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yes.. very ambiguously enigmatic..

See Magellen makes sense if it's designed as an exploratory vessel with the intention of returning with something or securing something, much like the name Prometheus , though it has the added connotation of taking a faster route. You could still argue it's simply an additional vessel of Prometheus, but then it would seem like it's the part intended to return (the whole circumnavigation bit). This is just my speculation but maybe it is a completely military-owned Yutani vessel sent afterwards that somehow arrives shortly after the Prometheus at the destination. A vessel sent out to find a faster route to the alien world for it's "kingdom" or section of the world/multinational corporation to secure and exploit. Maybe one side's greed is what causes the other more scientifically oriented side to suffer. And some are able to escape on the Magellen. Leaving others to be blamed. Someone mentioned the stuff about how Weylan-Yutani was originally supposed to give the idea of a merger between an old English name and Japan, who now put's out high end ships in the future instead of cars and electronics. oh and in that one post I said USS but really that's only what's on the ships in Aliens. It's tied into to the US expansion into space with a few of the multinationals behind them imo though. Meaning W-Y by that time are directly working with USCMS (United States Colonial Marine Services), which is a designation given to the Nostromo in Alien. it's been a long time but if I recall correctly the merger potentially happens before the forming of the United Americas... United Americas is set up in 2104 (you'll find it in the banned history section of the link) and leads to the allied worlds, but other sources tell us there are still rival powers once humans get out in space. The US remains in charge of a lot out in space. Possibly explaining why Weyland might be so obsessed with acquiring bio-weapons. http://time.absoluteavp.com/index.html

See Magellen makes sense if it's designed as an exploratory vessel with the intention of returning with something or securing something, much like the name Prometheus , though it has the added connotation of taking a faster route. You could still argue it's simply an additional vessel of Prometheus, but then it would seem like it's the part intended to return (the whole circumnavigation bit). This is just my speculation but maybe it is a completely military-owned Yutani vessel sent afterwards that somehow arrives shortly after the Prometheus at the destination. A vessel sent out to find a faster route to the alien world for it's "kingdom" or section of the world/multinational corporation to secure and exploit. Maybe one side's greed is what causes the other more scientifically oriented side to suffer. And some are able to escape on the Magellen. Leaving others to be blamed. Someone recently mentioned the stuff about how Weylan-Yutani was originally supposed to give the idea of a merger between an old English name and Japan, who now puts out high end ships in the future instead of cars and electronics. oh and in that one post I said USS but really that's only what's on the ships in Aliens. It's tied into to the US expansion into space with a few of the multinationals behind them imo though. Meaning W-Y by that time are directly working with USCMS (United States Colonial Marine Services), which is a designation given to the Nostromo in Alien. it's been a long time but if I recall correctly the merger potentially happens before the forming of the United Americas... United Americas is set up in 2104 (you'll find it in the banned history section of the link) and leads to the allied worlds, but other sources tell us there are still rival powers once humans get out in space. The US remains in charge of a lot, but not everything, out in space. Possibly explaining why Weyland might be so obsessed with acquiring bio-weapons. http://time.absoluteavp.com/index.html

Does anyone know at what point in the franchise did the companies merge? We know that Prometheus is set 30 years before the events in Alien, so if the companies merged before that then WY could appear in Prometheus.

check through the link at the end of my last post. That's where I'm refreshing my knowledge on the major powers from.

I gues that's maybe Canon still to be established? I mean there's the comics and the Alien Wiki, but a lot of info comes from there and that really constitutes comic canon as opposed to film canon which at this point seems to be completely different. I guess if you take the AVP films as canon then the companies were definitely around and large by the early 21st century.

Thus they may not yet have merged in Prometheus, IMO (lol) (See Prometheus/Alien tie in thread)

Here is all I can logically add to this discussion.... The name "Weylan-Yutani"was created by Ron Cobb, one of the designers of the Nostromo and its crew's uniforms. Weylan Yutani for instance is almost a joke, but not quite.... Here in his own words is how Mr. Cobb came up with it... "I wanted to imply that poor old England is back on its feet and has united with the Japanese, who have taken over the building of spaceships the same way they have now with cars and supertankers. In coming up with a strange company name I thought of British Leyland and Toyota, but we couldn't use "Leyland-Toyota" in the film. Changing one letter gave me "Weylan," and "Yutani" was a Japanese neighbor of mine. "

I do think someone at fox gave them the go ahead to use some of the cannon that went out in the EU and Marine handbooks and stuff. At least for Alien 3, as you see mentions of the groups in a couple scripts. So with Fox's involvement, and the company in it's earlier stages we may just see some of that. As it would firmly set this in that universe, but still allow for a stand alone story where the average viewer might not notice all the company connections since there are different monsters, different characters and no typical xenos, at least until much later in the movie if classic xenos are in.

Don't you guys see what I mean?...from what I posted there were Never two companys that murged, we all just assumed that, it was One Company with a funky Made Up company name to begin with to make it sound that way.

Yeah thats right Spart' Its AVP 1 and 2 that has seperate companies

yeah, from the pre AVP continuity it would have seemed like it was always "the company" were weyland and yutani were partners, it was the AVP films that established separate companies. That's if we include them as canon. Personally I think that those are a separate universe with the same characters, in fact (Purely IMO) they have more in common with comic continuity because at the end of the day they were"(by popular request" films due to the success of the comic series. I would discount them completely to be honest until we know what new canon will be established. for all we know (Groundless Speculation alert!) they could be the same corp by this stage (or always) but with Weyland being say an aerospace/weapons division (W with wings) and Yutani being a scientific division.

