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"The anthology idea has been considered for a while now and bears out the information we received from earlier this year. It’s unclear if it’ll play into the rebooted movies that Disney’s planning, but the format certainly provides freedom to explore new characters and time periods in the history of the franchise. Given that the new films will reportedly take place in the same continuity as earlier entries, albeit with all new characters, storylines and settings, we’d imagine there will be some crossover through prequels and sequels as well."
If Ridley Scott has a role in it then i think it would maybe do the Franchise Justice...... but then maybe it would also be about things that some Fans are NOT interested in, such as the Emphasis being taken away from the Xenomorph.
"It’s unclear if it’ll play into the rebooted movies that Disney’s planning"
GOSH NO! On Plus side maybe i wont be around in time to be Subjected to what could be TRIPE ;)
I dont have Netflix....
Looking into this Series it has some Decent Premise, but its kind of a Amalgamation of so many Sci-Fi series we have seen before, seems like its not that Well Executed and like they added some LOVE ISLAND into the Mix.
But i cant Judge it until i have seen it Myself.... and Everyone has their own likes and dislikes what may-not be one Persons Cuppa could be another Persons Prosecco!
I think the Potential for either David being shown to have Swallowed some say Xenomorph like Embryos that are brought on-board a Ship in his Disabled Body could be Interesting.
Also a Crashed Ship on a Frozen World..... that could be Interesting Especially if that Ship had some of the Pathogen, imagine if this stuff ENTERS the Water but is Frozen! You would NOT want to Un-freeze that Stuff especially if the Ocean Area had some Already Frozen Basic Life Form. Once those Temperatures get Higher and the Pathogen infects some Tiny Micro-Organism we can only IMAGINE what could become of them!
I think they have to be CAREFUL because there is just as much of a Chance that this could be a MESS!
Unless they are Careful and do something that does-not contradict or mention much about the Prequels. I think they should NOT mention nothing much about the Space Jockey or Xenomorph Origins, just leave this as a Mystery at Present, because going the route to Confirm the Xenomorphs are Ancient and Space Jockey is NOT a Engineer could also potentially be BAD...
But then carry on with the Prequels route would also be something that could PISS the Fans off...
Maybe a Anthology Series that takes on Different Aspects of the Franchise could work, but i think Fans would EXPECT them to be about Xenomorphs and its a case of HOW MANY times must we go this route before the BEAST becomes ASHES.
But say having 3 Short TV Series of say 6-10 Episodes that Total say 360-440 Minutes and that Each Series is NOT connected to each other could be Interesting.
I think its Interesting to visit and learn more about such places as far as in Context to the Video Games Alone... for sure ;)
I recommend AVP2, it might have dated graphics but the story is great
I think maybe this would be WHAT some Fans would like, NOT every Fan but i am sure MOST would prefer something to SHOW that David is NOT the Creator of the Xenomorph.
There are some Conflicts with what the Prequels could have shown, as far as the WHOLE aspect of the Derelict and its Contents.
While there are some Aesthetic Differences between the Xenomorph and Ships, they are VERY SIMILAR the Franchise does-not give us any Indication of the Eggs Origins prior to the Prequels apart from that a Queen can lay them... but this does-not 100% Prove that they come from a Queen, or that this means 100% that David is not the Originator.
The Space Jockey also has some Differences but lets NOT get in to that ;)
The Main Conflicts really with the Prequels is for me, that REGARDLESS of the Eggs Origins, and WHAT the Space Jockey is... it DOES-NOT appear like that Ship had been there for Under 20 Years!
The other BIG Conflict from ALIEN is indeed the CARGO HOLD... which certainly would have to be HALF the size to FIT inside the Ship as Indicated.
So MAYBE a Visit to LV-426 and Reveal that the Eggs are Stored in Underground Silo's could be a way to Please a Majority of the Fans.. well Certainly at least 50% i would say.
@hox
Maybe the Engineers have Smaller Shuttle Ships like Dr Jerkoff's? That Dock via those Holes?
Yes,i know that!But i only played AVP 3,so i didn't know it existed...
I just finished reading the official Alien Isolation novel.
I can't decide whether it was just poorly written/executed, or that for this particular narrative a video game format was the best experience.
Either way the novel was not enjoyable. Except the first ~20% the rest of the novel read like a walkthrough. Dull, with a total lack of suspense. Or perhaps it was the disconnect from being the player, to being the reader that made it feel so empty.
