would like to share in general?
And what is your favorite morning beverage to start the day with? LOL
Oh I think this is where I have to say something about RBW....ummmmmmmmmmm ohhhhh sorry I just cannot say anything nice about that show....my fast forward key on the computer almost got broken. The acting on the old very first Star Trek shows was better....but!!! some of the sets on RBW are sure pretty to look at - they sure have come a long way with those green screens.
Blackwinter-witchAlien: Covenant ForumRAISED BY DAVID AND WALTERSep 27, 2020Reply
https://screenrant.com/raised-wolves-blade-runner-alien-timeline-connections/

...just my reaction.
...and a cute cephalopod I agree with.
setaverdeAlien: Covenant ForumRAISED BY DAVID AND WALTERSep 27, 2020Reply
How Raised By Wolves Fits Into The Blade Runner & Alien Timeline
Raised by Wolves on HBO is Ridley Scott's latest foray into science fiction; here's how the show's timeline matches that of Alien and Blade Runner.
https://screenrant.com/raised-wolves-blade-runner-alien-timeline-connections/
BigDaveAlien: Covenant ForumALIEN: Back to the Future Part 2Sep 27, 2020Reply
"Not sure what you mean when you say a hive-mind "
some of Davids Workshop Notes seem to show that he has been Experimenting and Trying to Perfect some kind of Extra Sensory Perception/Organs with his Experiments.
so i was thinking he could maybe look to take these and APPLY them to his Creations (on Origae-6), and maybe they would have Senses that we DONT and maybe they could Communicate in some kind of Telepathic Way or using some kind of other Sensory Way that could maybe give them some kind of HIVE MIND (so they would be somewhat like the BORG from Star Trek) have like a Collective Consciousness.
"Unfortunately the way that it seems to go at least when they made the prequels makes me feel done with Alien theatrically"
I think a lot of People feel that way with the Prequels, i think thats WHY they are in a PICKLE as far as to CONTINUE with the Prequels, with Sticking Points being that the FANS will expect a Continuation to Conclude with the Answers to LV-426 but then to NOT be about that David was the Creator.
They will LIKELY want to see more of the Engineers/Space Jockey and indeed LESS about David etc.... While some Fans may wanted to Continue with his Story.
You SIMPLY cant Please Everyone... and to Continue and TRY and please the Majority is going to be TOUGH.
Why i think the Prequels will just EVENTUALLY just be Forgotten about.
The One Idea i proposed could GET AROUND not having to Follow David, by VIRTUE of the Engineers returning to Planet 4
Here is WHAT they Discover.
*The City and its Inhabitants are Destroyed, with the USE of the Bio-Weapon from LV-223.
*Proof that Human looking beings had taken a Engineer Juggernaught from LV-223.
*Skeletal/Rotting Remains of Human looking beings and a Preserved Corpse of One (Dr Shaw).
*The Remains of a Synthetic Human (Walter).
From these the Engineers would be able to Work Out that Humans had gone to LV-223 and then some also had Ended Up on Planet 4. The Engineers would then have to DETERMINE from WHERE the Humans Came (Easy if the Earth is the only Place where Humans should be).
I think it would be Difficult for them to Discover where the Covenant and David are heading...
The Engineers would also come across the ROOM where we saw David had his Eggs... and so they would have NO REASON to Pursue him, apart from REVENGE and then its Finding Him.
I think they would certainly be Wanting to Destroy Earth and Humans, they would also want to SECURE LV-223.
They may be IMPRESSED with the Eggs that David has Left Behind, and so they could see the Potential in this Creation and CHOOSE to take it to LV-223 to Mass Produce and Evolve.
Which could LEAD US to the Space Jockey event.
You would just have to find a WAY to get Human Characters into the PLOT.
You then have a Movie that would bring back the Engineers, go back to LV-223 at some point, that will CONCLUDE with the Eggs and Derelict. You completely BY-PASS having to go and Follow David...
Yet his Role is NOT going to be Discredited... he becomes the Middle Man, and WITHOUT the Engineers Experiments, Black Goo there would be NO EGGS that David had Created on Planet 4.
