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dkAlien: Covenant ForumXenomorph VS Protomorph

Pretty much agree. I lean toward the XM.

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SuperAlienAlien: Covenant ForumRidley Scott to Receive BAFTA Fellowship

On Monday 19 February, Ridley Scott will discuss craft and career at a special ‘BAFTA A Life in Pictures’ event at BAFTA 195 Piccadilly.

Maybe he will bring the good news from Disney. 

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SuperAlienAlien: Covenant ForumThe Cave

In the Alien Covenant novelization David told Oram he found some dead egg on planet 4 and he only replicated it. But this is not in the movie, not even as a deleted scene. All we learn from the prequels is that David created the eggs. 

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BigDaveAlien: Covenant ForumPrometheus Clues

I think the Merlin Project is a Movie, be it a TV movie Series or a Theatrical one.  I am not sure though, but i dont think its a TV Series i.e 45 min run time episodes, it appears it will be a series of Films. It appears it will be some kind of Saga and so not a Stand Alone Movie so maybe a Trilogy?  Hopefully we shall get some more news in the coming months.

The Alien Franchise is in a state of Limbo at the moment, Disney could do a sequel to AC way down the line and it would not even need Fassbender, because they could just set the movie in the aftermath of Origae-6 where Fassbender could appear as a Damaged Android and maybe a few Flash Backs with aid of CGI.

A kind of movie that would pick up from where RS would have taken the sequel to Alien Covenant, and so actually the 3rd planned Prequel that would tie to ALIEN and be set after the (on hold) Alien Covenant Sequel.   A title like Alien Awakening would suit a more direct Prequel to Alien to be honest.

I agree that in future their is scope to do other Franchise movies that can be set within the time-frame of Prometheus ==> Aliens.

 

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BigDaveAlien: Covenant ForumAlien BTS (Behind the scenes) pictures

Fingers Crossed.....

It would appear they had a finished or near finished draft, if they was intending to shoot the next movie this Summer.  It would appear they even had gone quite far with where they are going next as of the time of Covenants Release, i think the disappointing box office and criticism would have made them put plans on hold and rethink what went so wrong last summer.

Unfortunately with the Disney Take Over it appears the Project is on hold, indefinitely.  

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GuestAlien: Covenant ForumSuper Bowl Ad

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SuperAlienAlien: Covenant ForumAlien BTS (Behind the scenes) pictures

You're welcome, BigDave.

I hope Disney will take as soon as possible the brave decision of not following a Blomkamp style alien yet. The fanboys have plenty new shooting movies to watch each year. They can wait a little longer, Blomkamp as well.

Ridley Scott seemed eager to film the next Alien and they should allow him this one more before he starts with Merlin.

 

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dkAlien: Covenant Forum“Somebody’s covering their Ash,…”

The crossword puzzle- great find! "17 down- 5 letters, rhymes with witch. Hint- Ripley's address to the Alien Queen."

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IngenieroAlien: Covenant Forum“Somebody’s covering their Ash,…”

That's great Ati. Thank you for the images.

Drawing a face, half eaten donut...that scene is done well. In the book, Ripley said it would just be easier if she read what they wanted to hear while they read out loud what they wanted to say for the record to save time. So very easy to believe.

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Critters5Alien: Covenant ForumPrometheus Clues

Is the Merlin project a movie or a show? I think you are right that if would be given one film that would rush to the finish line. At least then we can start a fresh with a new director and direction. In future years perhaps someone can go back to the prequels and do something that fits in between (granted it doesn't need Fashbender or Niomi.)

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BigDaveAlien: Covenant ForumAlien BTS (Behind the scenes) pictures

Thanks for the Share ;)

I really do hope Disney pick up the Franchise, i think they are in for a hard time though, as the Fanbase has a very varied set of interests, where a Blomkamp Style Aliens kinda flick, wont please everyone and offer NOT much NEW, but then a RS Androids and AI Alien Covenant sequel, while offering something interesting would NOT please most fans.

So its going to take a Balancing Act, or some Brave Decisions that wont appease every fan... but i am sure we can all agree, they have to continue the Franchise ;)

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BigDaveAlien: Covenant ForumIngeniero got me thinking about the Juggernaut

Hammerhead Shark does look similar ;)

I will throw this in here ;)

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BigDaveAlien: Covenant ForumDerelict and Juggernaut - Searching for the Main Entrance

Indeed there are others too which seem to imply each Hanger holds ONE Juggernaught, but this does not rule out each Outpost/Temple complex having more than ONE Hanger.

Alien Covenant we have a similar sized Hanger, but the Concepts and Deleted Scenes reveal these are holding at least 3 more Juggernaughts.... they did not make it into the Movie and i think thats a great idea as it means the Hanger Layout we can now ASSUME is similar to those in Prometheus.

It also helps to make more sense to WHY David could not leave Planet 4, and also paints a picture of Planet 4 being more in line with the theory i have.

