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I also think there is another element to that fear you mentioned.... After seeing one just once and seeing what they do, that would make me even more afraid of seeing one ever again. Physical abilities The adult Xenomorph is a living weapon, noted for its ferocity and deadliness in any condition. Once fully matured, they have great physical strength and agility. They are masters of stealth; a favored method of acquiring prey is to wait in a dormant state until an appropriate victim strays near, and then drop down silently from behind. The prey is generally blind to the fact that a xenomorph is present, due to its propensity to camouflage itself within its nest walls or the surrounding artificial environment given it's biomechanical appearance. Xenomorphs are shown to be able to take extreme amounts of physical damage that would kill any Earth lifeform. An example of this is the Queen in Aliens survived a multi ton exo-suit falling on her from 30+ feet. Xenomorphs are capable of surviving with limbs shot off as seen in AVP3 the game and Aliens. Even stabbings and shots through the head(though total decapitation kills them)as seen in Alien vs Predator and its sequel dont kill Xenos. Adult xenomorphs are quick and agile, and can run along ceilings and walls, a skill they exhibit freely whether they are evading others, attacking, or hunting. They can survive in extreme temperatures, are well-adapted to swimming, can respirate in harsh atmospheres, and can survive in vacuum for short lengths of time. Their movement tends to be silent, and they do not radiate heat as their exoskeletal temperature matches the ambient temperature. They also salivate profusely. This saliva is not acidic, though some xenomorphs do have the ability to spit acid, which may come from their stomachs or a special gland somewhere in their throats. This can be used to blind victims, much like a spitting cobra. The creatures possess no visible eyes; Giger mandated this in his original design, because he felt that it made the creatures much more frightening if one could not tell they were looking at them. In the original Alien film, the top of the creature's head was semi-transparent, with empty eye sockets of human appearance visible within. This element was dropped in later movies, but reused for the Predalien design, on the front portion of its skull. In Aliens, the adult creatures are lacking the smooth carapace covering their heads. In the commentary for Aliens, it was speculated that this was part of the maturation of the creatures, as they had been alive far longer than the original xenomorph. This maturation process involves the now adult xenomorph shedding the smooth dome-like plate covering its head, leaving the skin underneith to be exposed. In Alien³, a fisheye lens (which creates a perspective similar to that of a peephole) was used to depict the Xenomorph's sight. Whether this can be considered sight or just a filmed representation of the creatures' sensory perception is unknown. However, in the novelization of the movie Alien, the creature is held mesmerized by a spinning green light for several minutes. Due to the absence of clearly visible eyes, it is possible that the creature uses echolocation to see its environment, much like bats. It may be for this reason that Xenomorphs hiss almost constantly. Though it may have the ability to see through an unknown structure, as they evolved differently from life on Earth. In the 2010 Alien vs. Predator game, it is mentioned on one of the Marine audio tapes that Xenomorphs have vision. [b]Xenomorphs may be able to detect their 'prey' through electro-reception. This is the method sharks use to detect even the most hidden prey. Creatures with the electro-reception sense can detect the electromagnetic field all animals produce allowing them to detect the creatures heart beat. This would explain how xenomorphs always know where the humans are.[/b] [b]And as depicted in the Aliens vs. Predator games, the Xenomorphs can detect their prey using pheromones.[/b] Xenomorphs can also produce a thick, strong resin, which they use to build their hives and cocoon victims. Much like termites, they mix their viscous saliva with solids. It shows amazing heat and moisture-retaining qualities.

Me third..

as bishop stated, they are the perfect organism. hell hicks didnt even want to nerve gas them because he didnt know if that would even affect them. it seems the only thing that deters them is fire.

damn, dr pepper needs to kick in, i mean as ash stated lol

"dr pepper" ROL

Ridley's Alien is still really unknown. It's scary conceptually. It's smarter, and has unknown motivation. Cameron's Alien is more animal, still scary. I still argue the Xeno creature is not perfect, and not impossible to kill, but they are for sure in either vision, scary. They have scared me for years. They are very tough, but franky fall to well placed small arms fire... At least in Cameron's vision. Because of that I still think there is something worse, much worse. Something deeper than the Xeno creature we are used to, if it is somehow utilized as a weapon as is also described in Ridley commentary. If you remember in some of the Alien commentary by Ridley, an alternate ending was the alien killing Ripley and then using her voice on the com. I don't believe that was a better choice, but it does show, Ridley did not think of the Alien as an animal or bug. To the original poster - I agree.