And so the Engineers are WHO had Started to WHAT become the Eggs that David had Created, but the Engineers would then be the ONES who go and EVOLVE and Mass Produce the Xenomorph we have in the Franchise.
So David did-not Create the Wheel, he kind of Reinvented it, and the Engineers take his Reinvention and PERFECT it to get those Eggs on the Derelict.
This is maybe a way to Conclude the Prequels without having to IGNORE the First Two or THROW them into the None-Canon Rejection Bin.
BigDaveAlien: Covenant ForumTip of the Hat to IngenieroSep 27, 2020Reply
Well Congratulations Indeed.
Hopefully they will be back to Contribute more when we get News about WHEN the Next ALIEN Project starts to begin Pre-Production.
Blackwinter-witchAlien: Covenant ForumALIEN: A AWAKENINGSep 27, 2020Reply
The Alien is The Alien
David's critter is a cheap knock-off.
One of my goals with ALIEN: Manticore and it's sequel is to give The Alien back it's mystique, it's Majeur, it's Power, Mojo and Insidious Appeal.
I will try...more than that, well, all I can do is my best to save The Alien from being dragged down medicority Avenue to has-been dumpyard.
Blackwinter-witchAlien: Covenant ForumCentral Repository for BWW Stories & WorksSep 27, 2020
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Thank-You!! :D
I was taking a bit of a risk with that one, I wanted to have it keep some rough-edges to fit better withe the content.
The Violence, yeah...that's how I feel about The Enemy.
But, the Intent of it is to show more of Selinaehra's backstory, as 'OLARKUS' handles how she ended up alone in a harshly unforgiving universe at 6 years old.
The way Ash described The Alien...
...also describes her very, very well also.
'A survivor...unclouded by conscience, remorse or delusions of morality.'
It's also an 'appetizer' for what's to come in ALIEN: Manticore 'Out Of The Silent Dark'
;)
Thoughts_DreamsAlien: Covenant ForumCentral Repository for BWW Stories & WorksSep 27, 2020Reply
Paranatural Selection, I like both the title and the story. I can imagine where you got the inspiration from but it resulted in something creative and good.
Thoughts_DreamsAlien: Covenant ForumALIEN: Back to the Future Part 2Sep 27, 2020Reply
BD: About humanoids, then maybe if you look at what he says about a kind world then that could've been the case. It doesn't have to be what they planned for the next one but it's a possibility. Creating hybrid humanoids maybe but it still gives him too much of a role and I’m not willing to sit through another David-movie. Sorry, but I don't care about what he does next. To me he is kind of dead, even though there might be people that think otherwise. He could have been better written and executed in Covenant but they made him worse compared to Promtheus.
Not sure what you mean when you say a hive-mind communication, can you clarify? Like a smarter version of zombies or the monsters in AR (the scene where they get free from the ice-mist thing)? I don't think that we can draw any conclusion from his experiments on the Engineer babies since we didn't see any of that. Why do you make that connection?
Super-soldiers and Alien V, it could be difficult since AR is such a disappointment. Keep it as a spin-off and besides it's time to try something new in this franchise. It depends on the writing and the execution of it.
“I see how it PERFECTLY FITS within the Themes/Arc of the Prequels...…”
You and your themes, ;) I don't really care about the themes if it's executed as being about a mad android and everything else isn't important. I'm not sure if a lot of people would care, I wouldn't. Thinking about how it would be on-screen makes me tired and bored. At least it's better because having David as the creator is just one of the things that AC did wrong.
“You would NOT even Need to have David in the Movie to do this.”
Hell yeah! Maybe we could get a decent alien-movie then. It isn't just about reducing the role of David, it's also about other things. What they were going with David and it being about him, they totally need to reconsider all of that because whatever one thinks of it objectively it hasn't worked just look at the box-office and subjectively it isn't exciting.
About humanoids, then maybe if you look at what he says about a kind world then that could've been the case. It doesn't have to be what they planned for the next one but it's a possibility. Creating hybrid humanoids maybe but it still gives him too much of a role and I’m not willing to sit through another David-movie.