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BigDaveAlien: Covenant ForumPrometheus Clues

I am about in as much of the know as every one else on here ;)  I can only speculate really, and i think they are going to be in a state of limbo at the moment.  But i am sure when Ridley Scott sits down and talks to Disney about doing the Merlin Project which appears Disney hope will have a similar impact as the Lord of the Rings Trilogy and Hobbit by Peter Jackson.

If/When Ridley Scott is in talks with Disney i am sure if RS is accepted to Direct the Disney Merlin Project then he would maybe talk to them about the Alien Franchise, because you can bet that Ridley Scott feels like they FINALLY have got on track to giving Fans the Answers that lead up to the movie ALIEN and while this Project appears to be a TWO movie Prequels before we get to find out HOW/WHEN those Eggs get on the Derelict, with David involved in this PLOT/DIRECTION then RS would know that it would be hard to do these Prequels in 5-10 years because if David plays a Large role, then Androids should not Age and so for the whole Plot/Franchise to have any plausibility they dont want to end up casting a 45-50 year old Fassbender to play the role of a Android with the appearance of a 35-40 year old Fassbender.  Unless CGI is more practical and cheaper in 5-10 years.   While giving us very good results.

The other thing i think Ridley Scott would push is to capitalize on the 40th Anniversary of Alien in 2019 and looking at the Planned Shooting Date and Release for Alien Covenants Sequel it would have meant a release date of April... and so April 26th    as in 4/26/2019 USA format would be very good for marketing.

If Disney hear this off RS, i think they may be prepared to do something, but i feel RS will be pressured to make the movie a Direct Alien Prequel where the movies events would lead or at least leave the clues to how the Bio-Mechanical Xenomorph Eggs that lead to those on the Derelict are created.  I think Disney would want a movie where at the very End... Fans will know  What leads to those Eggs on the Derelict, which may mean the movie if it goes ahead would have to by-pass Ridley Scotts sequel plans unless he is given a 2.5 hour Run-time to play with.

The Set Up seems quite straight forwards though... and would require TWO movies.

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Critters5Alien: Covenant ForumPrometheus Clues

Bigdave, have you heard any news on the sequels actually going forward in the past week or so? 

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dkAlien: Covenant ForumIngeniero got me thinking about the Juggernaut

Ati That hammerhead- I see what you mean! Chris posted a picture that expands on that notion- thanks Chris:

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AtiAlien: Covenant ForumDerelict and Juggernaut - Searching for the Main Entrance

Thank you, BigDave, problem is solved!

I've found these official Prometheus concept works:

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/49Yrn

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BigDaveAlien ForumThe Oscar-Winner 'Call Me By Your Name' and Bill Paxton

Sounds a interesting Movie, total Respect for them doing it in Memory of Bill  R.I.P

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BigDaveAlien: Covenant ForumDerelict and Juggernaut - Searching for the Main Entrance

Its a interesting one, as indeed you can kind of make out what could be doors in the area you have referenced to.

I think HR Gigers idea was the Vaginal Like Openings to be the Entrance,  but Prometheus and then Alien Covenant showed us these must act as some kind of Exhaust/Ventilation System?  And these are located actually at the rear of the Ships.

I have used the image above to show where it appears the main entrance is, and this fits with Dr Shaw running down that long corridor as she was trying to escape from the Juggernaught, this is far to long/large to be inside the Juggernaught (but so is the Egg Silo in the Derelict).

The thing we get with the entrance at the rear, which is actually the front is the position and how the crew of Prometheus progressed to the Pilot Chamber must mean there was no direct route to the Center from the entrance and the routes to the left/right of the Pilot Chamber, will lead around through the Cargo Holds and Join up at the entrance, which is a very odd design but appears to be the actual design of the ship.

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AtiAlien ForumThe Oscar-Winner 'Call Me By Your Name' and Bill Paxton

The Arrival of Timothée Chalamet

'Every once in the rarest while, a young actor shows up

in a movie like an alien—anonymous and yet

in possession of such preternatural talent that

audiences start thinking about the actor’s future

not in years but in decades. Call Me by Your Name’s

Timothée Chalamet is just such an alien,

and just such a once-in-a-generation talent.'

Spring 2016. Somewhere in Northern Italy.

A 20-year-old from New York arrives six weeks before

the rest of a movie cast...

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You find the whole article here:

https://www.gq.com/story/timothee-chalamet-has-arrived?mbid=social_twitter

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BigDaveAlien: Covenant ForumXeno H.R Giger inspired flaccid Lightsaber

You can see the understanding behind it, every life form has midichlorians, its these that bind everything, it appears the higher the concentration of them the more Force Sensitive a Organism is, hence how Anakin was created, and how he was seen as the Chosen One...

I think Disney and  Rian Johnson had added a number of Morality Tails in the Last Jedi, from the notion that groups of wealthy people became so from dealing arms and manufacturing them for both sides.  To the freeing of those animals used for racing by Rose and FIN, right to the same Stables they was released from having the Stable Boy at the end in a hint that anyone can feel the Force... the same with the Rey Reveal.

