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The crew's helmets are off in the ampule room. So either the room IS on the engineers homeworld and they pipe in oxygen (the rest of the shots of the new world have helmets) or the ampule room is on earth. more than likely that scene is a "discovery and investigation" that happens on earth. Also - why would a highly advanced species that's mastered space travel mate with ancient human women? That would be a little like us going back in time and mating with neanderthal women. Besides the obvious physical dissimilarity that would cause there to be no attraction - this ignores the broader point that mating with a lesser organism would actually make the offspring "less than" an offspring from mating with a more evolved peer. Humans of today are much larger, smarter, etc. than our caveman/neanderthal interbreeding ancestors... Aliens who are smart enough to travel near or faster than the speed of light wouldn't make that mistake.

No Apollo - A movie is generaly split into three acts - the third act being the final one - The films finale, or climax.

Well thanks for that. Makes me feal a tad stupid but watching movies all my life here in England i never hear or Acts . We have Acts in a book or Theatre but i get it. Thanks for the info there.

Doesn't the first Alien have 4 acts??

RIDLEY SCOTT WROTE A "FINAL ACT" FOR THE FILM THAT THE STUDIOS WOULD NOT LET HIM SHOOT DESPITE HIS INSISTENCE. IN IT...WEAVER'S HEAD GETS BITTEN OFF BY THE XENOMORPH, WHICH THEN SITS DOWN IN HER COMMAND CHAIR AND COMMUNICATES IN HER VOICE WITH "THE COMPANY" ON EARTH.

It would seem that there was an earlier expedition or crew based on his character description I just don't know the chronology of his arrival on the planet and how the Space Jockey's got a hold of him. That in itself would make for a great story!

Yeah....they are stranded there until the Magellan arrives and try to take over the ship to get the heck out there...the crew stumbles upon Patrick Wilson who us the experiment for the Humanoids...only, we dont know what they are doing to this poor guy...perhaps the template for the Alien we know and love...

My thoughts on this is; what if the SJ created the Alien by mistake. I see a lot of assumptions that they are creating a weapon, but this flies against the logic that if they are seeding worlds in an attempt to create intelligent life, why create a weapon to destroy the life you worked so hard to create? My theory is the "goo" was supposed to be used on a primordial planet (ancient Earth?) to spark the foundation of life that through millennium of evolution would leads to humans. But what if the "goo" was used on life that had already evolved. Would some perverse new life-form then be created? The basis for my theory is the SJ in Alien was obviously killed by a chest burster. This would seem more likely if it was infected by an accidental experiment gone wrong than by a deliberate creation of a weapon. Just a thought.

goo=primordial ooze? that's a theory i can buy. your last point makes a lot of sense as well. however on your first point, there's nothing to indicate that creatures capable of creation aren't capable of destruction. we know this to be the nature of many organisms. the space jockeys may have just taken this to grander scales as a result of their advanced technology. it may be part of an unknown agenda as well. maybe they use them on failed experiments.

I read that in England, a scientist created a super strain of a flu..why, who knows maybe to see what he can make perhaps....maybe the humanoids did it by accident and thus, they killed themselves in the process....with their race and this all they have left..until we arrive and screw everything up...

Yes, but you both are missing the point. The scientist that created that super strain of a flu did not create the lifeforms that the flu will affect. It flies against logic to destroy what you create. We are all talking about "maybes" here. True there is nothing to indicate that the creatures are not capable of destruction, but there is also nothing to indicate that destruction is their driving force either. I did mention it is a theory.

i think they will lean more to the cocooned dallas of Alien , because was a great idea , scary as hell and not used . I agree then that the cocooned man can be the base "food" for the first alien to born

I remember reading the Dean Foster book that had the Dallas cocooned scene in it. I thought is was really awesome and scary, but it was just as exciting to watch the movie and always wonder what happened to him.

I previously posted a theory that maybe the Space Jockeys created the Alien as a means of creating artificial extinction events, to encourage the evolution of intelligent life... Our planet has had numerous extinction events in its lifetime. Each time one occurs the surviving forms of life have to adapt, evolve to their radically changed environment, ecosystem and food chain. With enough jolts to the evolution of a certain species, in our case mammals, the chances of an intelligent life form evolving (like us) is increased.