1.Reduce the time of David or get rid of him totally
2.More about the Engineers, make them or someone above them the creator of the Xeno
3.More about the human characters, and they got to be written by someone that knows how to do that
4.Don't cut out character-moments for run-time
Those are the things that they need to do to make me even consider watching another alien-movie. Unfortunately the way that it seems to go at least when they made the prequels makes me feel done with Alien theatrically.
Thoughts_DreamsAlien: Covenant ForumALIEN: A AWAKENINGSep 27, 2020Reply
BD:
I wouldn't mind if they would explore that WY-company a bit more but it got to be done in a smart way. Keeping in mind how everything after Alien 3 has been I got to say that I'm a bit worried that it would get ruined. My idea is that the WY bosses would be the bad guys if such a movie would be made. After the prequels I’ve had enough of curve-balls, thank you very much. Not to say that you can’t have surprises but they got to be well-made but I have grown sort of skeptical keeping in mind how everything after Alien 3 have been. I’m almost reacting automatically like “what will they screw up this time?” but if there are writers that know how to make a good story then why not but they got to be good.
The Weyland company could be interesting but I refuse to have it be about AI. Maybe they could have them like robot-assassins (think a more scary version of the assassin in Star Wars 2). Alien V could work as long as they won't involve anything that is connected to Ripley. Hopefully we will see new things and not more Ripley or something related.
You're right with the last paragraph, David as the creator of the monster is bad and showing that the Xeno is just something of a nightmare would be lame. I want it to be unknown, the prequels have cheapened it down enough but it could be worse. They got to add to the Xeno-lore instead of taking away from it like the prequels have done. Maybe there is a way to save it but they got to be smart. My preferred way is that the beginning would be on a planet that we don't know about. Right now we have the black goo but that could be taken into different directions. What's the most important thing for now is to save it from being made by a mad robot which is something that Alien V could show even though the movie in general would be bad. If Scott would still like it to be made by David, then whatever because that got to be changed.
Thoughts_DreamsAlien: Covenant ForumTip of the Hat to IngenieroSep 27, 2020Reply
Congrats to Ingeniero, thanks for your contributions. Stay around
setaverdeAlien: Covenant ForumRAISED BY DAVID AND WALTERSep 26, 2020Reply
Raised by Wolves - Main Theme (Opening Titles) by Ben Frost
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFs4yX4V7NQ
Raised By Wolves: "Depths of Bliss"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBtuO6dN3To&list=PLxKgOL62ZcRKgYu6BYvSA-PUyDhRI0pQM
Raised by Wolves Episode 9 End Credits Soundtrack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPujgdga_hA&list=PLxKgOL62ZcRKgYu6BYvSA-PUyDhRI0pQM&index=13
Blackwinter-witchAlien: Covenant ForumALIEN: Manticore sequel updateSep 26, 2020
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For convenience, here's a link. This new Topic allows much better organization and makes things MUCH easier to find for everyone. :D
Blackwinter-witchAlien: Covenant ForumRAISED BY DAVID AND WALTERSep 26, 2020Reply
Yeah, I am going to proceed with my idea that challenges RBW in Storytelling.
Not immediately, aside from a Vignette or two, as I have a lot else on my plate.
But I can do Better, and I won't be relying on special effects over writing-quality.
I love RS and his son as they are proven and do great work, but I am uncertain about the other directors and producers...they seem more interested in recycling Sci-Fi trope and slathering things over with special-effects.
The Film Theory Of EverythingAlien: Covenant ForumALIEN: Manticore sequel updateSep 26, 2020Reply
Hey GREAT Blackwinter!... Looking forward to it! :-D !
Dark NebulaAlien: Covenant ForumTip of the Hat to IngenieroSep 26, 2020Reply
Congrats Ingeniero, lemme give you a hug.

dkAlien: Covenant ForumRAISED BY DAVID AND WALTERSep 25, 2020Reply
The flying sex pic recalls Cube 2: Hyper Cube.
Blackwinter-witchAlien: Covenant ForumTip of the Hat to IngenieroSep 25, 2020Reply
Congrats on hitting one of The Lucky Numbers!!
...well, not-so-lucky if you actually visit those worlds, but that aside, Congrats!!! :D


