This has given me some reservations about Alien Isolation being adapted as a movie, or other format. In terms of a video game experience Isolation is near perfection and because of that, I think it should be left as is.
By all means, continue the story though :)
I enjoy AL so far and have no problems with it ripping off other movies. Thus far, it demonstrates that an Alienverse show can be viable- and I have warmed to the actual show.
We have talked about this for a long time and now some one is doing it.
I notice some episodes may have a different vibe, but I also see that directors and writers change too.
well that is disappointing about the reviews for AL but not really a surprise, as stated in OP its not ground-breaking.
But its not terrible either, I am genuinely keen to see a Season 2. Most of season 1 is dedicated to building the suspense for where it plans on going...
However Another Life is not the Alien franchise and the Alien franchise has it own established IP to work with. The challenge for new Sci-fi series is trying to establish themselves amid the dense crowd - and unfortunately the quick route is to borrow and steal from proven troupes to fast-track success by offering familiarity. Another Life may be guilty of this for Season one. It does have an exciting over-aching story it wants to tell, whether we get to see it or not....time will tell
Alien does not need to do this.
The point of this thread was to highlight a blueprint for a the Alien franchise offering a Series to compliment the cinematic realm. Another Life was a slow-burner, full of suspense and anticipation.
Ideally an Alien series would follow suite but be darker and crank up the dread throughout the series.
Other good examples:
The Expanse
Altered Carbon
The 100
The Rain
When a series of any type starts, the first few episodes can be dicey due to the set up and characters etc. Another Life is no different in that respect.
The OT was not meant as a plug or review, but I am plugging it for what it's worth.
By the 3rd episode, it starts to come into its own.
It blatantly rips off Prometheus and AC, but has merits imo.
I am watching to see if the Alien franchise can work as a streaming series based on Another Life. I say that it can. The reviews suck, but check it out for yourself. Do you avoid things just because others tell you it sucks? I started out trying to be detached, but it is actually a decent show- derivative as it is!
As derivitive as it is, it has what Prometheus and AC lacked- decent character development.
Give it 4 episodes and see what you think.
If I followed reviews all my life, I would have missed out on a lot of cool stuff.
This sounds good on the surface but the sources seem sketchy. I would like to see this happen- even an animated Isolation series could be good.
why do you say that nobody should mess with him?
Because sometimes it's fun to speculate and discuss- that's pretty much it.
I more interested in the planet from Aliens versus Predator 2, Lv-1201.
Which was home to a plethora of unique species before the Pilot Race (Space Jockey/Engineers) colonized the planet. Its even hinted that the pilots introduced the xenomorphs to the planet. The Yaut'ja colonized the planet some thousands of years later before an earthquake doomed the Anicent Predator colony, then 500 years later Humans colonized the planet.
hox is correct about viewer reviews. The reviews I have read are generally poor, but I am giving it a chance anyway. It draws from a lot of other movies but there have been some surprises in there too so far.
The primary reason for watching is to see how an Alien universe show could play out via streaming. I want to see how well characters can develop- will I care about them later? Being entertained is secondary. I am trying to watch as a study of sorts.
On a side note, some MST3K type entertainment is derived from things seen in Prometheus or Covenant. "Come on, they're really not going to do this on an unexplored plan- oh yes they just did! .....TWICE!!!"
I will give it a season and decide on continuing after that. The acting and visuals are quite good.
'David had after all conducted similar Experiments on Engineer Infants.'
Yeah..That's more like it. I could get behind a large colony of big mutant freaks. The Engineers or space marines have to come and clean up. Thousands of very large Newborn type creatures attacking anything that moves. David says they are just 'learning'.
Maybe a frozen world with ice caves?
Final scene: Space marines capture David..placing him in a holding cell as he watches them nuke his colony.
When attempting to disable David(remove his head) Monsters sprout from from Davids body and attack the marines and causing the ship to crash...killing all? Daniels is watching from a second marine drop ship...they circle around, following the path of the first drop ship(David on board)...they watch as the drop ship slams into a frozen lake..the ship slowly sinks to the bottom of the semi-frozen lake.....Daniels yells at the marines that they must make sure David is dead...they assure her he is and they leave Origae 6.
Epilogue:
Some years later an unmarked drop ship returns to the accident scene, it lands on the frozen lake and out steps the human version of Bishop, dressed in a parka he directs the space marines where to start the search.