I read your theory, but I find it more frightening if it was an accident versus intentional. If it is intentional then that leaves the possibility that the SJs can "control" it. If it is an accident then even the SJs don't know what to expect. Again to me that is more terrifying, that fear of the unknown.

can be rakkasan ..maybe hes in a deep hole forgot by the SJs... much depend how much the space jockeys are a living race , a dead race , a dyng race ...

Creating something they think they control but can not...frightening.

r.e. "artificial extinction events", this is like the superpredator theory, which claims that Earth has already had extinctions caused by super predators which overwhelm their environment and then quickly go extinct themselves through feedback, This is an ecologists type theory which claims Humans themselves are for real the latest superpredator, and that our ecological damage will kill us off. Superpredator theory goes hand in hand with the Gaia hypothesis which states that the biosphere accumulates symbiosis over the long-run - because only creatures which behave symbiotically (keeping their own numbers down to avoid draining their own food supply, or recycling other waste products) have a long term future. my own theory (i've posted) is that the SJ's manipulate environments to seed them for later harvesting, hence technology LIKE the aliens which can take over existing biomass. And they have a strong incentive because of the effects of space travel, where symbioses within one connected system no longer apply. it's been hinted we won't see alien itself but other scary things along the same lines, sharing the same DNA.

An artificial superpredator, deployed to cause such events, yes... Once all the suitable hosts have been "used" the Aliens would die and only the eggs would remain, to be picked up and deployed on another primitive world. Of course once an Intelligent race (such as ourselves) evolves, that planet would no longer such measures.

Speak for yourself . I am not so sure I am so intelligent anymore after reading everyone's theories here...I am Old, Sleepy, and soon to be institutionalized from acute Prometheus withdrawl symptoms [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v234/LT.HIGHTIMES/CUKO.jpg[/img]

thats gonna be a long long line.... lol

I've said it before, but Scott's original plan was for the crew of the Nostromo to transform into alien eggs via mutation of DNA. If that was the case, there were soooo many in the derelict. Now, Scott never said that the alien life cycle in Aliens was defacto with his vision. I'm still under the belief that he's sticking with his original plan, that a majority of this movie will lack xenomorphs as we know them, and as a result of meddling with the goo, WE create the xenomorph accidentally, and that David may be a key factor. Assuming that is true, remember the derelict had thousands of eggs (most of which appear opened already), meaning there would have to be thousands of people that are transformed (enter Magellon), which maybe came first? Or possibly the ampules are transformed into the eggs, this all presupposes that Scott is following his original plan. Furthermore, if he's going the way of the rest of the franchise, there has to be a queen...

Hey..we have 6 months of theories and many more longer cut trailers to see until the movie comes out...who will come close with theory should win a prize or something.

At least a "Prometheus" T-Shirt or something !!!

Agreed! I'm an artist, 6 months is ample time to whip up a really cool painting... actually, as soon as I get to a scanner I'll post the tattoo I designed for my left leg. It's amazing how the knee naturally looks like the back of a facehugger (hint hint).

Does not and will not upset me in the least if their are none, might even be better without them, but I also think their is NO DOUBT given this is a Scott/Giger project that we will see something, some creature, just as if not far more Terrifying than the original "Murderous Theif"..."The Internecivus Raptus".

Yeah..I think we are going to see something far more sinister and darker than we could of imagined....and this film is going to be dark in tone and one hell of a ride..I dont think that I will be able to sleep after watching this film, lol.

You stated it yourself "Scott is distancing himself away from Cameron and the other film makers responsible for the later films". The only thing that appeared in Alien, but not the subsequent sequels was the Space Jockey.

"alot of people" upset that they won't see xenos? where? this thread seems totally unnecessary. not to mention you post a bunch of self comforting tripe about how it'll be even darker and more sinister. that may well be, but you're just making assumptions, same as the people who believe this to be a xeno movie. it may very well not be compatible with any of our assumptions at this point.