I hope they change that for the next movie

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AtiAlien: Covenant ForumGateway Station and the Background Spaceships in Aliens

BigDave - My pleasure. Anderson's UFO and Space 1999 are my favs!

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BigDaveAlien: Covenant ForumPrometheus Clues

I actually enjoy the ambiguity, as i like to have movies challenge you to think, but for some its just too much of a investment of time, and i think they used a little bit too much ambiguity.

I agree that some of the things could have been done to show us a bit more Xenomorph DNA connection.  I can totally understand the  route Ridley Scott was going though which was a thought provoking kind of movie rather than a Action/Horror Flick.  The Problem is though as its set in the ALIEN universe a number of fans are going to expect more Alien Connections, and even though the Project started more closer to a Alien Prequel, it evolved into a loose Prequel that was set in the same universe, trying to offer a few clues but move onto something more different.

FOX/RS thought in Hindsight this was maybe a mistake and so we ended up with a more direct prequel to Alien with Alien Covenant, which would now draw closer to Alien with the sequels rather than further away.  And yet now a number of Fans are not pleased with that direction.

I hope they just have a Plan Now, and Screw the Fans, because you can never get to please them all, and just give us a Good set of sequels that are Coherent and connect the dots more and not keep changing direction every-time a movie gets some criticism etc.   I feel in hindsight they should have kept with what ever plans they had before bringing Harper and Logan on board.

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BigDaveAlien: Covenant ForumGateway Station and the Background Spaceships in Aliens

Thanks for the investigation ATI, i find the bit about the Terrahawks ships very interesting ;)

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AtiAlien: Covenant Forum“Somebody’s covering their Ash,…”

Ingeniero - As for the 'gem' you have found, it is awesome! :D

And there is another member who seems to be bored, too. I think he is drawing... a face.

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AtiAlien: Covenant Forum“Somebody’s covering their Ash,…”

Ingeniero - 'I hadn't thought of an angle like that regarding Dr. Shaw....I guess I'll take what I can get.'

Ok, let's imagine that Noomi Rapace is in the Alien Covenant sequel...

Then we have three possibilites:

- Shaw is alive, she's been hiding on Planet 4, she joins Walter...

B - Shaw returns as a clone...

C - Shaw returns as an android...

I don't like flashback scenes at all. In Alien there are no flashback scenes!!! In Aliens there are no flashback scenes!

So... yes... I'd vote for version A, without doubt!

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AtiAlien: Covenant ForumGateway Station and the Background Spaceships in Aliens

IRaptus - Thank you!

(The article was not created by me, the segments are taken from the original work!)

The same here. I was surprised to see that there are THREE spaceships in that short scene showing the Gateway Station. And all of them are moving...

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AtiAlien: Covenant ForumDerelict and Juggernaut - Searching for the Main Entrance

dk - If I'm not mistaken, in Prometheus they used the back door. And they say that the three holes where the Nostromo crew entered the Derelict are not entrances. So, yes, it's a confusing issue.

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V I N E T I C U MAlien: Covenant ForumThe Queen of Venus


HelloThoughts_Dreams.
I can understand that the characters are not enough, it would be a film not a TV series so everything becomes complicated to process it, we could see only the key characters in action, those who face the plot in the film, characters like Ledward who smokes and pollutes paradise is punished or Ankor who adjusts the sail with Tennessee and then the neomorph detaches the jaw, characters that almost do not count or we do not notice, but on their tremble only exist that we are superficial not to balance them.
The meaning of my speech is to reach a pattern where the characters get the right attention at the right time, if Tennesse is not enough maybe he was not required to translate the plot to unfold, he would not be served right now, Janek in Prometheus it would be fascinating to come into play when there is danger, but he has few scenes compared to Shaw not xkè not caraterrized enough, but receives attention only when requested.
Making films is too complex, to see a crew of 15 people is to put them in jeopardy one by one to also explain the plot and make sure that everything is intertwined, it would be a job as real experts.
As far as I've seen, Tennesse is in my opinion enough to be a secondary character, extra scenes show the link between the Tennessee couple and Karine with Branson and Daniels at the Last Supper.
I did not say that you are superficial, but personally I had to watch the film several times to realize the details, important or not, but inside the plot, to note at the ceremony of Branson the crew toasts, the Tennessee pour into the glass of Daniels the Whiskey Jack Daniels produced in Tennessee, a nice detail, in my opinion I really liked it.

 

"Au Revoir Shoshanna"

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Thoughts_DreamsAlien: Covenant ForumPrometheus Clues

That picture gives me the creeps, I don't know why.

As far as being too alieny, if you do an alien prequel then it should be more tied to it and not being too vague. To say that it is too alieny is to make a movie about Donald duck in his early years and then you show a relative to him and you complain that it looks too much like a duck, that is just bizarre to me. Either make it a prequel that is a bit closer to it or do not make it at all if it will be too ambiguous.

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