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***Please Note: Vulgarity Contained*** Right now anything is possible to theorize one way or the other, it's your free will to do so. To use references other than what is actually in the movie ALIEN and the teasers could be futile. Now if you were at Comic-Con or viewed the footage shown there, and you saw something never scene in any of the leaked footage, then by all means enlighten us, But to be rude/condescending to others based on your unsubstantiated opinion is asinine. RS has said small overlooked things play a big role in this film. The film has some of the ALIEN dna. Play on words maybe, but to what extent we don't fucking know. So, how about some of us remove our self righteous heads out of our arses, and keep the fanboy bitchiness to ourselves. Please keep this site/forums fun for most =))

Frankly, if the plot of this movie involves any kind of "infection" scenario, I personally believe it would be a missed opportunity, if one of the victims [i]isn't[/i] an android. Go figure.

Well, if a bio-mechanical suit is bio enough, it would fossilize after a serious amount of time, under the condition of a wet atmosphere and some minerals line calcium.

Not sure a new thread was needed but... In the original script there was also an alien fossilized, standing in a corner, that crew don't see.That quote by Dallas "Looks fossilized" was always a nod to the audience to explain the fact that the Jockey had been there for a very long time.I just don't get why else it would be in the script?I mean he doesn't say "Looks fossilized, but it might be this crazy LV426 atmosphere and it probably has only been here a couple of decades."The whole point on him saying "fossilized" was to give the impression it was very,very old - imho of course. So even if Dallas was wrong about the SJ, it is still obvious the writers wanted to give the audience the impression that it was very, very old as the other creature is fossilized too. From the original script: [b]Dallas gets up. They stand for a moment... Then move away from the rock formation. Fossilized into the other side of the rock is a shape. Fifteen feet tall. Unseen by the members of the party.[/b] Rewatching the scene it is actually -" looks like it's been dead awhile, fossilized."

Didn't Dallas say that the suit looked like it was growing out of the chair?

Your not the only one that sees it, I think it's just that alot of us think it's a real bummer and a let down that a) Its a bloody suit! and b) it isn't a fossilised, very ancient skeleton of a long dead creature, whos "ribcage" had been ripped apart by a chestburster.

Dallas also said that it looked like it had grown out of the chair - whether he meant it looked like it "outgrew" the chair or had literally been grown from the chair is anyone's guess. Regardless, whatever Ridley's reasonings were behind the thing in the original movie have changed. So maybe back when he did Alien this was it's true form, I doubt he gave the backstory much thought back then, but now he's going to explain it and in doing so he's changed some stuff and now it's a suit. Simple as that..

There is no fossilization in the space of 30 years, the suits and the Jockey are identical. I get that for 33 years we have all held to this fossilization, as have I but Ridley has changed it - compare the Jockey and the suits/statues and look at Ridleys statement.

Good to see I'm not the only one who gets this...

Interesting. Dallas states "looks fossilized” perhaps LV426's primordial atmosphere affected the bio mechanical suit/creature in a strange way creating the look of fossilization.

Thats it, it just caused the suit to fade, which we and Dallas mistook as a fossil

Not buying it, but after all, it's been a long time since Alien. I'm not expecting to see Apple ][ graphics, nor do I expect an answer to all the riddles of Alien. Going into hibernation till opening day. This is Knorbuffel, signing off.

nothing to buy, it is what it is, Ridley changed it not me, I'm just pointing it out

Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria!

I agree, when I first clicked it was a case of WTF, but we were all wrong all that time now that Ridley has changed it

absolte cracker, biomech...was pissing myself, everyone just take a deep breath.... and release!!

AND PARKER, {I KEEP INSISTING RICK}, DID IN FACT BREAK WIND AFTER SIPPING HIS COFFEE IN "ALIEN". RIDLEY SCOTT DID IN FACT DELIBERATELY LEAVE THIS IN THE THEATRICAL VERSION/RELEASE OF THE FILM. IT'S NICE TO KNOW THE FACTS ISN'T IT?

Tying his two films into a neat little bow, by making the ship in Prometheus end up as the derelict from "Alien" would be too clever by half, IMO. I'm expecting a bit more than the usual all-too predictable Hollywood nonsense from this movie.

the thing that's getting to me the most about just about ALL OF YOU, IS THIS COMPLETE LACK OF FAITH IN AND OF ANY UNDERSTANDING OF RIDLEY SCOTT HIMSELF or how he most righteously rolls !!!

rolls spartacus cheese rolls, rolls royce , rolls on the floor laughing ? rules

LMAO, I could have said "roles" and it would have worked perfectly too !!! Maybe even better. It just flat out seems to me that what everyone keeps missing is this...This will not just be an "EPIC" film...it will be an "EPIC" film created by an "EPIC" film maker and his "EPIC" little "droogie" none other The Distinguished Mr. H R Giger. It's NOT just an "EPIC" film. It is also something that will happen maybe this ONCE in all of our lifetimes! Just Like Muhammed Ali, who incidentally turned 70 today, and was "EPIC" ! These things happen ONLY once.................... ..................................................If we're LUCKY.