My first introduction into the Alien universe was when I was about 8. That was 1981. I was at a yard sale and I found some "baseball" cards that had scenes from the movie on the front and a little synopsis of the scene on the back. Some of the cards had pieces of a picture on the back like a puzzle that when put together formed a picture of the SJ. I also got a copy of Cinemafantastique (sp?) magazine that was a special Alien production issue. I begged my dad to buy them for me which he did (he was also a fan of the movie). Since I had never seen the movie (I was too young and VCRs weren't really around yet), I had to wait a few years and it was shown on TV (about the time Aliens came out in theaters). I begged my dad to let me watch it, which he did. I made it all the was to the point where the Alien burst out of Kane's chest then ran to my room and watched the rest of the movie from behind the couch. None of the other films (good/bad/indifferent) have made me feel that scared and thrilled at the same time. My point is if this new film does that, then I do not care if I see an Alien. It was the thrill of the movie that made it memorable for me.

The other people I meant was in other forums on various sites...and yes, I am making assumptions as everyone else does but in truth, like many of you, I have no clue what scott is going to throw my way...fact is Scott is straying away from the other films and keeping to this one and Alien... Scott hinted this to be a dark story...thats what I mean by sinister...nothing more. It's Scott's universe, I am just along for the ride...

Scott has said that we will see something that is familiar to the original but much bigger and do very peverse things ....... the original leaked trailer also has some hints at something shooting from an egg or hole, snake or tenticle like ........... I don't think we will be dissapointed with the creature in the film :))

Sorry if I insert myself in the forum: I'm new and I send greetings to all. I tell you, as a great fan of the series "Alien" by R. Scott, who despite several decades have elapsed from the first original TRUE Alien, I am optimistic for the prequel to the series. I think Scott has hit the shot again, and my instinct tells me that we will see the results ...

sorry I didn't say something sooner Caine1977 ... Walterhiller, I am just butting in here to say there have been a lot... I have noticed them as well.... over the course of the last 6 months here on these boards and in various threads. Also, it seems t me you might have been a bit rough there when you said to Caine1977... "you post a bunch of self comforting tripe about how it'll be even darker and more sinister". But Scott has inferred this himself ! & on the 3 teaser trailers he just released as well, he mentions how much more terrible the things are that are dine in this film than what he has done in the past and on the third one I think he is adamant about how "some little things are going to do some great big terrible things". I do not think it is "self comforting" at all to expect the best from, Ridley Scott or to trust him to know what scares people in films, do you have a film to show us that you made that could better help me to understand what you mean by that? What is it that you have against him and all of this?

I agree with many of the comments above. I for one am actually more excited by the prospect of an "offshoot" of the alien universe as described by Ridley Scott saying 'no xenomorphs'. His statement that this specific creature has lost shock value is probably accurate. We don't need to passively watch it chase more people down corridors - we can enjoy this 1st hand in video games; and we certainly don't want to see the Xenomorph 'corrupted' again like in Alien Ressurection. The iconic Alien has proved 'perfect' in it's entertainment role and got to a stage where sequels can't improve or add more. The opportunity for new 'hard-sci-fi' ideas in an offshoot his hugely exciting. alien - ultimate horror-movie in-sci fi setting aliens - ultimate action-movie in sci-fi setting then prometheus, ultimate 'hard-sci-fi' movie (like a dark 2001) Infact after reading those comments I was almost a slightly disappointed* to see the trailer looking "a lot like alien".. *well, more like excitement down to 99% as opposed to 100%. If Alien was frightening.. and a hoard of them was thrilling ... think what could be done with the species that engineered it ! Mind boggling stuff. It MUST prominently feature Geiger art style though. I was a bit worried to read 'another production designer' somewhere. Other sci-fis want to do Geiger art and we always say "hah thats a rip off of alien" when we see it, but the one place it is definitely in-context, and very welcome would be here..

@Cain1977: GREAT POST! (insert standing ovation here) seriously. Great post. @Walterchiller: what island have you been living on? i've read all too many times that folks are "upset" at the idea that Scott will most likely stay away from the ABSOLUTE MESS Cameron made with the um "Xenos" if you want to read pointless "self-comforting" drivel, just read your own post.

what time?

9 P.M. eastern standard time tonight !

2am UK time then?

that makes good sense to me "Snorkle" is it 6 hours the time "diff" between London and Montreal ?