They could use the actor Lance Henriksen just as he is now. The original Bishop.
He'd play a 'monster' part in Alien:Covenant 3.
I looked on Fandom wikia and i think its a Hammerpede...
@BigDave and @chli, I like the sound of that. There is so much that could be done with this universe that we haven't seen yet. Here, for example, is a thought...
The Engineer ships have triple 'vaginal' openings on the front. Why? Wouldn't it be nice to see some kind of ship that had a set of equivalent 'male' parts. It 'mates' with the Derelict for some mysterious purpose.
By the way Dk,i watched the quadrilogy as a kid,as a freaking kid!
AND THE CRAB ALIEN LOST!So why do you say that nobody should mess with him?
Er... no. I had the misfortune to struggle through several episodes of Another Life. It is dreadfully executed. At the time I gave it 1 star on IMDB, and I stick by that. Tens of thousands of reviewers give it a score of less than five, which a poor rating on IMDB by anyone's standard.
I'm trying to erase the memory of it from my mind, but what lingers are groups of millennials squabbling amongst each other and generally acting stupid. And, of course, the science is nuts.
I'd say avoid this one before you make the same mistake that I did.
A return to LV-426 would be interesting. They dig up the Derelict and discover that the eggs are, in fact, in a cave under the Derelict (just as Kane says). This cave leads to something . . .
old threads. Awesome!
I forgot this one from the OP. Hopefully the clip starts at 01:10
A crab Xeno could be interesting indeed. I would imagine its origin to be exposed to the pathogen kind of how the little grubs were exposed in Prometheus. Something like this would be great to explore in an off shoot movie ala AVP or even a mini series on a streaming service.
We recently speculated what it is that constitutes biomechanoid art, and I made a passing reference to crabs in some sense fitting the bill for a biomechanoid organism.
As a lad I had a crab exoskeleton in my bedroom, and I was awestruck by how its super-strong pincer could move, and the ingenious arrangement where it could fold the parts of its claw together to form a compact tightly locked shape. A brilliant design forged by nature that looks in some ways like an engineered machine.
I say bring it on. A xenomorph with crab-like features would be a welcoming menacing addition. There’s scope for some novelty.
You know the scene in Aliens where the xenomorphs begin unfolding out of the walls? That reminds me a little of how my crab’s claw could extend.
Ingeniero I will never mess with them- I would only eat them with melted butter.
I saw that rifle in Ready Player One as well.
Never mess with the Crabontoyas dk.
Actually, I think the 41A is basically an Uzi- a 9mm spray and pray weapon.
Great Covenant and Lander graphics BigDave....thank you.
...as long as he has Dr. Shaw on his pit crew...
Contra III on Super Nintendo had all kinds of Alien inspiration in the graphics.
David could have thrown a black goo kegger and then he might have saved his juggernaut from being zapped.
The first Hyperdyne Systems series were constructed by the Weyland Corporation based on designs from the late Sir Peter Weyland's notes, Weyland-Yutani Report, page 35.
The report was released years after Aliens and it could have been a connection to Peter Weyland (Hyperdyne models) added later by the report authors. There could be a strong chance that Ash is David based on the WY report and how Ash was handled in Alien: Out of the Shadows.
The report, on page 35, speaks of Artificial Persons' personality and how it is stored and transferred, see below.
"'Personality' subprograms could be downloaded depending on the AP application, and all models ran a laboratory installed subprogram that ensured complete loyalty to Company interests."
David and Ash's photos are on opposite pages when discussing the "Personality" on page 34 and 35.
Alien: Out of the Shadows Novel
I find the below portion of the novel very interesting as well.
“‘It’s a ship,’ he said.
‘What?’ Ripley gasped. She hadn’t even considered that possibility. Buried almost a mile beneath the planet’s surface, surely this couldn’t be anything but a building, a temple of some sort, or some other structure whose purpose was more obscure.’”
Alien: Out of the Shadows, page 167.
You're version of the Alien: Covenant main theme is wonderful MonsterZero...will listen to the others as well.
........as he backs into a boiling pot of water..........
The FTL communication may explain the scrambled time stamp in the Covenant Crew Messages below.
Tennessee
Daniels
Private Rosenthal
Captain Oram
Sergeant Lope
My name is Inigo Crabontoya, you boiled my father, prepare to die!
It seems we may have to fear crabs after all.