We thought it was fossilized. Its got to stop. we were wrong, so wrong. we are so sorry XD

@ Spartacus..Well i'm in agreement i think whatever happens it will be a very good film hopefully a great instant classic but i cant imagine it being bad but the trouble is and i'm as guilty as everyone else we are all putting this film on a pedestal that's going to be hard for any film maker to live up to . I just know Ridley's no fool and wants to do the best he can with any project he engages in but as stated before you can't please everyone all of the time . I just hope the film is intelligent, well written, and entertaining i have more Ridley films in my film collection then any other director and unlike some i feel none of his films are what i term bad some are much better than others but none are truly terrible. I never bought a good year though wasn't my thing but its not awful its watchable that's it. Besides not all projects are deemed classic material and i don't think films should be made with that kind of expectation but when you raise the bar in some genres it tends to be expected for all.

LOL I have complete faith in Ridley and I expect not only the film but the story to be incredible in an unexpected way. Perhaps the SJ in the original Alien is thousands of years old and the action in the trailer happens else where and only leads the Promethius to LV426 for a totally different reason. We will have to wait and see......

I hope you do not psyche yourself out and lose the ability to just sit still and absorb what you are about to see!!!

It's a suit that looks fossilised; much like that Halloween skeleton suit, which looks like a skeleton, but isn't a skeleton... it's a suit. This wasn't the thinking for the last thirty years but [i]is[/i] now because Ridley has said it - not Jeunet, Anderson or the frigging brothers Strausse - but by God himself. God's law my brothers, written in stone.

There's a good reason why the SJ might be fossilized. The derelict ship crashes on a planet with a moist atmosphere and has greenery, as seen in Prometheus trailer. In Alien, LV426 is a dark and lifeless atmosphere. When comparing the two atmospheres, it would imply millenia would have passed. This also could mean LV426 was an SJ terraforming project of theirs gone awry. Of course this would mean there's a worm hole of some kind, throwing us back into the past. Also, look at the interior of the SJ command post. In Alien the interior walls were boney and in Prometheus it is new, smooth and metalic, but still in keeping with the original boney pattern. Keep in mind that this technology is biomechanical and the ship's structure can grow or change. I personally think the mechanical structure turns biological with time, hence the boney appearance.

"Alien" was pretty damned epic in terms of art design and direction. The cast was really talented, but the script didn't allow for much in the way of fleshing-out the victims before they were eviscerated.....or cocooned. I mean, come on, [i]Ash[/i] is the most interesting character on the ship! The movie worked in spite of that, certainly not because of it, and writing is what I have some concerns about with this installment. The plot and story could be shockingly unexpected and original.....or Hollywood-predictable. I do really like the sequence of the SJ ship falling, crashing into and rolling across the ground. It's unpredictably, completely unrealistic, relative to what we should expect, and an effective way of demonstrating that the SJs possess technology[i] far[/i] beyond our understanding. On the other hand, if the SJ ship in Alien and Prometheus ended up being one and the same, I think it would simply be just a bit [i]too[/i] neat.........."picky-picky" I know. p

Hey guys, I might be completely behind on PROMETHEUS news but, what about the recent photos of latex Space Jockey masks or prosthetic appliances? If those are the real thing…then the Space Jockey beings in this film will have flesh…of some kind. The SJ “suit” could just be an outer exo-skeletal shell with fleshy components. The suit may still be alive…in a symbiosis with the wearer…as I’ve already heard discussed in length on these forums. The “Alien” itself had an exoskeleton and a form flesh and tissue…like an insect. Ergo, the SJ in the original ALIEN might actually BE…a dead fossilized biomechanical suit, with an equally dead “Engineer” wearer, with a burst ribcage. The new photos are so shadowed, that they don’t reveal much in detail…just the general SJ shape that we’re all familiar with. What do you think…yes…no? ~N

sounds Feasible enough to me ask walter he will give you his superior opinion lol

I wonder if Weylan corp has some sort of genetics program that went bad and now there sending another set of expendable crew to assist in their observing and laughing project..

not really digging that theory dude.

Interesting scenario.

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Wouldn't that make shaw a chicken

Yes

Wait by that logic all things that lay eggs are chickens. She is more like a Platypus then.

LOL, sorry Brego but this idea has been posted TOO many times, check the previous threads in future yeah.

Yup, just a theory... Lets face it we are dealing with organisms which obviously do not stick with our known Biological theories. Re giving birth to an egg, it could be some form of embryonic creature which we have not seen yet and would be totally original. I think Ridley will be looking at providing us with something totally left field and crazy, just as the parasitic biology of the original Alien was to us in the 70's...

In my incoherent hyperbole I related to Giger's Alien designs so you have to at least take your ideas one step further and two steps more controversial than the previous similar topic. Those are the rules. Hint: Add a bit about Shaw being of Royal English blood and how they are known to be of the lizard race