Arghhh its Y with wings IMO lol. Tec-B is right though, this idea of a merger comes from popular speculation and the AVP films, which may or may not be canon, although I believe they are. The comics are an "extended universe" that is not canon, but still came up with some good ideas such as the Royal Jelly. Regards whether the merger idea is valid or not remains to be seen and may or may not be answered in Prometheus, but I do like the idea that we came to - of the two separate companies working with/against each other to discover the secrets to humanities beginnings.

My take is that the weylan-yutani "joke" is a very dark one. To clarify I'm predicting we see the pieces start to fall into place for the merger and never get the full merger within this film. I am pretty sure in all of Ridley's years of occasionally commenting on wanting to explore the space jockey's origins that he also at one point mentions how it was in fact just the Weylan company at one point. IMO this is his baby, and all the misdirection is just to ensure we are totally surprised by what we see. What I took from the combined name thing was that they wanted to create a name that would evoke the merging of two world powers to represent the coming together of some of the world nations under the corporations, Hence an English sounding name + a Japanese one and then the hints to the American military industrial complex presence in space and full out appearance when Cameron takes over in Aliens. Ridley seems to like to convey the idea that all-powerful corporations will rule us and do terrible things in the future. Heck people already think it's happening right now. Perhaps this is the jumping off point from which all the other expanded stuff is derived. I still see it as a joke because he based it on the real name of something British and combined it with a Japanese name and they had to change the first part 'cause it was something really from Great Britain. So two of the worlds most powerful kingdoms coming together, or two huge corporations coming together. Regardless I think it is supposed to mirror the creator's and Ridley's fear about multinationals taking over even back in the 1970's. Part of why we get hints that the company's evil but it's usually only from Ripley's perspective (she's the only one who sees who they truly serve and repeatedly accuses them of trying to acquire it for weapons). It's supposed to be like a heartless multinational corporation, not adhering to the same laws in every country, and then in space there are no laws. Only the competitors and shares to keep the whole machine going. It's all there with the Japanese bringing the advanced spacecrafts to the table. Of course that's just my opinion, like I said all the stuff about the multinationals ruling Earth at one point could just spring from that.

An idea that was continued in Firefly/Serenity, the meeting of east and west, or as Muse put it the United States of Eurasia.

Not surprising considering this is a prequel and not a sequel. From what Fox said, if Prometheus is a success they will most likely expand further and make a series and then maybe in later films we as an audience will discover how the unity of Weyland and Yutani began.

Very Nice :), enjoyed the read.

yup, was very good :)

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Very interesting read. Cheers.

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I can't wait to watch the trailer..

Trailer v6? Interesting.

I can't wait! Been a huge Alien fan for years and I'm so pumped this!

Be interesting to see if they've cleaned up the grammatical errors and added anything new from the leaked version *whoop-whoop!*

haha, I only wish. But Fox..you have to admit they are doing a really good job containing a majority of the material. Every little image, trailer, synopsis they take down. There not lazy about it which means they really care about the project. Can't wait. From that little crappy quality I saw on Bing it looks incredible already. :)

The last picture you have posted could explain the egg partly being buried in the picture with the egg / rock on the floor to the right of David, where he is holding the camp bag.....

good find! very interesting if the urns contain living beings!

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Alien just changed everything to be honest, there had literally never been anything like it before, it pioneered believibility in setting, the dirty future idea, the space truckers idea, it just made scifi way more believable. and the creature itself? finally clued hollywood into the fact that your bog standard guy in a rubber suit doesn't cut it

i had just turned 10 in May of '79 and was on my way to a Little League game when my father was talking to my mother about some Sci Fi movie a friend at work had seen and said it was scary as hell and a alien came out of a guys chest .My mother promptly told him it was disgusting and cut him off wanting to hear no more.Needless to say i was hooked and in that day no VCR most movies took 4 to 5 years to be shown on TV and no on in my area had HBO.I did get the Kenner doll and wish I till had it they are worth several hundred dollars now.Finally saw it around '84 I think on VHS .Still my favorite movie of all time.

I have a lot of Merchandising memories of Aliens, more so than the first film. I still have the small lead miniatures that came in small black snappy cases, painted and all, think they were around 2cm's tall? Saved up for weeks to buy a 1:1 scale pulse rifle made from Vac form and resin, then another month to figure out how to build the damn thing. I bought the Halcyon Drop ship, APC and Alien with Egg base kits and built them up. Also, I managed to find a head set mike of the same make as used in Aliens, even painted it up green to wear with the costume I never managed to complete. Best of all, I remember the Arcade game that was to be found upstairs in Birmingham Airport, played on the one quite a lot.

but who or what is feeding them?? Newt being terrified would surely have taken them into the airducts with her is she was that attached to them................

Maybe they are related to the Mice in Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy??

Not one i've seen before. Will watch the whole thing when I have the time. Nice find, thanks for sharing.

i think it be cool if after prometheus came out on dvd it comes with a documentery of the alien univeres, like if it was actually a real documentry telling us about the xenos and SJs and their origins. Pluse mention a lil of the movie canons in it. It be cool how it could give us some good insight on things in the universe that we may have missed or havent known yet. idk just a thought

Brilliant find - I love the fact that someone has the Jockey ship in their backyard hahaha

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