Exactly ArchEtech...What I'm getting at here, and I approached it in other threads I started, is that Ridley understands all of what I've put down here and he's got something up his sleeve, something hidden between the lines encompassing that aesthetic that I believe will be beyond anything we can speculate here....something that will hopefully widen our eyes and broaden our smiles in exactly the same way.

[quote]If you remember in some of the Alien commentary by Ridley, an alternate ending was the alien killing Ripley and then using her voice on the com. I don't believe that was a better choice, but it does show, Ridley did not think of the Alien as an animal or bug. To the original poster - I agree.[/quote] Not Just Killing her... Attacking her in some sort of perverted way Then Biting her head off and then sitting down in her pilot seat and communicating with Earth in Her voice.

Well said craigamore, well said. I have been truely mesmerized by Alien since before I even saw it. I was born May 31, 1979 and that in it's own was a misfortune to not be able to see that movie when it came out; but I do conisder it an honour to have been born the year this movie was made. I remember the first time Alien entered my mind. I was 13 or 14 sitting in my parents basement, pouring over a stack of old National Geographics that my Grandfather had given us. In one was an artical about the filming and production of Alien. I was transfixed by what I read and the visuals they included with the story. I was in awe of the Space Jockey sitting in it's chair dead. I wish to this day that I had taken that particular magazine and kept it, cause it is long gone. I later that day tried to rent the film, but I was not old enough. I remember asking them (the movie store) if it would be alright to call my parents and get permission from thier phone, they agreed. With my parents giving them permission to rent it to me, I rode home on my bike excited to watch it. I got home and ran to the basement, turned on the TV and VCR and was in awe from start to finish. And from that day on I have been a fan. There is so much more to this story with the rental of Aliens and Alien 3, but I feel that maybe I will just save it for another day. But after reading craigamore's original post here, my obsession made total sence! So thanks for writing that. Spartacus thanks for your contirubution too, it sends shivers up my spine to read the list of traits and qualities that the Alien has. Absolutley fasinating and terrifying at the same time.

Shadowcaster....you and I, each in our own unique way, had pretty much the same journey and I'm glad I could impart those ideas for you. Thanks to everyone else as well...Spartacus, Rick, Ripley Clone 8, deadcell, ArchEtech and anyone else who happens to join us...glad I could share all of that with you.

I love this community..

Well I remember being 9 years old and seeing the trailer. (I was 9 when Alien was released). My older brother saw it the week it was released and told me the whole story. I was so excited by the story it even overtook my enthusiasm for Star Wars (just 2 years prior). When I finally saw it a few days later, I cannot even describe the feelings I had. This film changed my life at such a young age that I lost interest in Star Wars and by the time Return of the Jedi came out, I didn't even care about it anymore. This universe created by the film and the creature that inhabited it felt like the same world that "Space Oddity" was written about. That was my favorite song at the time. This film assaulted everything I knew (and lets face it, how much could a 9 year old really know?) at that time and formulated my future expectations of films. This movie had overt sexual overtones, grisly atmosphere , claustrophobic sets and a cold un-emotional cast. This film set the standard by which I judged everything that came after for me. I think we all connect with it because of the way it was realized. The feel, tonality, atmosphere, tension, unbearable darkness and grime all added to the most realistic view of how we can perceive the future and space travel. In closing, it wasn't so much the creature that scared me......it was the overall feeling of being alone in my tin can like Major Tom.

anxiously awaiting photo....:)

i know right! Photobucket is just NOT havin' it today....argh!

If I can be of any assistance please do let me know! I feel your pain.

thanx man, usually Photobucket is pretty quick about uploads, and it's PNG too! those tend to load the fastest. thanx for your offer how do you normally share a photo on here?

Yeah I got a photo of but can't attach it to a post. I see what you're talking about though. Pink kind of fleshy something or other in the platform of the star chart room. Who knows. I bet it's a light of some kind that fired up when David did something.

yes! Thank You Biomech! that IS the one! so i am not alone in thinking it looks like organic / brain tissue! me at Spartacus thank thee!

not big enough for me... is the original bigger and if so can you please link to the original sized image in photobucket for me ? sorry to impose but I cannot make out what you mean form that image well enough to be honest in my discussion with you. and I am in high res on a real good acer monitor btw.

do you mean the sprinkly stuff and the pads at the bottom of the screen that look like lights?

yes, the stuff that looks like chewed up pink bubble gum. i feel you on the hi-rez issue Spartacus, the image i was attempting to upload was hi-rez, and i added arrows indicating the pink matter but the image that Biomech uploaded is hi-rez too, and clearly shows what compelled me to start this post initially but yes, that IS the stuff.....

I guess it could be brain matter... nice, tx Biomechanic. Somebody call Owens-Corning and The Pink Panther! [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v234/LT.HIGHTIMES/1a1ppa.jpg[/img]

THANK YOU for the Picturepush post and info Biomech! i will check them out and hopefully use them rather than Photobucket, since my angst towards Photobucket pretty much highjacked the purpose of this thread argh! in any case, we can all somewhat concur that the pink looking matter looks a bit like brain tissue yes...?

Ok thanks Biomechanic I installed the Firefox plug in and zoomed in 200 and then 400 %. What I have to say about it is this. It's an awesome thought, but magnified like that it all looks like dust and light particles to me. Am I just old? [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v234/LT.HIGHTIMES/avery.jpg[/img]

you mean yes I am just Old?

@Spartacus: ha! i was thinking of those classic Pink Panther ads for fiberglass when i was typing out this post. glad i am not alone in remembering that.....

lmao you guys

O.K. O.K. the only other thing it could be other than dust, light, or brain tissue, is moisture, titanium sparking, or plasma discharge. LOL

didn't some one say a long time, like 3 months ago or something that it looks too much like one of the Prometheus crew ?

Not at all my friend...not at all. Ridley Scott has only three forays into sci-fi in his career. 'Alien', 'Bladerunner', and the 1984 Apple Computers super bowl commercial '1984' (considered, literally, to be the 'Citizen Kane' of commercials). They are all classics I have no probelm calling masterpieces, each in its own regard. I have absolute faith in what he will give us....for further elaboration as to why....check out my thread entitled 'Something Special'. I think it adequetly sums up and supports my position in this regard.

Agree with some of this. I liked the SpaceJockey having "grown out of the chair": bio-ship is an organism & it grows it's pilot, or a pilot grows the ship :) it just looks so mysterious, bizarre, and is very ... alien, with more body horror. Don't like the "it's a suit" idea. perhaps a halfway house is that the SJ grows into the ship or vica versa. The rest, i'm more excited to see this film than not. Hopefully it won't be a simple 'setup' of the alien derelict, and i am excited to see what ideas they come up with. Perhaps having enjoyed 33 years of SJ mystery is enough :)

I like what you wrote Golic but I still feel a strong sense of faith in the man with regard to the material at hand. I don't feel, with all due respect, that he will deliver a product which just won't live up to the hype.

I hear you, I read your post earlier. Not that the film compares with at all or will compare, but do you remember in Star Wars Episode 1 when they revealed the midichloreans (spelling) ? I just don't need that kind of moment in this film. And I really do want to emphasize I'm have been obsessing over this film since I first starting seeing leaked photos over the summer. My friends are getting kind of annoyed actually. If this film doesn't deliver I'm going to swear off movies and move to a mountain and live in a tree. Alien is with out a doubt my favorite favorite film... ever.

I get ya man, and I agree, I don't even want to consider it's a possibility though.

And yeah maybe the use of the word "hype" is a little much. Scott has delivered some fantastic stuff. Guess I don't want to get my hopes up. That's all. I do have a feeling that we're only seeing the tip of the iceberg in the trailer. June couldn't feel further away.

believe [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v234/LT.HIGHTIMES/randysweats.gif[/img]

Ha

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